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Id be interested in some 29er Mainlines.

Billy Madison quotes aside… Cascade gave you a thoughtful response when you first made this allegation in the tech thread and yet you continue to make stuff up with zero proof or clearly articulated engineering reasoning to back it up. It’s very obvious why they have deleted any and all interactions with you.

This guy gets it.

Just to hurt your soul ill share mine: Excellent, does what it's ment to do - Not every shock will suit it and may require a tune change but thats normal. Stumpy evo, norco sight, patrol & sentinel links.

I heard Levy is actually one of the crab people

did you smoke the window insulation again?

It was kind of fun reading this for a while and seeing what everyone thinks. I haven't ridden all high pivot bikes, but I've ridden a good number. Here's my take... The change in weight distribution thing is very real. I find it most obvious whenever I'm transferring weight around on the bike actively, such as lifting the front. It actually drives me crazy having the amount you have to lift change so dramatically throughout travel. Also noticeable cornering in being easier to oversteer. A lot of people tend to unintentionally unweight the front going into corners so that could...

A big question in this thread is if it makes sense to keep the wheelbase the same anyway. If you do that then your CoG will move forwards when going through the travel, which might be a big negative. There's also the problem of one side of the bike's suspension moving more than the other side, so you're not in sync anyway. The biggest benefit is probably something that's predictable and current layout might be more predictable than parallel paths. Plus using rotating links it's nigh on impossible to make a linear axle path (google Chebyshev linkage, Lawwil might be...

This is quite an interesting topic, I've had a couple of high pivot bikes and probably wouldn't buy another... Kinda. I had a norco aurum, which was great I thought. It was always terrible in corners and front end grip was kinda vague. I thought it was a sizing thing perhaps. I then got a norco range and thought this is way better. Could still feel the rearward axle path, but it turned better etc etc. Which led me down a real rabbit hole, I put a wrp link in it which gave fully rearward axle path and dual crown...

What you describe sounds just like super-short chainstay bikes, not necessarily a high pivot. I'm super curious to hear your feedback on that Dreadnaught to verify your theory. LONG RANT INBOUND From my limited experience, it sounds like one of the main benefits of high or mid-high pivot bikes is that the idler pulley on most designs acts like a chainless rear suspension- it is typically tuned to reduce any chain pull and subsequent drag on suspension performance. Its hard to sus out this difference along with the change in axle path. A more rearward axle path will obviously help...