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6/2/2026 1:12pm
I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that...

I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that most of the bikes it will be comparable to also have flex stays.  I'll hold off on asking if it's coil compatible, I don't wanna start that again.  

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I assume it's going to be CBF, so a solid rear triangle.

I'm a moron.  I'm so used to short travel bikes being Flex stay, I completely forgot that the CBF is a completely different suspension design that...

I'm a moron.  I'm so used to short travel bikes being Flex stay, I completely forgot that the CBF is a completely different suspension design that doesn't/can't use a flex stay.  

I’m actually pretty pumped on a short travel bike that’s NOT flex stay. 
Add that the reach is over 510 (finally!) 

And it’s CBF?  And carbon and red? 
Damn that’s a nice bike 

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6/2/2026 1:48pm

I had a pipe dream that Revel was making an ebike named the RE. 

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6/2/2026 2:35pm
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possibly the most technological innovation that's not a rumor ever? solar AI ebikes are here for $1899. create memes on the top-tube mounted display?https://phosgo.com/pages/reserve-product

possibly the most technological innovation that's not a rumor ever? solar AI ebikes are here for $1899. create memes on the top-tube mounted display?

https://phosgo.com/pages/reserve-product

solarAI

I can't tell, is the solar charging intended to be through cells covering the wheel disks? If so, I'm curious how that's going to work out. The collection area (ignoring parts of the bike that shadow a portion of the arrays) is not large, roughly 0.5m^2 for the pair of wheels, minus some coverage losses since square cells fit into an annulus can't give 100% coverage. I'm not sure what cell technology they are using, but assuming something like 20% efficiency, in perfect conditions, mid-day in the long part of the year, with the axles pointed at the sun, you could get something like 90 W. If the bike was propped up on the kickstand, then it would be less than ideal mid-day, so maybe 50 or 60W. So for an 800 Wh battery, you could get maybe 40 to 50% charge in a full day, dusk to dawn. If the cells on each wheel are wired in series as a single array to an MPPT, any shadowing of one cell affects the power output of all cells, so chainstays, seat-stays, fork, kickstand, rotors all detract from charge performance. Seems like it might be useful to charge your phone, but if you're counting on it to get you home after a long ride, good luck. 

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6/2/2026 2:46pm
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I can't tell, is the solar charging intended to be through cells covering the wheel disks? If so, I'm curious how that's going to work out...

I can't tell, is the solar charging intended to be through cells covering the wheel disks? If so, I'm curious how that's going to work out. The collection area (ignoring parts of the bike that shadow a portion of the arrays) is not large, roughly 0.5m^2 for the pair of wheels, minus some coverage losses since square cells fit into an annulus can't give 100% coverage. I'm not sure what cell technology they are using, but assuming something like 20% efficiency, in perfect conditions, mid-day in the long part of the year, with the axles pointed at the sun, you could get something like 90 W. If the bike was propped up on the kickstand, then it would be less than ideal mid-day, so maybe 50 or 60W. So for an 800 Wh battery, you could get maybe 40 to 50% charge in a full day, dusk to dawn. If the cells on each wheel are wired in series as a single array to an MPPT, any shadowing of one cell affects the power output of all cells, so chainstays, seat-stays, fork, kickstand, rotors all detract from charge performance. Seems like it might be useful to charge your phone, but if you're counting on it to get you home after a long ride, good luck. 

The website claims 50 miles of base range with 17 miles per day of solar, so that’s a 34% charge. For the 360Wh battery, 34% is 122Wh. Over the course of an 8 hour day that’s only ~15W of solar. With modern solar tech that honestly sounds conservative to me, as disgusting as this whole webpage is

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6/2/2026 4:00pm
jones007 wrote:
I can't tell, is the solar charging intended to be through cells covering the wheel disks? If so, I'm curious how that's going to work out...

I can't tell, is the solar charging intended to be through cells covering the wheel disks? If so, I'm curious how that's going to work out. The collection area (ignoring parts of the bike that shadow a portion of the arrays) is not large, roughly 0.5m^2 for the pair of wheels, minus some coverage losses since square cells fit into an annulus can't give 100% coverage. I'm not sure what cell technology they are using, but assuming something like 20% efficiency, in perfect conditions, mid-day in the long part of the year, with the axles pointed at the sun, you could get something like 90 W. If the bike was propped up on the kickstand, then it would be less than ideal mid-day, so maybe 50 or 60W. So for an 800 Wh battery, you could get maybe 40 to 50% charge in a full day, dusk to dawn. If the cells on each wheel are wired in series as a single array to an MPPT, any shadowing of one cell affects the power output of all cells, so chainstays, seat-stays, fork, kickstand, rotors all detract from charge performance. Seems like it might be useful to charge your phone, but if you're counting on it to get you home after a long ride, good luck. 

The website claims 50 miles of base range with 17 miles per day of solar, so that’s a 34% charge. For the 360Wh battery, 34% is...

The website claims 50 miles of base range with 17 miles per day of solar, so that’s a 34% charge. For the 360Wh battery, 34% is 122Wh. Over the course of an 8 hour day that’s only ~15W of solar. With modern solar tech that honestly sounds conservative to me, as disgusting as this whole webpage is

I didn't see the Wh capacity of the battery - that's pretty small. Honestly, with the bike sitting upright, probably not aimed toward the sun well, and with partial cell-shadowing, 15W might be about right. Seems about like covering the roof of your EV in the hopes of extending range. Kind of a drop in the bucket. Cell survival on the wheels probably isn't great either. Seems like a wacky idea, but I'm sure plenty of folks will part with their money for it.

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6/2/2026 4:50pm

Man… this forum is screwed. Everything is turning crab, each new product launch is 1.25% better than the shitty unusable last generation, and now we are discussing solar capabilities on an ai bike that will more than likely be a kickstarter scam. The future looks great! 😃

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"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"

FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we get small revisions. 

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6/2/2026 5:18pm
FullSendy wrote:
"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we...

"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"

FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we get small revisions. 

I know I was being sarcastic dick about the industry. 🥴

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Sometimes it is hard to tell given a few takes on here. 

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Man… this forum is screwed. Everything is turning crab, each new product launch is 1.25% better than the shitty unusable last generation, and now we are...

Man… this forum is screwed. Everything is turning crab, each new product launch is 1.25% better than the shitty unusable last generation, and now we are discussing solar capabilities on an ai bike that will more than likely be a kickstarter scam. The future looks great! 😃

Hurts

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6/2/2026 8:35pm
FullSendy wrote:

Sometimes it is hard to tell given a few takes on here. 

Fair enough

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FullSendy wrote:
"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we...

"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"

FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we get small revisions. 

As someone who, for 20+ years, got at least 1 new bike every year, I haven’t purchased a new bike in almost 3 years.  I feel like 90% of bikes in the last 5 or so years have been great.  So much so, that I’m actually considering buying the last gen Norco Optic as my next trail bike.  Coming into 2026 I was convinced I would get a “New” full suspension frame this year.  While I’m sure I’d be happy with the new Tallboy, Reya, or Ranger, it’s hard to justify the $$$$ for a new frame when I can pickup a couple year old bike that, for half the cost, will give me the same amount of enjoyment.  That new Ranger sure is a looker though…

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FullSendy wrote:
"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we...

"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"

FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we get small revisions. 

As someone who, for 20+ years, got at least 1 new bike every year, I haven’t purchased a new bike in almost 3 years.  I feel...

As someone who, for 20+ years, got at least 1 new bike every year, I haven’t purchased a new bike in almost 3 years.  I feel like 90% of bikes in the last 5 or so years have been great.  So much so, that I’m actually considering buying the last gen Norco Optic as my next trail bike.  Coming into 2026 I was convinced I would get a “New” full suspension frame this year.  While I’m sure I’d be happy with the new Tallboy, Reya, or Ranger, it’s hard to justify the $$$$ for a new frame when I can pickup a couple year old bike that, for half the cost, will give me the same amount of enjoyment.  That new Ranger sure is a looker though…

I have a '23 Smuggler and every time I get that "new bike" itch I end up asking myself why? The Smuggler isn't perfect but it's so damn good I can't convince myself a new bike is worth it (and I'm pretty darn good at finding reasons to justify a new bike).

I suspect a lot of folks are in a similar situation...

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I have a '23 Smuggler and every time I get that "new bike" itch I end up asking myself why? The Smuggler isn't perfect but it's...

I have a '23 Smuggler and every time I get that "new bike" itch I end up asking myself why? The Smuggler isn't perfect but it's so damn good I can't convince myself a new bike is worth it (and I'm pretty darn good at finding reasons to justify a new bike).

I suspect a lot of folks are in a similar situation...

No kidding! I sold my Izzo and I’m not really sure why. I still haven’t found anything I want to replace it with. 

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I think it says alot about the bike. 
1. “It absolutely shreds”

2. Horst park bike

3. Dual crown 

4. Air or coil

5. Made for park and sideways landings 

6. Mx wheels

7. Aluminum 


That’s definitely a sweet spot for many riders who buy bikes. Brage destroying a trail burger doesn’t hurt.

 

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Fair to say that’s a fox duh. With a marzo sticker kit duh for the marzo athlete duh that shoulda been on Fox the whole time duh

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FullSendy wrote:
"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we...

"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"

FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we get small revisions. 

As someone who, for 20+ years, got at least 1 new bike every year, I haven’t purchased a new bike in almost 3 years.  I feel...

As someone who, for 20+ years, got at least 1 new bike every year, I haven’t purchased a new bike in almost 3 years.  I feel like 90% of bikes in the last 5 or so years have been great.  So much so, that I’m actually considering buying the last gen Norco Optic as my next trail bike.  Coming into 2026 I was convinced I would get a “New” full suspension frame this year.  While I’m sure I’d be happy with the new Tallboy, Reya, or Ranger, it’s hard to justify the $$$$ for a new frame when I can pickup a couple year old bike that, for half the cost, will give me the same amount of enjoyment.  That new Ranger sure is a looker though…

Same here. Still regret selling my V1 and V2 Megatowers. Now it seems I wont be able to buy one at all! Equally, If I was going back to a Tallboy I'd probably look to find a used gen 5, not go straight for the current Gen 6. Same with my current switch infinity Yeti's, they might not exist anymore. Does £4k plus for a linkage driven frame move me forward massively??

 

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FullSendy wrote:
"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we...

"each new product launch is 1.25% better than the last generation that was also pretty damn good"

FTFY. Sucks, but most stuff is good now, so we get small revisions. 

As someone who, for 20+ years, got at least 1 new bike every year, I haven’t purchased a new bike in almost 3 years.  I feel...

As someone who, for 20+ years, got at least 1 new bike every year, I haven’t purchased a new bike in almost 3 years.  I feel like 90% of bikes in the last 5 or so years have been great.  So much so, that I’m actually considering buying the last gen Norco Optic as my next trail bike.  Coming into 2026 I was convinced I would get a “New” full suspension frame this year.  While I’m sure I’d be happy with the new Tallboy, Reya, or Ranger, it’s hard to justify the $$$$ for a new frame when I can pickup a couple year old bike that, for half the cost, will give me the same amount of enjoyment.  That new Ranger sure is a looker though…

This is my situation too and why I think the industry is still screwed for the foreseeable future. Not only have those of us propping up the industry year after year stopped buying, but we now have a huge back catalog of dirt cheap previously released bikes we want to try. 

If I ditched my dual crown Patrol it would be for the old high pivot Range, not the new Torrent.

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sspomer wrote:
Lenz goes dual 32" - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/lenz-sport-leviathan-32er-cross-country-trail-bike

That’s such a LENZSPORT thing to do. 
And I’m not mad at it. 

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sspomer wrote:
Lenz goes dual 32" - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/lenz-sport-leviathan-32er-cross-country-trail-bike

Maybe I just haven’t noticed before on the other 32” bike pictures, but damn those tires look so close together. 

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This is my situation too and why I think the industry is still screwed for the foreseeable future. Not only have those of us propping up...

This is my situation too and why I think the industry is still screwed for the foreseeable future. Not only have those of us propping up the industry year after year stopped buying, but we now have a huge back catalog of dirt cheap previously released bikes we want to try. 

If I ditched my dual crown Patrol it would be for the old high pivot Range, not the new Torrent.

The problem with the range is norco is backordered on pretty much all small parts. That and its nowhere near as playful as your patrol is. 

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Maybe I just haven’t noticed before on the other 32” bike pictures, but damn those tires look so close together. 

It's because they're using 2005 geo. 

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