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The proto has a very similar rear end to the new Devinci Troy and the Chainsaw. So likely a Devinci...I hope!
On the other hand...Sram crank, Fox fork, TRP Brakes with Sram rotor...i don't know :D
I'm pretty sure every Wilson after 2011ish were mid high pivot were they not? The main pivot was half way up the frame and the chain stay pulled a rotating link to actuate the shock
Correct, but they never released an idler style high pivot. Only prototypes.
Correct. But for the day, I think the Wilson was fairly high pivot. Same as the single pivot Gambler. High pivot for a suspension system without an idler that is.
FWIW, when we mention split pivots and caliper locations and certain locations giving a single pivot layout, that is exactly what the high pivot Sender actually is. With the added complication of multiple links driving the shock, not just the chainstay and a rocker. There's an additional rocker in there akin to Knollys 4x4 system, Norcos DH bike system, etc. So it's actually a linkage driven linkage driven single pivot 😂
The linkages are like crabs in a bucket, climbing all over each to actuate the shock.
Here we go, it had to happen sooner or later... The first ever production full-suspension carbon XC-Bike with 32" wheels.
Read more about it here: https://www.stoll-bikes.com/p32
Geometry table is at the very bottom of the page. Though it seems like Stoll won't tell you the full geometry data unless you're ordering a bike. They've got sizes "Medium" and "Large", although people have done the math for the missing geometry numbers and both sizes are very big. The size recommendations seem a little strange, to say the least.
Spect 5 to 10 years until geometry became sorted. It's the race to be the first to sell that new thing, prototyping is on the hands of the early adopter
What the hell is wrong with these companies? Both Stoll and DirtySixer think they can sell bikes without telling people the geometry. Is this just some kind of rug pull because they don't know what they're doing, and until Trek or Specialized or whoever comes out with a sorted 32inch bike they can trick people into being early adopters with the alure of new-new (be the first on your block!)? This is some fly by night nonsense.
One thing that became almost immediately clear in the relatively short time that I have been reading and participating in bike-related internet forums is that the proportion of posters that are good at math is extremely high. It seems that 1 in 10 is an actual engineer, and the proportion of math-brained folks among the remainder is way higher than the public at large.
As such, holding back geometry information strikes me as misguided because one's efforts are destined to be futile unless they also refuse to release pictures of the product. From the moment the bike is portrayed in side profile, you may get one day before some mathematically inclined internet sleuth derives it all and spills your beans for you.
Thanks for the math award. I don’t even practice so it’s double nice.
We are also very handsome here on the messageboards.
That bike is super dumb looking.
The fact that the front triangle looks like it could almost fit inside of one of the wheels gives it a pretty strange look for sure.
it may not be faster but you’ll find yourself in a lone breakaway every ride
I'm curious to see the development curve on the 32in.. 29 had the interruption of 27.5 and a lot of years trying to make a 29er feel like a 26.. Maybe this time they address what the feel the strengths the 32 are and go at it.. Or, does history repeat itself and we get 30.5 for a minute? Then we end up at 32/30.5 mixed wheels..
Reach: 500mm
Stack: TOP SECRET!!!
Honestly equally secret to Oberrohr for everyone too lazy to use a translator app, myself included.
They won't even let us see their Lenkwinkel.
New Mezzer inbound?
Looks like it might be. Lowers look pretty much the same but the fork crown doesnt
Yeah, the lower casting looks to be the same for sure. The rebound knob is also different from the current version, though, so it will interesting to hear what changes may have been made to the damper.
Sorry, just realized that the contents of that website are, in fact, not available in English.
Now I'm sitting here, having a little laugh thinking about how jarring and discordant that word must sound to anyone who's not used to German pronounciation.
English: effective top tube length 😊
German: OBERROHR 😬😠
Honestly, we're probably all just huge nerds.
Or maybe, the sad reality of it is that cycling in general is such an expensive and elitist sport that it mainly attracts people who are financially quite well off. And in most western countries, academic success is very strongly linked to financial prosperity. Rich people, statistically speaking, still have much better chances in academia and generally much better access to higher education. Therefor it is probably not a coincidence that people who ride bikes seem have above average education.
I'd like to see a venn diagram on this sociology of cycling.
What you are describing is called socioeconomic status.
Stating the obvious here, but once either of the big 2 start shipping a production 32" fork is when I expect things to start really taking off.
(We'll need tires too, but I don't know how long it takes to bring a new size to production; anyone have any insight?)
Probably?
“You think you hate it now, wait ‘till you ride it!”
Keep riding good bieks, or be the first to ride new bad bike? Decisions decisions
6D partners with HIT (Head Impact Trauma Limited) for crash data recovery - PR here
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/6d-helmets-partners-hit-advance-impact-measurement-brain-fatigue-and-concussion-detection
and giant just dropped 3 STP bikes - 20 and 24 are grom hardtails with gears, 26 is a dirt jumper. $790, $1,250 and $1,950 for USD pricing.
Tenet clipless pedals are here - the Osiris - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/introducing-osiris-clipless-pedal-tenet-components
Okay, so we have carcinization for bike suspension, but is there a similar process for clip-in pedals where they all eventually use some variation of Shimano cleats? Spudification?