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Im sorry. I said Santa Cruz before and I dont know why. The frame reminds me of an Intense. The cable routing port, the beveling to to the bearing on the upper link. Sharp thin shock mounting frame tabs. Also makes the components make a little more sense. At least to me.
A bike that looks so production-ready, yet it does not have an in-frame storage, should give a clear clue what company is behind it.
That was my first thought as well.
Yeti is probably sick of warrantying clapped out SI sliders that wear despite regular maintenance.
I like the idea of the 6 bar design and getting away from the SI sliders and grease maintenance ritual. But the sheer number of additional bearings (~8!) that are required for the 6 bar, plus the low deflection angles makes me think it will be a notchy bearing generator if not kept up with.
The current SI platform already needed the central pivot and main upper rocker bearings to be spun regularly to keep running smooth. Can't imagine keeping 10+ running smooth in regular wet conditions.
Is replacing 8 more bearings when you already have your linkage blown apart really that big of a deal? I don’t ride a crazy amount, but I do ride a good amount, and I do not replace my bearings more than every other year. Most of the time they are still fine. Unless you’re in the top 0.1% of riders I don’t see any reason why you should be replacing bearings more than once a year. So maybe 8 more bearings to change might take another 2 hours if you’re severely bad at using tools. I spend more than 2 hours a week on this silly page lol.
I’m not advocating for 6 bar bikes, but it makes me scream inside when people won’t stop complaining about some imaginary bearing nightmare that doesn’t really exist.
As a (retired ish) bike mechanic, I'd say it can be quite the hassle. Really depends on how well is the frame made more than most. There are brands I'd maybe turn away if they had 20 bearings needing replacement.
Now we don't all replace bearings all the time, but things add up and then you're servicing suspension, tensioning wheels, keeping up with consumables and next thing you know you need a massive job at the bike shop to get some bearings in, some may be seized in their slots..
It's obviously about balance, and maybe less of an issue of you don't live in a place with 7 continuous months of heavy rain. But shortly after I got into riding a lot, I started strongly prioritizing making my bikes as maintenance-free as possible. Which is either coming from durability or ease of service..ideally both.
Anyone have any updates on the release timing for the new Banshee Titan? And feature speculation?
BotD made me think of it.
I'm talking about maintaining the bearings by fully rotating/spinning them to redistribute the grease and prevent them from seizing. Often times in links that see only a few degrees of rotation the bearings will wear into a spot where they move freely in the used range, but there is a wall of resistance past that. Giving them periodic rotation will increase the life.
I personally had my various Yetis seize the bearings within the SI shuttle and doing the ole grease n' spin got them back without needing replacement.
Regarding this 'too many bearings' thing I'm imagining those infomercials where the actor over dramatically struggles with something and loses conttol but its bearings and they go flying all over the place.
20 bearings is only if you're going double row in some locations and use a trunnion shock. If I wasn't designing a bike around existing hardware (broke student problems) I'd knock off the trunnion shock in favour of conventional and replace the double row bearings with a beefier captive single row, which reduces the total to a slightly less insane 14.
I've posted a story last week how Keith's personal prototype was stolen, he said only the swingarm is new to test some things, from the photo it didnt really look any different. There were some pictures from some time ago where it looked like it could house UDH. Thats what I remember. I always had the idea Banshee would not release a new bike without serious improvement and with present generation its just hard to do that, their bikes are just as relevant today as they were when released in 2019...
It depends on the bike. Some bikes are easier to change bearings than others, some bikes wear bearings out faster. If you have a bike that is both difficult to change bearings on and eats bearings it would get old fast.
Some time ago they said on FB that they are not going to release anything new in 2026. The pie for Raaw will just grow bigger…
why do they need to release something new? geometry is still spot on, the only thing i would change is shock orientation to increase dropper insertion. oh and a motor version of course
Increase dropper insertion.
Once this has been modernized they'll be on my shortlist!
What I don't fully understand is why we aren't seeing needle bearings in frame picot locations yet? Works well for mx bikes and the forces and moisture seen there are way worse then mtb. Solid lube bearings should atleast become standard. I threw some solid lubes in a linkage spot on an old bike I used to kill constantly. Immediately went a couple years without needing replaced.
Two big reasons: available width for packaging and side loads.
On a moto the linkage doesn’t get side loaded, the swingarm mounts directly to the frame.
I think I’m going for my next bike get it repainted a plain color and buy one of those diapers and ride it everywhere so people will think it’s a prototype 😂
re: bearings
In my 30 years of riding mountain bikes, I've owned 40+ full suspension bikes, and not once did I ever consider bearing replacement ease/difficulty when considering a frame. I know we're a bunch of nerds on here, but do some of you actually consider that when looking at a bike?
are tehre any new fenders for the podium in the making? i saw a picture somewhere about a fender attached to the carbon guards, maybe someone has a photo?
Maybe if Saudis buy it the riders can get some LIV golf kind of money.
Ok back to reality 😂
We are getting way into the weeds here but also if most mtb guys have enough trouble with cartridge bearings then I think their head would literally explode when faced with the task of changing a needle bearing in a moto style linkage 🤣
Push own a patent for fenders that extend up from the stanchion guards and sit on top of the tyre (exactly like a "normal" fender, just attached to the stanchion guards either side) that is meaning companies aren't bringing them to market in fear of cease and desist notices.
You can get them from certain people who will 3D print this design, but they aren't widely available.
It's uncertain if Push' patent will prevent any of these style of guards making it to market, it just hasn't been tested yet.
Supposedly coming soon from Fox...
https://ridefox.com/products/fox-fork-mud-guard?variant=47533615907040
https://www.instagram.com/stories/visionvelo.eu/3767806146599019732?utm…
I just took delivery of a Titan v3.2 last week. My legs are long enough to use a 210mm One Up post in my size XL frame and the thing rips. UDH compatibility is about the only thing missing IMO and that's easily upgraded with the modular dropouts.
Interesting. I figured that was a DVO thing but maybe they didn't patten it? The OG Emerald had a great looking stanchion guard/arch
Tell me you never owned an Ibis for more than 12 months without telling me you never owned an Ibis for more than 12 months.
You got a new frame every year sometimes sooner so you probably never had to even think about frame bearings going bad. No shade! I've done the same for the past 8 years and never once thought about changing bearings. (including 2 Ripmos and a Stumpy Evo with 3,000mi on it). Does worrying about bearings come from trauma of old Santa Cruz's eating them?
That was a DIY fender made by a rider, don't think it is intended to ever be an actual product.