I’m not sure that Norco is actually dropping the Optic, but I do know that it didn’t sell as well as the Sight. The average customer just doesn’t understand a high pivot, small travel bike. As an Optic owner, I can tell you that it’s the most fun trail bike I’ve ever ridden, but the majority of riders are unwilling to give if a chance since they equate high pivot with big, heavy bikes. Too bad—it’s an awesome bike, one I won’t give up anytime soon.
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and Topaz products. In the past the only way to get this was buying GasGas E-Bikes.
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and...
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and Topaz products. In the past the only way to get this was buying GasGas E-Bikes.
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and...
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and Topaz products. In the past the only way to get this was buying GasGas E-Bikes.
They are selling the leftover OE spec product from their GasGas partnership.
Don't replace with a Sight, supplement!Both the Range and carbon Fluid went away. With the Optic going away it's becoming a very skinny premium lineup. Per...
Don't replace with a Sight, supplement!
Both the Range and carbon Fluid went away. With the Optic going away it's becoming a very skinny premium lineup. Per Majso's point, the Sight and Optic were so darn close that I almost wonder if they could have come up with a 140mm rear version of the Sight on the same FT/RT and called in their high pivot trail bike with a little bit lighter builds.
Running the Optic and Fluid side by side in carbon was always an odd choice, there was going to be a lot of overlap even if the bikes were tuned different by default. I can totally see the platforms being combined into something a little bit more focused, but I can't see Norco exiting the segment entirely. Maybe they'll bring back the Shinobi nameplate? Hahaha.
It’s actually been my plan for a long time to supplement with an Optic. If I decide to turn the Range into a downhill bike, I’ll probably get a Sight with a trail build instead. Decisions decisions…
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and...
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and Topaz products. In the past the only way to get this was buying GasGas E-Bikes.
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How did they publish this and expect to take anyone's money?
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How...
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How did they publish this and expect to take anyone's money?
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How...
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How did they publish this and expect to take anyone's money?
Hey at least they got the number of the fingers right. I am also very interested in the Flea oil.
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How...
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How did they publish this and expect to take anyone's money?
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Saw a bike with bilstein stickers today. Was a single crown and an air shock that kinda looks like an older x2 can but with two very big dials. Couldn’t get a pic
I'm interested to see how this new SRAM DH T-Type derailleur is mounted. The Frameworks bikes are UDH, but the Commencal Supreme V5 has a native chainstay adjustment. Maybe Commencal put together a new seatstay specifically for this... who knows.
Will we expect DH frames to eventually go to a UDH mount like everything else or is there more than one mounting system for this new derailleur? Seems like something big for SRAM to be dropping before DH bikes even go UDH more commonly. Maybe it won't even go into production... I guess only time will tell.
I'm interested to see how this new SRAM DH T-Type derailleur is mounted. The Frameworks bikes are UDH, but the Commencal Supreme V5 has a native...
I'm interested to see how this new SRAM DH T-Type derailleur is mounted. The Frameworks bikes are UDH, but the Commencal Supreme V5 has a native chainstay adjustment. Maybe Commencal put together a new seatstay specifically for this... who knows.
Will we expect DH frames to eventually go to a UDH mount like everything else or is there more than one mounting system for this new derailleur? Seems like something big for SRAM to be dropping before DH bikes even go UDH more commonly. Maybe it won't even go into production... I guess only time will tell.
begrudgingly, i've started a 32-inch wheel forum thread. not because i like the idea of them but because at crankworx, way too many people i talked to said they're not going away.
Looking forward to vehemently redirecting anything and everything to do with 32 in wheels to that thread in the future, despite all things 32 inch wheel still constituting rumours and innovation at this point.
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.
Maybe its just me, but it feels like the D1 Boxxer only came out yesterday?! I've been putting together a mini midlife crisis DH bike, finally got my self a V10.7 frameset and just a few weeks back ordered a new D1 Boxxer ultimate for the build. First time I've spent £1600 on a fork... and its already out dated 😹
But... I'm reeeallllly wanting to know what is being hidden beside the disc mount?? Logic suggests its likely something to do with the air spring since its on the left leg, but maybe not? Usually when brands cover up proto frames to build hype, it kinda makes me cringe - like whatever man we all know its just a daft new linkage - I don't care much.
But I admit that they really got me wondering whats under that cover on the new Zeb and Boxxer - WTF IS IT!?
I'm annoyed at my self because I know this exactly the stupid hype that they want.
But again, cant believe the D1 is gonna be old soon
Wonder if we may see a 29 front 32 rear for a medium height xc rider considering the negative rise stem and high seat post you often see on 29er set ups.
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.Maybe its just me, but it feels like...
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.
Maybe its just me, but it feels like the D1 Boxxer only came out yesterday?! I've been putting together a mini midlife crisis DH bike, finally got my self a V10.7 frameset and just a few weeks back ordered a new D1 Boxxer ultimate for the build. First time I've spent £1600 on a fork... and its already out dated 😹
But... I'm reeeallllly wanting to know what is being hidden beside the disc mount?? Logic suggests its likely something to do with the air spring since its on the left leg, but maybe not? Usually when brands cover up proto frames to build hype, it kinda makes me cringe - like whatever man we all know its just a daft new linkage - I don't care much.
But I admit that they really got me wondering whats under that cover on the new Zeb and Boxxer - WTF IS IT!?
I'm annoyed at my self because I know this exactly the stupid hype that they want.
But again, cant believe the D1 is gonna be old soon
I'd bet it's SRAM no doubt putting their twist on another Vorsprung product (Secus)
Why innovate when you can copy a small manufacturers homework.
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.Maybe its just me, but it feels like...
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.
Maybe its just me, but it feels like the D1 Boxxer only came out yesterday?! I've been putting together a mini midlife crisis DH bike, finally got my self a V10.7 frameset and just a few weeks back ordered a new D1 Boxxer ultimate for the build. First time I've spent £1600 on a fork... and its already out dated 😹
But... I'm reeeallllly wanting to know what is being hidden beside the disc mount?? Logic suggests its likely something to do with the air spring since its on the left leg, but maybe not? Usually when brands cover up proto frames to build hype, it kinda makes me cringe - like whatever man we all know its just a daft new linkage - I don't care much.
But I admit that they really got me wondering whats under that cover on the new Zeb and Boxxer - WTF IS IT!?
I'm annoyed at my self because I know this exactly the stupid hype that they want.
But again, cant believe the D1 is gonna be old soon
I'd bet it's SRAM no doubt putting their twist on another Vorsprung product (Secus)
Why innovate when you can copy a small manufacturers homework.
yeah something airspring related seems most logical - kinda looks like the form factor might be too small for something like Secus though? But I agree that its most likely someting similar to Secus
Theres patents shown on the other site from a couple years back suggesting a shockwiz could be integrated into the fork leg - but shockwiz seemed a bit shit, I never tried it but a friend who did said it seemed to give suggested settings that didnt make much sense or didnt make the fork/shock feel much better. So not sure they'd put much effort to bring that into production.
Obvs some sort of new flight attendant or axs related gubbins is a possibility.
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.Maybe its just me, but it feels like...
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.
Maybe its just me, but it feels like the D1 Boxxer only came out yesterday?! I've been putting together a mini midlife crisis DH bike, finally got my self a V10.7 frameset and just a few weeks back ordered a new D1 Boxxer ultimate for the build. First time I've spent £1600 on a fork... and its already out dated 😹
But... I'm reeeallllly wanting to know what is being hidden beside the disc mount?? Logic suggests its likely something to do with the air spring since its on the left leg, but maybe not? Usually when brands cover up proto frames to build hype, it kinda makes me cringe - like whatever man we all know its just a daft new linkage - I don't care much.
But I admit that they really got me wondering whats under that cover on the new Zeb and Boxxer - WTF IS IT!?
I'm annoyed at my self because I know this exactly the stupid hype that they want.
But again, cant believe the D1 is gonna be old soon
yeah something airspring related seems most logical - kinda looks like the form factor might be too small for something like Secus though? But I agree...
yeah something airspring related seems most logical - kinda looks like the form factor might be too small for something like Secus though? But I agree that its most likely someting similar to Secus
Theres patents shown on the other site from a couple years back suggesting a shockwiz could be integrated into the fork leg - but shockwiz seemed a bit shit, I never tried it but a friend who did said it seemed to give suggested settings that didnt make much sense or didnt make the fork/shock feel much better. So not sure they'd put much effort to bring that into production.
Obvs some sort of new flight attendant or axs related gubbins is a possibility.
Shockwiz can be a bit shit, but it can also be quite good. I'm very surprised that it doesn't receive frequent firmware updates to improve the calculations.
The irony of the current Shockwiz is that only people who are already interested, and thus might already have somewhat well adjusted suspension will have taken the time and spent the money to use it. Those people might also have developed preferences for non-algorithmically-optimal suspension.
Most riders, if they even know that there are knobs on their shocks, have terribly set up suspension and no interest in spending time adjusting it or learning how it operates.
For most riders if an integrated Shockwiz system only asked them to over inflate their suspension - and then took its measurements, adjusted it's clickers, and bled some pressure until a neutral result was achieved it would almost certainly be an improvement.
Of course you'd need a "pro-mode" where personal preference can be accounted for to market this as an expert feature. I'm sure having a bike learn a race course on practice runs until a race-ready green light illuminated would be reassuring to athletes who have shock gurus to turn their dials for them. If I were Sram I'd trademark the terms "A.I. Jordi" and "Jordi La Fourche".
I’m not sure that Norco is actually dropping the Optic, but I do know that it didn’t sell as well as the Sight. The average customer just doesn’t understand a high pivot, small travel bike. As an Optic owner, I can tell you that it’s the most fun trail bike I’ve ever ridden, but the majority of riders are unwilling to give if a chance since they equate high pivot with big, heavy bikes. Too bad—it’s an awesome bike, one I won’t give up anytime soon.
DVO has some excited news today the exclusive Cone Valve technology from WP Suspension is now widely available for consumers comes stock on their Jade,Onyx and Topaz products. In the past the only way to get this was buying GasGas E-Bikes.
Has anybody here ridden this?
They are selling the leftover OE spec product from their GasGas partnership.
It’s actually been my plan for a long time to supplement with an Optic. If I decide to turn the Range into a downhill bike, I’ll probably get a Sight with a trail build instead. Decisions decisions…
And the shocks only come in 205 mm trunion mount (I think it's 65 mm stroke).
We don’t need a new Fox 40. I am much more interested in that new tire however….
New Fox x Trek ShakeWeight™ Thrushaft™ Reaktiv™ DRCV™ shock coming? Or AI slop employed by a service center too lazy to take their own shots? How did they publish this and expect to take anyone's money?
Name and shame them!!!
Hey at least they got the number of the fingers right. I am also very interested in the Flea oil.
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Saw a bike with bilstein stickers today. Was a single crown and an air shock that kinda looks like an older x2 can but with two very big dials. Couldn’t get a pic
T-Type DH pics are up on PB, looks to be on a Frameworks bike?
I'm interested to see how this new SRAM DH T-Type derailleur is mounted. The Frameworks bikes are UDH, but the Commencal Supreme V5 has a native chainstay adjustment. Maybe Commencal put together a new seatstay specifically for this... who knows.
https://www.commencal.com/us/en/landing-reglages-supreme-dh-v5.html
Will we expect DH frames to eventually go to a UDH mount like everything else or is there more than one mounting system for this new derailleur? Seems like something big for SRAM to be dropping before DH bikes even go UDH more commonly. Maybe it won't even go into production... I guess only time will tell.
They've already done it
Whoops, I didn't even notice the color difference. It's definitely a new seatstay so that answers that. Thanks.
Yes thanks for the pic!
It’s from the red site, spotted article from the spring. I guess you just confirmed it as blistein. There was a coil version too, unsure about fork.
begrudgingly, i've started a 32-inch wheel forum thread. not because i like the idea of them but because at crankworx, way too many people i talked to said they're not going away.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/32-inch-wheels-and-mountain-bikes
Looking forward to vehemently redirecting anything and everything to do with 32 in wheels to that thread in the future, despite all things 32 inch wheel still constituting rumours and innovation at this point.
I contend 32" wheels are no longer a rumor as they're a real thing in existence nor an innovation as it's nothing more than a bigger circle.
aw man i'm so bummed that there is already a next gen Boxxer being spotted out in the wild.
Maybe its just me, but it feels like the D1 Boxxer only came out yesterday?! I've been putting together a mini midlife crisis DH bike, finally got my self a V10.7 frameset and just a few weeks back ordered a new D1 Boxxer ultimate for the build. First time I've spent £1600 on a fork... and its already out dated 😹
But... I'm reeeallllly wanting to know what is being hidden beside the disc mount?? Logic suggests its likely something to do with the air spring since its on the left leg, but maybe not?
Usually when brands cover up proto frames to build hype, it kinda makes me cringe - like whatever man we all know its just a daft new linkage - I don't care much.
But I admit that they really got me wondering whats under that cover on the new Zeb and Boxxer - WTF IS IT!?
I'm annoyed at my self because I know this exactly the stupid hype that they want.
But again, cant believe the D1 is gonna be old soon
Wonder if we may see a 29 front 32 rear for a medium height xc rider considering the negative rise stem and high seat post you often see on 29er set ups.
I'd bet it's SRAM no doubt putting their twist on another Vorsprung product (Secus)
Why innovate when you can copy a small manufacturers homework.
yeah something airspring related seems most logical - kinda looks like the form factor might be too small for something like Secus though? But I agree that its most likely someting similar to Secus
Theres patents shown on the other site from a couple years back suggesting a shockwiz could be integrated into the fork leg - but shockwiz seemed a bit shit, I never tried it but a friend who did said it seemed to give suggested settings that didnt make much sense or didnt make the fork/shock feel much better. So not sure they'd put much effort to bring that into production.
Obvs some sort of new flight attendant or axs related gubbins is a possibility.
New Boxxer has integrated Ochain in the air spring.
Some cool parts on Greg Minnaar Norco. Stills from @LoamWolf IG video
Shockwiz can be a bit shit, but it can also be quite good. I'm very surprised that it doesn't receive frequent firmware updates to improve the calculations.
The irony of the current Shockwiz is that only people who are already interested, and thus might already have somewhat well adjusted suspension will have taken the time and spent the money to use it. Those people might also have developed preferences for non-algorithmically-optimal suspension.
Most riders, if they even know that there are knobs on their shocks, have terribly set up suspension and no interest in spending time adjusting it or learning how it operates.
For most riders if an integrated Shockwiz system only asked them to over inflate their suspension - and then took its measurements, adjusted it's clickers, and bled some pressure until a neutral result was achieved it would almost certainly be an improvement.
Of course you'd need a "pro-mode" where personal preference can be accounted for to market this as an expert feature. I'm sure having a bike learn a race course on practice runs until a race-ready green light illuminated would be reassuring to athletes who have shock gurus to turn their dials for them. If I were Sram I'd trademark the terms "A.I. Jordi" and "Jordi La Fourche".
HOW IS SHIMANO STILL ON 200MM ROTORS?!?!?!?!