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He's definitely off the track and must be disqualified, no matter how harsh that is.
Looks like he did not realize he was going off track because the line around the pole was worn in during practice. If you check out any GoPro videos on YT you'll see it looks like there is a chicken line. Let's see if anything happens before tomorrow morning.
Are you sure they are track markers and not indicating the jump take off ? They protrude significantly less that the typical course markers.
They are track markers. No doubt about that. Every other rider went inside it, over the jump and therefore couldn’t pedal. AP went outside and was able to pedal and gained an advantage. He should be DQd. Imagine what Matt Walker is thinking, being less than 0.1s back. Also if AP finishes on the podium tomorrow, should he even be there? Could it be protested?
Maybe it’s an enduro-style ‘French line’.
EDR Race recap is live.
Looking at the track in the second screen shot it doesn't look like he's the only one to have taken that line. In the first screen shot the closest marker is pretty wide compared to the one on the jump, I'm wondering if there's a b line, maybe a pole is missing?
Is the live timing arch the outer most marker in this case? Regardless, it’s anything but obvious or straight-forward without tape.
https://youtu.be/p-E54cN2PbM?si=kuDU1Xgk43roJwby&t=674
Carlson states that it is the B line but the course markings are vague.
Agreed unfortunately. If that fits the rule book. Side note/soapbox to complain about Rick’s commentary. He doesnt talk about the riders, he just podcasts random crap while people are riding. Rob, Elliot and Aaron talked about the riders, results elsewhere, history, and other random facts. It’s like they did research and Rick, not so much.
The Q2 coverage on YouTube was an unexpected surprise. Looked like they had a ton of cameras on course. Rick and Josh did a great job, definitely helped to capture the drama and tension. Editing could have been better, but I guess it's all part of their learning curve and there was definitely a lot going on.
What would be great is if they did a post quali walk to capture the ins and outs, and reasons for. Who was unlucky, who suffered mechanicals, who was ill, and perhaps who underperformed. As well as who knocked it out of the park of course. They could take some cues from Ted's Notebook in F1.
awesome, thank you for the clarification! crazy that the same marker could be used to dictate multiple items on course (warning for a jump edge or the outside of the actual track).
that’s the main issue I have with eso/wb. They are half assing the discipline that brought them to where they are. While greatly increasing the costs to the disciplines they took over with extremely mute gains. And it isn’t a money issue. Lord knows there are so many people who will take a pay cut or work for free to make these things happen. But it seems that eso is gonna ask that of everyone else while saying fuck you pay me even if there ain’t anything to show for it.
I think the thing that really sealed the deal for me is when chris ball tried to take some credit for e-bike sales with e-ews which no longer exists.
Dude taxed the industry, delivered a subpar product no one cared about, and had the gumption to say hey we helped you sell bikes.
Its just pure lunacy. And there are plenty of people who can be far better keepers of the sport.
Another jump further up the track is marked the same. B line to the side of the jump with pole markers on each side of the lip.
On this one its a lot more clear the B line is still in.
oh how the turntables
jk thought the same but saw another article that spoiled the reality for me. shame on WB/UCI/whoever for marking the course like that, worse than Bearman's red flag quali lap confusing light FIA dropped ball today
In other news, anyone got any shots of the orbea sans bikpacking bag?
Of course its in the tech rumors thread
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/2020-MTB-Tech-rumors-and-inno…
Looking at the men’s start list for tomorrow, we have 11 prototype or unreleased bikes, 6 V10s, and 4 Supremes. Kinda interesting.
Elite women results are gnarly!
And as expected: cranking the heat only created SuperDuperBruni. Bring back protection and hope he gets sleepy, the man lives on pressure.
I would like to all the qualifying but this’ll do. Carlson and Ric are fine. Vergier is a cat on a muddy tightrope. Dylan Maples went ham.
The men’s final start list looks like last year and the years before it: the fastest mofos are there.
Hyped for finals.
Canyon bikes too, they just released their new DH bike a few days ago.
Rider wise in men's finals... 2 privateers (no team listed), 3 from non-world series teams.
5 world series teams (Pivot, MS-Racing, Frameworks, Atherton, AON) with no men in finals.
3 of those (Frameworks, AON and MS-Racing) have 1 woman in finals.
I’d like a written apology…
Few riders from 2024 protected list feeling the pinch from no protection already.
Looked like Reece Wilson was struggling with the vision, maybe with that mud guard sitting so far off the tire. the belt drive bikes looking bogged down with the mud
EDR race recap:
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UCI Enduro World Cup in Bielsko-Biała: Lukasik masterclass secures victory in front of home fans. Hoskins win after Ricther tumble.
Slawomir Lukasik (Yeti / Fox Factory Team) and Elly Hoskin secured their first Elite wins in the second round of the UCI Enduro World Cup at the Enduro Trails of Bielsko-Biała (Poland). Lukasik was dominant throughout the five stages of the Men's race, while it was a more dramatic affair in the Women’s race as Hoskin claimed victory after Raphaela Richter crashed out.
LUKASIK DAZZLES ON HOME TURF
Lukasik made an early statement of intent, being fastest on stage one. The Polish rider posted a time of 4:30.014 - and he never relinquished his advantage. The Yeti / Fox Factory Team rider finished over three seconds ahead of Gregory Callaghan on stage one.
Plenty of eyes were on Daniel Booker who went into the second race of the season off the back of a win in the opening event at Pietra Ligure. He came from behind to secure victory in Italy, but there was never any sign of a repeat in Poland after he came home in fifth on the first stage of Cygan, 6.312 seconds behind Lukasik.
In a show of strength, Lukasik was quickest on stage two. On the Dziabar trail, which had the largest vertical drop at 485m, he clocked a time of 6:27.456. Louis Jeandel (Lapierre Gravity Collective) was second on the stage, 1.519 behind Lukasik, and his run was enough to catapult him up from third to second after two stages.
Booker lost further ground and dropped to 11th after two stages, over 22 seconds adrift of Lukasik, while Callaghan went from second to fourth - with Jack Moir (YT Mob) climbing to third.
Lukasik, who was narrowly beaten into second in the opening race of the season, extended his advantage by securing first place on stage three, albeit by only 0.511 from Marco Osborne of the United States. Jeandel retained second place overall but saw his deficit increase to over 11 seconds, while Callaghan returned to the top three - 11.439 behind the leader. It was another disappointing stage for Booker, who came home in 13th on the Debowiec trail to drop over 30 seconds behind Lukasik in 11th.
Stage four did not go to Lukasik as he was overshadowed by Moir, who took the top spot on the DH+ trail with a time of 3:23.138. Lukasik took 14th on the stage, 8.332 behind Moir, and it left him with an advantage of 4.846 over Callaghan going into the final leg.
Any thoughts of Lukasik cracking on Stary Zielony were quickly snuffed out, as he produced a strong performance to take second on the stage, with Moir again topping the timing sheets.
Lukasik’s overall time of 23:26.591 was enough for victory over Moir by 6.040, with Callaghan completing the podium in third.
It was an afternoon to forget for last week’s winner, as Booker finished in 95th.
Race winner Lukasik said: “It was crazy. I still can’t believe. It was a really stressful day, but finally I got the win. It was a great day, but a really stressful one. The home crowd was so crazy. I am so stoked.”
HOSKINS SHINES AS RICHTER SUFFERS MISFORTUNE
There was drama in the Women’s UCI Enduro World Cup race, as Raphaela Richter crashed out from the lead going into the final leg which allowed Hoskin to take her first race win.
Germany’s Richter won the first stage and followed that up in the fourth, but her hopes of victory were dashed as she came down with what was reported to be a dislocated shoulder. Richter was locked in a tense battle with Hoskin for the top spot, but the German’s departure allowed the Canadian to coast home.
Ella Conolly of Great Britain took the fifth stage in a time of 4:40.328, which was narrowly ahead of Hoskin. Despite missing out on the fifth stage, Hoskin had the final say as her combined time of 26:46.980 was good enough for the race win by a comfortable margin of over 45 seconds from Conolly.
Morgane Charre (Pivot Factory Racing) took third place, 51.854 off the winner. No other rider got within a minute of Hoskin.
Race winner Hoskin said: “It was really fun day out there, really mucky and slippery. There was no snow, which was a little bit different from practice, but I managed to enjoy it and I think people had a lot of fun out there. I certainly did.”
JUNIOR ACTION AND ENDURO OPEN
Tommy Bougon led home a one-two for France in the Men’s Junior UCI Enduro Enduro World Cup. Bougon was never out of the top four at any stage on the course and found pace on the run for home as he clocked a winning time of 25:17.223. Last week’s winner Melvin Almueis took second, 2.393 behind Bougon, while third went to New Zealand’s Cooper Millwood.
Victory in the Junior Women’s event went to Slovenian talent Nezka Libnik, who came home in a time of 29:08.568. Lacey Adams, from Australia, was second in a time of 29:40.007, with American Chloe Bear in third.
A total of 115 riders took part in the Enduro Open event, testing their fitness, racing skills, and on-the-fly bike fixes on the Enduro Trails of Bielsko-Biała—the same weekend and terrain as the UCI Enduro World Cup. The event wasn’t limited to Enduro bikes, with dedicated E-enduro categories that pushed both riders and their battery-assisted machines to the limit.
Here the B line is clearly marked by a marker on the outside. But if he wasn't DQed yet it means they decided he was within track boundaries.
LIVE: Junior Women UCI DH World Cup, Bielsko-Biala - 11:30 CET (5:30am EST, 2:30am PST):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpkRfDQkg2U
LIVE: Junior Men UCI DH World Cup, Bielsko-Biala - 12:00 CET (6:00am EST, 3:00am PST):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ZT1VN784I
Is Neko our new commentator?
JUNIOR RESULTS: https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/results-bielsko-biala-junior-dh-world-cup-final
I'm not mad at this. I like Charlie Murray presenting too. We have TNT included on our virgin TV package so I'm not having to pay for discovery plus anymore. If they broadcast Q1 and Q2 live I will be a very happy man.
I’ve never seen anything like this, why didn’t they let Hattie rerun the race? 🤔
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