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Industry nine teasing something? I wonder what it is.

Industry nine teasing something? I wonder what it is. IMG 0692 0

Well I can only guess that they are hyping in an extra dramatic manner because they probably redesigned their stem and then realized it still looks like every other stem out there… just a guess. 

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Onawalk wrote:
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Fuck your seals.

Sincerely,

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How so? Won't those allow dirt and mud that would normally get stuck on the back of the fork arch to be able to push through rather than building up as much on your seals?

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2/26/2025 7:43am
Onawalk wrote:
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Fuck your seals.

Sincerely,

Fox

Looks like Fox is looking to move to 5 hour service intervals. 

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2/26/2025 8:01am
OneUp releasing a revised contact plate for their new Clip Pedal. On the one hand, good on them for addressing an issue quickly. On the other...

OneUp releasing a revised contact plate for their new Clip Pedal. On the one hand, good on them for addressing an issue quickly. On the other hand... really seems like something that should have been caught before the product launch. 

More details from OneUp:

At OneUp, we are committed to providing the best possible products and customer service for our riders. As part of this, we are issuing a product improvement and running change notice for our recently introduced Clip Pedals.

We have received information from our customers that in rare and specific conditions, certain riders may experience difficulty unclipping from the pedal. Whether a rider experiences this issue depends on a combination of several variables, including the type of shoe, the brand of cleat, cleat position and technique. Many riders will never experience this issue. Nevertheless, we have developed an improvement to eliminate the potential for this issue and ensure the best possible performance.

The improvement involves swapping out the rear binding plates on each side of the pedal body, just in front of the binding mechanism. The updated rear binding plates improve the smoothness of unclipping regardless of the shoe, the brand of cleat, cleat position, or technique. Installation of the new plates is a quick and easy process.

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Accordingly, we are offering all customers the opportunity to receive a kit to install the improved binding plates or to return their Clip Pedals to OneUp for installation of the improved binding plates by OneUp, at their option.

We expect to have improvement kits available in approximately 6 – 8 weeks from the  date of this notice.

They also have a step-by-step replacement instruction on their site HERE 

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Onawalk wrote:
foxfox1

Fuck your seals.

Sincerely,

Fox

Simcik wrote:
How so? Won't those allow dirt and mud that would normally get stuck on the back of the fork arch to be able to push through...

How so? Won't those allow dirt and mud that would normally get stuck on the back of the fork arch to be able to push through rather than building up as much on your seals?

I can see both. it also directly exposes your seals in the front. 

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not defending one way or another, but here's a bike in the middle of the muddy race from last year (loudenvielle). not much in the way of grime on the front of the fork. 

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Manitou owners don’t seem to have any issues with the front of their seals being exposed.


 

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Industry nine teasing something? I wonder what it is.

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Maybe a hub that doesn't act like a brake? 

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Industry nine teasing something? I wonder what it is.

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Updated Hydra Hub. Thicker axle with new pawl and drive ring design. Adjustable noise levels. Less drag 

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oghunt wrote:

Updated Hydra Hub. Thicker axle with new pawl and drive ring design. Adjustable noise levels. Less drag 

Adjustable noise levels?!?


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sspomer wrote:
not defending one way or another, but here's a bike in the middle of the muddy race from last year (loudenvielle). not much in the way...

not defending one way or another, but here's a bike in the middle of the muddy race from last year (loudenvielle). not much in the way of grime on the front of the fork. 

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Agree, I don't think its an issue at all, I guess the only issue could be if a rock or something were to get wedged perfectly in a hole and scrape against the stanchions same thing could happen in a normal fork if something falls in behind the arch anways. 

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Having just been shopping them, I find Santa Cruz' model and kit combos confusing and cryptic, such as the: "Santa Cruz Blur 4 C R...

Having just been shopping them, I find Santa Cruz' model and kit combos confusing and cryptic, such as the: "Santa Cruz Blur 4 C R TR" or "Santa Cruz Hightower 4 CC XO AXS RSV" 😆. I'm a big enough dork to know what all that means, but still. I'd be down if brands went back to simply naming models based on groupset, or one additional descriptor at most. Names have definitely gotten longer as brands have had to differentiate between two generations of a model coexisting in their lineups simultaneously with the post-Covid oversupply (See "Stumpjumper 15" or Slash Gen 6").

Code numbers and spec jargon in the product title. This is essentially the car audio industry for as long as I can remember.

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Industry nine teasing something? I wonder what it is.

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oghunt wrote:

Updated Hydra Hub. Thicker axle with new pawl and drive ring design. Adjustable noise levels. Less drag 

I hope it’s compatible stuff with the older one 

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Industry nine teasing something? I wonder what it is.

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oghunt wrote:

Updated Hydra Hub. Thicker axle with new pawl and drive ring design. Adjustable noise levels. Less drag 

Evil96 wrote:

I hope it’s compatible stuff with the older one 

The old one only goes to ten.

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Having just been shopping them, I find Santa Cruz' model and kit combos confusing and cryptic, such as the: "Santa Cruz Blur 4 C R...

Having just been shopping them, I find Santa Cruz' model and kit combos confusing and cryptic, such as the: "Santa Cruz Blur 4 C R TR" or "Santa Cruz Hightower 4 CC XO AXS RSV" 😆. I'm a big enough dork to know what all that means, but still. I'd be down if brands went back to simply naming models based on groupset, or one additional descriptor at most. Names have definitely gotten longer as brands have had to differentiate between two generations of a model coexisting in their lineups simultaneously with the post-Covid oversupply (See "Stumpjumper 15" or Slash Gen 6").

Code numbers and spec jargon in the product title. This is essentially the car audio industry for as long as I can remember.

I’ll take numbers and letters that correspond to anything over “Comp, Expert, Elite, and Pro”


What’s more better, Elite or Expert? 😂

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TimBud wrote:

Manitou owners don’t seem to have any issues with the front of their seals being exposed.


 

I don't often run Manitou, but when I do, the seals and stanchions run noticeably cleaner than forks with the arch at the front. For both mud and dust.

Wouldn't surprise me if having more airflow around the seal and lower part of the exposed stanchion is actually a small improvement.

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2/26/2025 10:56am
TimBud wrote:

Manitou owners don’t seem to have any issues with the front of their seals being exposed.


 

AgrAde wrote:
I don't often run Manitou, but when I do, the seals and stanchions run noticeably cleaner than forks with the arch at the front. For both...

I don't often run Manitou, but when I do, the seals and stanchions run noticeably cleaner than forks with the arch at the front. For both mud and dust.

Wouldn't surprise me if having more airflow around the seal and lower part of the exposed stanchion is actually a small improvement.

It's because most of the dirt is flung from behind by the spinning front tire and the reverse arch blocks the seals from that.

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2/26/2025 11:25am
oghunt wrote:

Updated Hydra Hub. Thicker axle with new pawl and drive ring design. Adjustable noise levels. Less drag 

Adjustable noise levels?!?

Adjustable noise levels?!?


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I was joking with that bit. The rest is accurate 

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2/26/2025 11:46am Edited Date/Time 2/26/2025 11:49am
TimBud wrote:

Manitou owners don’t seem to have any issues with the front of their seals being exposed.


 

AgrAde wrote:
I don't often run Manitou, but when I do, the seals and stanchions run noticeably cleaner than forks with the arch at the front. For both...

I don't often run Manitou, but when I do, the seals and stanchions run noticeably cleaner than forks with the arch at the front. For both mud and dust.

Wouldn't surprise me if having more airflow around the seal and lower part of the exposed stanchion is actually a small improvement.

Suns_PSD wrote:

It's because most of the dirt is flung from behind by the spinning front tire and the reverse arch blocks the seals from that.

That and I think not having dust mill around behind a forward arch. More of it just gets blown away by the airflow.

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2/26/2025 11:58am

260 Nm??😯

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260 Nm??😯

260 Nm??😯

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Sounds like a spec of the rear hub in that context.

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260 Nm??😯

260 Nm??😯

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MrDuck wrote:

Sounds like a spec of the rear hub in that context.

Yeah I think that’s the max torque the hub can withstand, the new motor looks like it’s up 5nm to 90 though.  

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2/26/2025 12:30pm
roost66 wrote:

Looks like 70 for lower end stuff, makes sense.  

Nobble wrote:

Anyone else think that it’s going to be NX/SX quality?

roost66 wrote:

Most likely, unless there’s like 50 too.  

There's gonna be a 70 anbd 90. 70 Similar to NX though if they're willing to put the transmission tagline on it I would hope it's higher quality than NX. 90 I'm betting will use GX Transmission cassette, and have a similar build quality overall to GX mechanical. 

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2/26/2025 12:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2025 12:34pm
Nobble wrote:

Anyone else think that it’s going to be NX/SX quality?

roost66 wrote:

Most likely, unless there’s like 50 too.  

There's gonna be a 70 anbd 90. 70 Similar to NX though if they're willing to put the transmission tagline on it I would hope it's...

There's gonna be a 70 anbd 90. 70 Similar to NX though if they're willing to put the transmission tagline on it I would hope it's higher quality than NX. 90 I'm betting will use GX Transmission cassette, and have a similar build quality overall to GX mechanical. 

Maybe the cheap cassette is all steel, heavy & more robust. Perfect for e-bikes. (not that e-bikes need a 12 speed but that's another topic)

 

Then the bikes can go with the lighter X01 Transmission cassette (and chain) with the new cabled derailleur which will be lighter than any electronic derailleur, and depending on your tastes, shift better too.

 

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260 Nm??😯

260 Nm??😯

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It is a giant ripper. 💪

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Has anyone seen anything of the Porsche E-Bikes yet? I got passed by an E-Bike the other day and at first thought that maybe the person had put a big Porsche sticker on their bike as a joke but at second glance it was actually graphics and the whole bike looked extremely polished, different to any other E-Bike I know of and was kitted out with all sorts of bling parts. Sadly they were too fast to interrogate them or snap a pic but it would seem that Porsche might be pretty close to unveiling something given how 'production quality' the whole bike looked. It had PORSCHE prominently written on the top tube of the bike, horizontal shock layout underneath the top tube (Porsche's current hybrid style E-Bikes have horizontal shocks) with either a Vorsprung or Push shock (reservoir and body was all silver/raw), the motor wasn't particularly quiet and sounded like most other E-Bikes, and the rider looked kitted out like someone that takes riding very seriously... So could have passed as a 'professional test rider' 🤣

Not the most exciting rumor without a pic or anything (and E-Bike related on top of that) but wondering if anyone has seen/heard something yet from Porsche? 

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2/26/2025 12:37pm
roost66 wrote:

Most likely, unless there’s like 50 too.  

There's gonna be a 70 anbd 90. 70 Similar to NX though if they're willing to put the transmission tagline on it I would hope it's...

There's gonna be a 70 anbd 90. 70 Similar to NX though if they're willing to put the transmission tagline on it I would hope it's higher quality than NX. 90 I'm betting will use GX Transmission cassette, and have a similar build quality overall to GX mechanical. 

Suns_PSD wrote:
Maybe the cheap cassette is all steel, heavy & more robust. Perfect for e-bikes. (not that e-bikes need a 12 speed but that's another topic) Then the...

Maybe the cheap cassette is all steel, heavy & more robust. Perfect for e-bikes. (not that e-bikes need a 12 speed but that's another topic)

 

Then the bikes can go with the lighter X01 Transmission cassette (and chain) with the new cabled derailleur which will be lighter than any electronic derailleur, and depending on your tastes, shift better too.

 

Honestly, I'm not a fan of electronic groups (dead horse) so that's It's likely what I'd do. 

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O1D4 wrote:
Has anyone seen anything of the Porsche E-Bikes yet? I got passed by an E-Bike the other day and at first thought that maybe the person...

Has anyone seen anything of the Porsche E-Bikes yet? I got passed by an E-Bike the other day and at first thought that maybe the person had put a big Porsche sticker on their bike as a joke but at second glance it was actually graphics and the whole bike looked extremely polished, different to any other E-Bike I know of and was kitted out with all sorts of bling parts. Sadly they were too fast to interrogate them or snap a pic but it would seem that Porsche might be pretty close to unveiling something given how 'production quality' the whole bike looked. It had PORSCHE prominently written on the top tube of the bike, horizontal shock layout underneath the top tube (Porsche's current hybrid style E-Bikes have horizontal shocks) with either a Vorsprung or Push shock (reservoir and body was all silver/raw), the motor wasn't particularly quiet and sounded like most other E-Bikes, and the rider looked kitted out like someone that takes riding very seriously... So could have passed as a 'professional test rider' 🤣

Not the most exciting rumor without a pic or anything (and E-Bike related on top of that) but wondering if anyone has seen/heard something yet from Porsche? 

Yah, because Porsche owns Fazua, they are releasing a line of e-bikes. Apparently full power.

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2/26/2025 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2025 12:46pm
There's gonna be a 70 anbd 90. 70 Similar to NX though if they're willing to put the transmission tagline on it I would hope it's...

There's gonna be a 70 anbd 90. 70 Similar to NX though if they're willing to put the transmission tagline on it I would hope it's higher quality than NX. 90 I'm betting will use GX Transmission cassette, and have a similar build quality overall to GX mechanical. 

Suns_PSD wrote:
Maybe the cheap cassette is all steel, heavy & more robust. Perfect for e-bikes. (not that e-bikes need a 12 speed but that's another topic) Then the...

Maybe the cheap cassette is all steel, heavy & more robust. Perfect for e-bikes. (not that e-bikes need a 12 speed but that's another topic)

 

Then the bikes can go with the lighter X01 Transmission cassette (and chain) with the new cabled derailleur which will be lighter than any electronic derailleur, and depending on your tastes, shift better too.

 

Honestly, I'm not a fan of electronic groups (dead horse) so that's It's likely what I'd do. 

Same.

Not even on my e-bike. If it was hardwired and had like a 10 speed wide ratio with an all steel cassette, I could live with it on an e-bike though.

Shimano has the right cassettes, but the hard wire part would probably only work with a Shimano motor if they release their new DI2 with the capability to work with Linkglide.

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O1D4 wrote:
Has anyone seen anything of the Porsche E-Bikes yet? I got passed by an E-Bike the other day and at first thought that maybe the person...

Has anyone seen anything of the Porsche E-Bikes yet? I got passed by an E-Bike the other day and at first thought that maybe the person had put a big Porsche sticker on their bike as a joke but at second glance it was actually graphics and the whole bike looked extremely polished, different to any other E-Bike I know of and was kitted out with all sorts of bling parts. Sadly they were too fast to interrogate them or snap a pic but it would seem that Porsche might be pretty close to unveiling something given how 'production quality' the whole bike looked. It had PORSCHE prominently written on the top tube of the bike, horizontal shock layout underneath the top tube (Porsche's current hybrid style E-Bikes have horizontal shocks) with either a Vorsprung or Push shock (reservoir and body was all silver/raw), the motor wasn't particularly quiet and sounded like most other E-Bikes, and the rider looked kitted out like someone that takes riding very seriously... So could have passed as a 'professional test rider' 🤣

Not the most exciting rumor without a pic or anything (and E-Bike related on top of that) but wondering if anyone has seen/heard something yet from Porsche? 

Suns_PSD wrote:

Yah, because Porsche owns Fazua, they are releasing a line of e-bikes. Apparently full power.

Yeah this did not seem like a Fazua bike, motor was bigger and bike looked like a full power bike so this must be from their own offering. Their website still has very little info besides saying they are working hard on their first bikes and there's a quick glimpse of a bike that might look like what I saw in their little teaser video...10000477521000047756.png?VersionId=krOwaY d5p2

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