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Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

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Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff.

Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

 

I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. 

But, there is a snapshot when he leans the bike over to the other side, and you can clearly see whatever Hope does when you can remove the pistons. 

And the banjo fitting on the caliper is the same as Hope uses, different from trickstuff. Also there are some adjustor screws on the levers which looks like what Hope usually does
 

So im betting its some new updated hope version


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Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff.

Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

Etney wrote:
 I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. But, there is a snapshot when he...

 

I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. 

But, there is a snapshot when he leans the bike over to the other side, and you can clearly see whatever Hope does when you can remove the pistons. 

And the banjo fitting on the caliper is the same as Hope uses, different from trickstuff. Also there are some adjustor screws on the levers which looks like what Hope usually does
 

So im betting its some new updated hope version


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Could make sense, in conjunction with the updated Hope master cylinder with a bleed screw on it recently. 

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Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff.

Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

no idea what those are but looks interesting

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Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff.

Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

Etney wrote:
 I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. But, there is a snapshot when he...

 

I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. 

But, there is a snapshot when he leans the bike over to the other side, and you can clearly see whatever Hope does when you can remove the pistons. 

And the banjo fitting on the caliper is the same as Hope uses, different from trickstuff. Also there are some adjustor screws on the levers which looks like what Hope usually does
 

So im betting its some new updated hope version


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Carraig042 wrote:

Could make sense, in conjunction with the updated Hope master cylinder with a bleed screw on it recently. 

they do have red pads tho, the classic trickstuff power pads, and it would be about time that trickstuff made something new, a way tom improve them even further could be by adding stiffness to the caliper making it one piece

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Took me a bit to dig this up... Specialized patent drawing from late 2023.

Looks like they're continuing to iterate on this.

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Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff.

Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

Etney wrote:
 I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. But, there is a snapshot when he...

 

I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. 

But, there is a snapshot when he leans the bike over to the other side, and you can clearly see whatever Hope does when you can remove the pistons. 

And the banjo fitting on the caliper is the same as Hope uses, different from trickstuff. Also there are some adjustor screws on the levers which looks like what Hope usually does
 

So im betting its some new updated hope version


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Those are Galfer rotors. I’d assume Hope or Trickstuff would do development with their own rotors. 

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2/23/2025 12:49am
tripo19 wrote:
spotted on amaury pierron’s ig story, strange knob on the air stanchion of Amaury's fork, could be a spring damper Boxxer?
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spotted on amaury pierron’s ig story, 

strange knob on the air stanchion of Amaury's fork, could be a spring damper Boxxer?

Hydraulic Bottomout Control?

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2/23/2025 12:56am
Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff.

Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

Etney wrote:
 I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. But, there is a snapshot when he...

 

I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. 

But, there is a snapshot when he leans the bike over to the other side, and you can clearly see whatever Hope does when you can remove the pistons. 

And the banjo fitting on the caliper is the same as Hope uses, different from trickstuff. Also there are some adjustor screws on the levers which looks like what Hope usually does
 

So im betting its some new updated hope version


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I love the fact the bike is so modern , new brakes in development, new belt drive frame, same 10+ year old 471's haha.

Definitely look like new Hopes, and as @Carraig042 mentioned it lines up with the new master cylinder we've seen. 

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shreda
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2/23/2025 1:33am

What if Oak Components (also a German brand with simolar looking levers) is starting to make their own brake? 

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2/23/2025 2:58am
Fantaman wrote:
chriskief wrote:
Took me a bit to dig this up... Specialized patent drawing from late 2023.Looks like they're continuing to iterate on this.

Took me a bit to dig this up... Specialized patent drawing from late 2023.

Looks like they're continuing to iterate on this.

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The idler is moved forward on the version they build, probably to get it closer to the instant centre.

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2/23/2025 6:28am
shreda wrote:

What if Oak Components (also a German brand with simolar looking levers) is starting to make their own brake? 

What about Galfer themselves? Wasn’t there a rumor they are prototyping their own brake? 
And while speaking about brakes, what happened to those Hayes proto calipers that were rumored to be a Dominion gen2? There was a photo of them and then nothing…

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shreda wrote:

What if Oak Components (also a German brand with simolar looking levers) is starting to make their own brake? 

What about Galfer themselves? Wasn’t there a rumor they are prototyping their own brake? And while speaking about brakes, what happened to those Hayes proto calipers that...

What about Galfer themselves? Wasn’t there a rumor they are prototyping their own brake? 
And while speaking about brakes, what happened to those Hayes proto calipers that were rumored to be a Dominion gen2? There was a photo of them and then nothing…

Yeah I was going to suggest Galfer also.  I think there was also a photo circulating from them about a year ago of a proto caliper also in raw finish.  I wonder if they go the Cascade Components route and do just the caliper at first, then work on lever second, or if they do a complete brake set.

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Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff.

Was this posted before? Simon Maurer on some brakes. Caliper reminds me of Trickstuff. Screenshot 2025-02-22-22-37-37-410 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-34-34-613 com.instagram.androidScreenshot 2025-02-22-22-36-09-357 com.instagram.android 0

Etney wrote:
 I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. But, there is a snapshot when he...

 

I first thought trickstuff as well, machining looks very nice, and the color of the pads looks like trickstuff power. 

But, there is a snapshot when he leans the bike over to the other side, and you can clearly see whatever Hope does when you can remove the pistons. 

And the banjo fitting on the caliper is the same as Hope uses, different from trickstuff. Also there are some adjustor screws on the levers which looks like what Hope usually does
 

So im betting its some new updated hope version


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Those are Galfer rotors. I’d assume Hope or Trickstuff would do development with their own rotors. 

Galfer makes Hope's pads IIRC...

And to further muddy the waters, MTX makes aftermarket pads for Hope and their race compound pads are red...image 210.png?VersionId=8Hx21hoFTc35UizKpmjt

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3d printed saddle from Trek

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tripo19 wrote:
spotted on amaury pierron’s ig story, strange knob on the air stanchion of Amaury's fork, could be a spring damper Boxxer?
IMG 2906.jpeg?VersionId=HX.8eIjM10

spotted on amaury pierron’s ig story, 

strange knob on the air stanchion of Amaury's fork, could be a spring damper Boxxer?

Looks familiar 🤔

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2/23/2025 12:09pm
tripo19 wrote:
spotted on amaury pierron’s ig story, strange knob on the air stanchion of Amaury's fork, could be a spring damper Boxxer?
IMG 2906.jpeg?VersionId=HX.8eIjM10

spotted on amaury pierron’s ig story, 

strange knob on the air stanchion of Amaury's fork, could be a spring damper Boxxer?

Looks familiar 🤔

Looks familiar 🤔

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Well I guess that's it. Maybe they just stripped the anodising off to not give it too much away. That team used third party products before, they were testing Vorsprung's Secus last off season.

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2/23/2025 12:20pm

RE Maurer's brakes: the star-shape cutout for the pistons is not something exclusive to Hope. The lever looks really similar in shape to the ones Oak Components sell. The Galfer caliper looked different (pics from 2023):

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2/23/2025 12:21pm Edited Date/Time 2/23/2025 12:24pm

A really bad pic - But a bike reviewer posted some pics of his current test mule, and he had blurred out a seatpost and a drivetrain.

The seatpost was clearly the new Rockshox dropper, so I thought that the drivetrain might be something from srammers as well.

He had posted a very dark pic of the same bike just a few hours earlier. Which with a little bit of editing - Looks like this

 

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Clearly a transmission-esque rear deraillieur, with a transmission casette. Front chainring looks different from any of the wireless models, and since there are two hoses/cables coming off his right side of the handlebar. Seems safe to say this is the non-wireless transmission being tested.

 

The pic that circulated the internet a few months ago - Can clearly see some similarities of the profile of the hanger part. 
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Might be closer than we think to the actual launch then. If reviewers already have them on testing. 

Flight attendant launched with the Epic 8 on March 12th last year. They will probably bring updated colors out around the 1 year mark in a few weeks - Maybe we'll see another Rockshox/SRAM+Specialized collab, and the new S-works comes with the new dropper and the new Mineral oil brakes? And the lower tier models comes with this new wired transmission? Or is that too much tinfoil hat from me?

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2/24/2025 3:40am

Not secret tech - possibly very useful tech? So this has been around for a year and they have just released external triggers for it - https://bybtech.it/product/chrono#content

https://bybtech.it/store/product/byb-chrono

https://bybtech.it/store/product/byb-chrono-external-trigger-double

Has anyone used this device? The gps sample rate is 25 Hz compared to 1Hz of a Garmin/Iphone
 

 

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2/24/2025 5:10am
What about Galfer themselves? Wasn’t there a rumor they are prototyping their own brake? And while speaking about brakes, what happened to those Hayes proto calipers that...

What about Galfer themselves? Wasn’t there a rumor they are prototyping their own brake? 
And while speaking about brakes, what happened to those Hayes proto calipers that were rumored to be a Dominion gen2? There was a photo of them and then nothing…

Anyone thinking possible Brembo entrance into mtb, or too early for them to have something started by now?

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2/24/2025 5:44am

Someone will be running the numbers 📈 I bet! They have a trials brake/clutch ATM, the caliper is 20% bigger than a maven size brake (260mm rotors). It’s an obvious move, but they would probably need OEM volume (Specialized?). Braketec offer a brake that would work currently and the trials guys are swapping to smaller aftermarket levers at the moment too. The use case scenarios are 30-40kg of a difference if your talking about e-bikes.

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15-year-old's journey into making his own full suspension frame

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bmxconan wrote:
Not secret tech - possibly very useful tech? So this has been around for a year and they have just released external triggers for it -...

Not secret tech - possibly very useful tech? So this has been around for a year and they have just released external triggers for it - https://bybtech.it/product/chrono#content

https://bybtech.it/store/product/byb-chrono

https://bybtech.it/store/product/byb-chrono-external-trigger-double

Has anyone used this device? The gps sample rate is 25 Hz compared to 1Hz of a Garmin/Iphone
 

 

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2/24/2025 12:30pm
bmxconan wrote:
Not secret tech - possibly very useful tech? So this has been around for a year and they have just released external triggers for it -...

Not secret tech - possibly very useful tech? So this has been around for a year and they have just released external triggers for it - https://bybtech.it/product/chrono#content

https://bybtech.it/store/product/byb-chrono

https://bybtech.it/store/product/byb-chrono-external-trigger-double

Has anyone used this device? The gps sample rate is 25 Hz compared to 1Hz of a Garmin/Iphone
 

 

dolface wrote:

No I haven't used those BYB lap timers. The only one I've used it LitPro

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2/24/2025 3:52pm

Richie usually runs Ochain but this one looks different?

IMG 5531

 

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moust wrote:
long time reader first time poster here..friends of mine are developing an vacuum bleeder for shocks and fork dampers to fully service your suspension at home...

long time reader first time poster here..

friends of mine are developing an vacuum bleeder for shocks and fork dampers to fully service your suspension at home, without the need of messy handbleeding.

I just got the chance to try the machine myself and it works pretty straight forward. I thought i spread the word in here because i think this is a pretty cool innovation in the mtb tech for home mechanics/ race day applications etc. 

https://www.futureliteindustries.com/

 

This is pretty amazing, love the innovation here.

 

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Trocko wrote:
Richie usually runs Ochain but this one looks different? 

Richie usually runs Ochain but this one looks different?

IMG 5531

 

Yeah I don't recognize that either. Might be an Ochain-like device, but it looks very "power meter" to me.

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2/24/2025 7:20pm
moust wrote:
long time reader first time poster here..friends of mine are developing an vacuum bleeder for shocks and fork dampers to fully service your suspension at home...

long time reader first time poster here..

friends of mine are developing an vacuum bleeder for shocks and fork dampers to fully service your suspension at home, without the need of messy handbleeding.

I just got the chance to try the machine myself and it works pretty straight forward. I thought i spread the word in here because i think this is a pretty cool innovation in the mtb tech for home mechanics/ race day applications etc. 

https://www.futureliteindustries.com/

 

Onawalk wrote:

This is pretty amazing, love the innovation here.

 

looks good !!!!! perhaps cause Im a coffeehead haha

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