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FaahkEet
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1/25/2025 8:14am

$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

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1/25/2025 9:40am Edited Date/Time 1/25/2025 9:54am
overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

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1/25/2025 9:53am
FaahkEet wrote:
$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your...

$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

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Has anyone seen a review of the Oneup new clipless/clip pedals besides what was discussed on the podcast?

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overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

Screenshot 2025-01-25 at 9.52.40%E2%80%AFAM.png?VersionId=O.rh0qFkMAKq7X8uIG9lhngIglI3h.F

Not quite it, but I'm in the same boat. I've seen this link before. 

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1/25/2025 10:12am
FaahkEet wrote:
$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your...

$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

Carraig042 wrote:

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

The RS has MIPS Integra Split “which combines an impact-savvy, dual-density foam layer and a Low Friction Layer between the two, to reduce rotational forces in a crash that would otherwise be transmitted to the brain.” The other speed frames have MIPS Air Node, which actually increases your likelihood of a brain bleed as punishment for not buying the $280 helmet.

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1/25/2025 10:54am
overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

Screenshot 2025-01-25 at 9.52.40%E2%80%AFAM.png?VersionId=O.rh0qFkMAKq7X8uIG9lhngIglI3h.F

It won't be a vitus. They had this alloy DH bike in the works before they shut down.Untitled design 88 39a7ad7c-f7fb-4927-8c7b-d4318e066f8b 1024x1024.png?VersionId=kyj3v

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1/25/2025 1:01pm
Carraig042 wrote:

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

Looks like just the mips integrated split.  All other features are the same (fidlock, sunglass storage, etc)

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1/25/2025 3:24pm
Carraig042 wrote:

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

starlord22 wrote:

Looks like just the mips integrated split.  All other features are the same (fidlock, sunglass storage, etc)

No idea why someone was downvoting you youre 100% correct. New speedframes are a huge improvement, they were gunning for the most safety and they claimed top spot at a fraction of the price of the ares. Both dual density options are 1st and 2nd atm at virginia tech. They fit well, vent crazy and are just generally way better than the outgoing model. 

 

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1/25/2025 4:28pm
RaggedEdge wrote:

Has anyone seen a review of the Oneup new clipless/clip pedals besides what was discussed on the podcast?

One ride in they seem great. They do all the things they say they do and have a nice positive entry. Worth a shot if you're in the market for a clip pedal with a bit of platform. I'm pretty happy so far. 

Not as easy to unclip vs a mallet, but I'd expect them to wear in a bit still yet. They feel like they wouldn't have the surprise unclip of a mallet through haha. 

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Hm, does the seatstay mount even clear the chainstay? Obviously it has, it just looks a bit weird from this angle. 

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1/26/2025 1:18am
RaggedEdge wrote:

Has anyone seen a review of the Oneup new clipless/clip pedals besides what was discussed on the podcast?

Robstyle wrote:
One ride in they seem great. They do all the things they say they do and have a nice positive entry. Worth a shot if you're...

One ride in they seem great. They do all the things they say they do and have a nice positive entry. Worth a shot if you're in the market for a clip pedal with a bit of platform. I'm pretty happy so far. 

Not as easy to unclip vs a mallet, but I'd expect them to wear in a bit still yet. They feel like they wouldn't have the surprise unclip of a mallet through haha. 

This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.
I hated Shimano SPD's because of the freeplay they have before 'float' kicked in.

The only Thing I've found is how tight full loose is - kinda wish Oneup had gone slightly less tension as full tight is Knee/ankle killing tight.
I Normally run Mallet E LS's and they are perfect tension for me.
 


 

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This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.I hated Shimano SPD's because...

This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.
I hated Shimano SPD's because of the freeplay they have before 'float' kicked in.

The only Thing I've found is how tight full loose is - kinda wish Oneup had gone slightly less tension as full tight is Knee/ankle killing tight.
I Normally run Mallet E LS's and they are perfect tension for me.
 


 

I’m interested to see if/how they wear in over time. I’ve been on CB pedals forever and I like the looser tension on CB but I’ve rebuild my Mallet E LS twice already and lost count of how many cleats I’ve gone through. I’ve got two bikes so it’d be a bigger commitment to go to OneUp/SPD at this point haha

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What's old is new.

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This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.I hated Shimano SPD's because...

This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.
I hated Shimano SPD's because of the freeplay they have before 'float' kicked in.

The only Thing I've found is how tight full loose is - kinda wish Oneup had gone slightly less tension as full tight is Knee/ankle killing tight.
I Normally run Mallet E LS's and they are perfect tension for me.
 


 

Poleczechy wrote:
I’m interested to see if/how they wear in over time. I’ve been on CB pedals forever and I like the looser tension on CB but I’ve...

I’m interested to see if/how they wear in over time. I’ve been on CB pedals forever and I like the looser tension on CB but I’ve rebuild my Mallet E LS twice already and lost count of how many cleats I’ve gone through. I’ve got two bikes so it’d be a bigger commitment to go to OneUp/SPD at this point haha

I’ve run them on a couple rides, (normally on Mallets) and I’m having some trouble disengaging from the OneUps if I leave some weight on the Pedals and rotate past 12 degrees.  My muscle memory is probably to blame, but it’s not inspiring confidence.

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1/26/2025 7:53am
TEAMROBOT wrote:

What's old is new.

Was showing one of my friends this last night and he said the exact same thing. Although back in the day, you never really saw it on Horst Link designs…

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Neko talked about optimizing certain aspect for different rider like how Angel like a different leverage ratio curve than he does.

This might be in a similar vein that one of the rider would prefer a higher anti-rise ratio than the standard setup ?

Also I can't wait for them to release for sale the bonded frames. They look so good. 

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It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked the components I have bought from the company.

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MTBrent wrote:
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1llumA wrote:
Neko talked about optimizing certain aspect for different rider like how Angel like a different leverage ratio curve than he does.This might be in a similar...

Neko talked about optimizing certain aspect for different rider like how Angel like a different leverage ratio curve than he does.

This might be in a similar vein that one of the rider would prefer a higher anti-rise ratio than the standard setup ?

Also I can't wait for them to release for sale the bonded frames. They look so good. 

Iirc the bonded frames are a one off project?

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amaranth wrote:

Iirc the bonded frames are a one off project?

I figured it was a test / r&d frame given the floating arm has 2 different mounts plus an adjustment slot 

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1/26/2025 12:56pm
RaggedEdge wrote:
It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked...

It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked the components I have bought from the company.

Yeah I agree. I already have a set, and they are mounted to my bike. Huge fan of other OneUp stuff, and not a huge fan of the saints - But I love the SPD standard, so I ordered a set as soon as the launched. 

But I am looking for reviews or videos on them, to see how they actually perform out in the real world. About 3 feet of snow where I currently am, so not possible to ride and test them myself. 

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1/26/2025 1:32pm
Poleczechy wrote:
I’m interested to see if/how they wear in over time. I’ve been on CB pedals forever and I like the looser tension on CB but I’ve...

I’m interested to see if/how they wear in over time. I’ve been on CB pedals forever and I like the looser tension on CB but I’ve rebuild my Mallet E LS twice already and lost count of how many cleats I’ve gone through. I’ve got two bikes so it’d be a bigger commitment to go to OneUp/SPD at this point haha

Was actually looking at new pedals this afternoon - I’ve got 2 sets of mallets so like you quite a layout to swap over, but then I aw Silca do Ti cleats.. I’m trying to find an issue with them.. I go through 2 sets a year and I;ve had my current Mallet E for around 5 years, so the Ti cleats would work out cheaper in the long run…

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RaggedEdge wrote:
It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked...

It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked the components I have bought from the company.

Etney wrote:
Yeah I agree. I already have a set, and they are mounted to my bike. Huge fan of other OneUp stuff, and not a huge fan...

Yeah I agree. I already have a set, and they are mounted to my bike. Huge fan of other OneUp stuff, and not a huge fan of the saints - But I love the SPD standard, so I ordered a set as soon as the launched. 

But I am looking for reviews or videos on them, to see how they actually perform out in the real world. About 3 feet of snow where I currently am, so not possible to ride and test them myself. 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something

You've bought, and own pedals, that just came out, and are a brand new, first year product from a manufacturer that does not make clipless pedals

and youre looking for/confused by lack of reviews online....in winter, for a product released essentially in winter

if you wanted to read reviews to help determine if it was the right product for you, would waiting to purchase them have been a better idea?  Or is the desire to read reviews to help justify the purchase of these specific pedals.

As I read my comment it sounds Twuntyier than I actually mean, generally curious

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RaggedEdge wrote:
It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked...

It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked the components I have bought from the company.

So a "buddy" of mine used to write reviews for MTB brands/apparel/components.  He/they would not/hesitate/re-write negative reviews of things so as to help maintain the relationship they had with the companies they were dealing with.  Sometimes, they just simply wouldnt publish a review for the product they were sent.

Think back to the last time you read a overly negative review of a product.  Now I get that most products are really good nowadays, and most reviews are written in a way to highlight the favourable aspects of a product, or to highlight that a certain product might not be for everyone, but its great for this specific person, on this specific trail, at this specific hour of the day......etc.

The V1 OneUp dropper is a great example.  Its a mediocre dropper at best, it requires a tonne of regular maintenance, and the original bushings would get chewed up by the brass keyways.  All you could find was ring kissing, glowing reviews of that dropper, and those issues were noticeable after a couple months of use.  There were far better droppers, for less money, but didnt have the same "cache" as OneUp did.

The V2 was better, and the V3 better still, but its longevity still remains to be seen.

My V2 Dreadnaught is prolly similar, its an incredible bike, I'm stoked to have it, but its "window" of optimal operating situations is narrower than I would have expected.  When I bought the bike, there were very few reviews of it, and it had been "out" for months at that point.

Back to rumours, 

Norco "Shore" series Sight and Optic come specd' with the new SRAM 1000 series gear......

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1/26/2025 6:05pm Edited Date/Time 1/26/2025 6:05pm
RaggedEdge wrote:
It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked...

It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked the components I have bought from the company.

Etney wrote:
Yeah I agree. I already have a set, and they are mounted to my bike. Huge fan of other OneUp stuff, and not a huge fan...

Yeah I agree. I already have a set, and they are mounted to my bike. Huge fan of other OneUp stuff, and not a huge fan of the saints - But I love the SPD standard, so I ordered a set as soon as the launched. 

But I am looking for reviews or videos on them, to see how they actually perform out in the real world. About 3 feet of snow where I currently am, so not possible to ride and test them myself. 

Onawalk wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding somethingYou've bought, and own pedals, that just came out, and are a brand new, first year product from a manufacturer that does not...

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something

You've bought, and own pedals, that just came out, and are a brand new, first year product from a manufacturer that does not make clipless pedals

and youre looking for/confused by lack of reviews online....in winter, for a product released essentially in winter

if you wanted to read reviews to help determine if it was the right product for you, would waiting to purchase them have been a better idea?  Or is the desire to read reviews to help justify the purchase of these specific pedals.

As I read my comment it sounds Twuntyier than I actually mean, generally curious

I'll just say from what i've heard from someone who got a set of the Oneups early, they don't feel like crankbrothers, still more like SPD but way more refined and feels like the best version of SPD out there. I don't really like SPD and prefer crankbrothers so I'll stick to the mallet dh

1/26/2025 6:43pm
RaggedEdge wrote:
It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked...

It seems strange that Oneup didn't have people reviewing prior to the release so the reviews could be dropped the same day. I have really liked the components I have bought from the company.

Onawalk wrote:
So a "buddy" of mine used to write reviews for MTB brands/apparel/components.  He/they would not/hesitate/re-write negative reviews of things so as to help maintain the relationship...

So a "buddy" of mine used to write reviews for MTB brands/apparel/components.  He/they would not/hesitate/re-write negative reviews of things so as to help maintain the relationship they had with the companies they were dealing with.  Sometimes, they just simply wouldnt publish a review for the product they were sent.

Think back to the last time you read a overly negative review of a product.  Now I get that most products are really good nowadays, and most reviews are written in a way to highlight the favourable aspects of a product, or to highlight that a certain product might not be for everyone, but its great for this specific person, on this specific trail, at this specific hour of the day......etc.

The V1 OneUp dropper is a great example.  Its a mediocre dropper at best, it requires a tonne of regular maintenance, and the original bushings would get chewed up by the brass keyways.  All you could find was ring kissing, glowing reviews of that dropper, and those issues were noticeable after a couple months of use.  There were far better droppers, for less money, but didnt have the same "cache" as OneUp did.

The V2 was better, and the V3 better still, but its longevity still remains to be seen.

My V2 Dreadnaught is prolly similar, its an incredible bike, I'm stoked to have it, but its "window" of optimal operating situations is narrower than I would have expected.  When I bought the bike, there were very few reviews of it, and it had been "out" for months at that point.

Back to rumours, 

Norco "Shore" series Sight and Optic come specd' with the new SRAM 1000 series gear......

100% - Id like to believe Enduro-MTB was on the receiving end of some brand hate after they were very honest with several Bikes - now their opinion is crap because its influenced. - This kinda stuff has quite an effect on site sponsors/advertisers aswell

I remember being on a german forum When they published the pre 24 Sentinel Review(pub 2nd jan 21 but its been edited a bit since first published) and Several Enduro-mtb guys were saying the bike was crap. - From my own experience it wasnt a great bike. terribly balanced and shoddy quality - atleast they(TR) listened to customers and fixed it in the next model.

 

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Onawalk wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding somethingYou've bought, and own pedals, that just came out, and are a brand new, first year product from a manufacturer that does not...

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something

You've bought, and own pedals, that just came out, and are a brand new, first year product from a manufacturer that does not make clipless pedals

and youre looking for/confused by lack of reviews online....in winter, for a product released essentially in winter

if you wanted to read reviews to help determine if it was the right product for you, would waiting to purchase them have been a better idea?  Or is the desire to read reviews to help justify the purchase of these specific pedals.

As I read my comment it sounds Twuntyier than I actually mean, generally curious

Since I dont have the chance to ride or test them myself. But bought them more on a whim, since they are from a company which products I like, using a clip standard that I like. The odds are pretty good that they are the pedals for me, hence the purchase.

I normally do a fair bit of research, and look for reviews or videos for most parts I buy, but because of the above mentioned, this time I didnt - Because there are no reviews. 

So, yeah partly because I want to know more/hear other peoples thoughts about them, since I cant really ride them for another 2~ months myself, and partly to justify the purchase I guess? 

I fully see the point that its winter, and they are released by a company located where its winter as well. But one would think that they would have had review samples out for a few months. But seems like that is not the case this time. Maybe pedals arent significant enough of a component to justify that kind of coverage

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Some very "Rotor" looking new cranks for road, gravel, mtb, from the founders of Rotor....

https://bikerumor.com/qo-carbon-cranks-launch-new-road-gravel-mtb-components-from-founders-of-rotor/

Favorite line from the press release/interview.

 the arms feature ‘MaxStrength Slots’, essentially external ribs mid-way through the crankarms to increase stiffness.

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jazza_wil wrote:
Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame

Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

Looks like a Haro to me

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