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1/24/2025 8:43am Edited Date/Time 1/24/2025 8:43am
pK wrote:
Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

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1/24/2025 9:06am
pK wrote:
Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

Finally, with sunglass ports, I rule out any helmet without them. Hoping the Smith Forefront 3 will be released soon. 

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1/24/2025 9:09am
Karabuka wrote:

Dropouts really look similar, axle seems a bit optimized but is there a pivot on the bottom? Another crab?

FWIW thats the same chainstay rubber that came on my banshee legend...

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1/24/2025 9:12am
Karabuka wrote:

Dropouts really look similar, axle seems a bit optimized but is there a pivot on the bottom? Another crab?

DirtyHal wrote:

FWIW thats the same chainstay rubber that came on my banshee legend...

This one is a Banshee. 

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1/24/2025 10:26am
maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

Sorry to disappoint you guys... Its not a banshee. 

Its a mule we use to develop kinematics and geometries for the new Porsche bikes.

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jazza_wil wrote:
Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame

Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

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1/24/2025 11:53am
maxwrbike wrote:
Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to...
IMG 0789.png?VersionId=8v34lzW7ow5tBd86Ip

Hit the P2 link a few pages back. Could this be a new banshee? Not aware of anyone else using drop outs like this. Looks to have a pivot point near the axle now. 

Sorry to disappoint you guys... Its not a banshee. 

Its a mule we use to develop kinematics and geometries for the new Porsche bikes.

You just ruined my day. Thanks for the info!

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jazza_wil wrote:
Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame

Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

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1/24/2025 1:02pm
jazza_wil wrote:
Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame

Unfortunate for Max snapping his Achilles, blacked out unlabeled frame IMG 0125 0

overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

Eae903 wrote:

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.

After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a similar rocker and dropouts.

IMG 4757

I have recently seen a new AL chromag DJ prototype too si it seems like they are about to offer more alloy frames which would go well with this Freeride frame.

Also Max has the bike fully decked out with Chromag parts. 

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1/24/2025 3:28pm
oolex wrote:
Rachel is riding a non-gearbox A200 in Matt Jones' latest video. When will we see her on the new bike?https://youtu.be/jnG5_9WUJPI?si=XjSk9DxRioFIwfLS 

Rachel is riding a non-gearbox A200 in Matt Jones' latest video. When will we see her on the new bike?

https://youtu.be/jnG5_9WUJPI?si=XjSk9DxRioFIwfLS 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think only Charlie and maybe Gee has a gearbox bike at the moment. Rachel does tap the side of her helmet in the vid though as if to hint at something.

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1/24/2025 8:37pm
overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

Eae903 wrote:

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

shreda wrote:
My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a...

My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.

After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a similar rocker and dropouts.

IMG 4757

I have recently seen a new AL chromag DJ prototype too si it seems like they are about to offer more alloy frames which would go well with this Freeride frame.

Also Max has the bike fully decked out with Chromag parts. 

IIRC Max is an Orbea athlete, pretty sure that's the new Orbea DH bike that's been mentioned a few times in this thread. There were a couple posts specifically about Max riding that frame back in Canada. My guess is Orbea gave it to him to see if he could break it doing Max things. Unfortunately for him, he broke first, but at least we know the FMD team should have something burly lol.

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1/25/2025 4:55am
pK wrote:
Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

Finally, with sunglass ports, I rule out any helmet without them. Hoping the Smith Forefront 3 will be released soon. 

Is the visor/peak adjustable? Looks like there’s something on top but there’s no photos of any other position. 
I won’t have a visor that doesn’t actually function as one for the purpose of blocking out low sunlight. 
 

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Eae903 wrote:

I think that bike wins the most generic silhouette award. I can not think of what bike it might be. 

shreda wrote:
My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a...

My plug told me its from a Canadian brand.

After thinking for a bit I had to check the Chromag full suspension frames and they have a similar rocker and dropouts.

IMG 4757

I have recently seen a new AL chromag DJ prototype too si it seems like they are about to offer more alloy frames which would go well with this Freeride frame.

Also Max has the bike fully decked out with Chromag parts. 

IIRC Max is an Orbea athlete, pretty sure that's the new Orbea DH bike that's been mentioned a few times in this thread. There were a...

IIRC Max is an Orbea athlete, pretty sure that's the new Orbea DH bike that's been mentioned a few times in this thread. There were a couple posts specifically about Max riding that frame back in Canada. My guess is Orbea gave it to him to see if he could break it doing Max things. Unfortunately for him, he broke first, but at least we know the FMD team should have something burly lol.

I think he’s been off Orbea for a while and that would be a weird way to launch their new bike when they have FMD to do it.  That bike looks way too generic to be an Orbea, I’d expect something a bit more Wild.  

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1/25/2025 7:26am
pK wrote:
Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!Actual Speedframe [url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/gjk0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/gjk0.jpeg[/img][/url]2023 Eurobike[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/t1c0.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/t1c0.jpeg[/img][/url]Laurie Greenland new Helmet[url=https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=25/02/a7vx.jpeg][img]https://zupimages.net/up/25/02/a7vx.jpeg[/img][/url]

Seems the Fox Speedframe RS is finally ready to be launched after being seen at the 2023 Eurobike !!

Actual Speedframe 



2023 Eurobike



Laurie Greenland new Helmet

starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

that new speedframe RS should have already dropped in spring 2024, but there are just too many old speedframe helmets in stock everywhere.

looks like fox finally launched it quietly.

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1/25/2025 7:56am Edited Date/Time 1/25/2025 7:57am
starlord22 wrote:

they just dropped on fox's website. Looks like they're revamping the entire speedframe  line.

 

https://www.foxracing.com/helmets/mtb/speedframe/

Finally, with sunglass ports, I rule out any helmet without them. Hoping the Smith Forefront 3 will be released soon. 

AJW1 wrote:
Is the visor/peak adjustable? Looks like there’s something on top but there’s no photos of any other position. I won’t have a visor that doesn’t actually function...

Is the visor/peak adjustable? Looks like there’s something on top but there’s no photos of any other position. 
I won’t have a visor that doesn’t actually function as one for the purpose of blocking out low sunlight. 
 

It shows up on hover/mouseover...

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$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

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overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

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1/25/2025 9:53am
FaahkEet wrote:
$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your...

$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

1/25/2025 9:55am

Has anyone seen a review of the Oneup new clipless/clip pedals besides what was discussed on the podcast?

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overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

Screenshot 2025-01-25 at 9.52.40%E2%80%AFAM.png?VersionId=O.rh0qFkMAKq7X8uIG9lhngIglI3h.F

Not quite it, but I'm in the same boat. I've seen this link before. 

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FaahkEet wrote:
$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your...

$280 USD for the new Speedframe? Does it incorporate a mini air conditioning unit? A button that summons a bike butler to clean and store your bike after you ride? It must come with some kind of wild premium feature to cost that much. 

Carraig042 wrote:

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

The RS has MIPS Integra Split “which combines an impact-savvy, dual-density foam layer and a Low Friction Layer between the two, to reduce rotational forces in a crash that would otherwise be transmitted to the brain.” The other speed frames have MIPS Air Node, which actually increases your likelihood of a brain bleed as punishment for not buying the $280 helmet.

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1/25/2025 10:54am
overbiked wrote:

This bike, especially the link, looks so darn familiar but I just can't put my finger on it...

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but...

I also recognize that top link but can't place it. But I've absolutely seen it before.

It looks a little like a Vitus Sommet 297 link, but it looks a lot like an Airdrop Edit MX link:. Did I scroll through this entire list of 186 bike companies to find these two examples? Maybe. Did it feel better to scratch that itch, and help me avoid doing homework? Absolutely.

Screenshot 2025-01-25 at 9.52.40%E2%80%AFAM.png?VersionId=O.rh0qFkMAKq7X8uIG9lhngIglI3h.F

It won't be a vitus. They had this alloy DH bike in the works before they shut down.Untitled design 88 39a7ad7c-f7fb-4927-8c7b-d4318e066f8b 1024x1024.png?VersionId=kyj3v

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Carraig042 wrote:

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

Looks like just the mips integrated split.  All other features are the same (fidlock, sunglass storage, etc)

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Carraig042 wrote:

Was wondering what the feature(s) is on the RS model over the Pro, didn't see on a quick glimpse.

starlord22 wrote:

Looks like just the mips integrated split.  All other features are the same (fidlock, sunglass storage, etc)

No idea why someone was downvoting you youre 100% correct. New speedframes are a huge improvement, they were gunning for the most safety and they claimed top spot at a fraction of the price of the ares. Both dual density options are 1st and 2nd atm at virginia tech. They fit well, vent crazy and are just generally way better than the outgoing model. 

 

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RaggedEdge wrote:

Has anyone seen a review of the Oneup new clipless/clip pedals besides what was discussed on the podcast?

One ride in they seem great. They do all the things they say they do and have a nice positive entry. Worth a shot if you're in the market for a clip pedal with a bit of platform. I'm pretty happy so far. 

Not as easy to unclip vs a mallet, but I'd expect them to wear in a bit still yet. They feel like they wouldn't have the surprise unclip of a mallet through haha. 

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Hm, does the seatstay mount even clear the chainstay? Obviously it has, it just looks a bit weird from this angle. 

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1/26/2025 1:18am
RaggedEdge wrote:

Has anyone seen a review of the Oneup new clipless/clip pedals besides what was discussed on the podcast?

Robstyle wrote:
One ride in they seem great. They do all the things they say they do and have a nice positive entry. Worth a shot if you're...

One ride in they seem great. They do all the things they say they do and have a nice positive entry. Worth a shot if you're in the market for a clip pedal with a bit of platform. I'm pretty happy so far. 

Not as easy to unclip vs a mallet, but I'd expect them to wear in a bit still yet. They feel like they wouldn't have the surprise unclip of a mallet through haha. 

This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.
I hated Shimano SPD's because of the freeplay they have before 'float' kicked in.

The only Thing I've found is how tight full loose is - kinda wish Oneup had gone slightly less tension as full tight is Knee/ankle killing tight.
I Normally run Mallet E LS's and they are perfect tension for me.
 


 

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1/26/2025 6:32am
This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.I hated Shimano SPD's because...

This, i just spent 3 days on mine, they are considerably better than any shimano offerings in the 'ride feel' category IMO.
I hated Shimano SPD's because of the freeplay they have before 'float' kicked in.

The only Thing I've found is how tight full loose is - kinda wish Oneup had gone slightly less tension as full tight is Knee/ankle killing tight.
I Normally run Mallet E LS's and they are perfect tension for me.
 


 

I’m interested to see if/how they wear in over time. I’ve been on CB pedals forever and I like the looser tension on CB but I’ve rebuild my Mallet E LS twice already and lost count of how many cleats I’ve gone through. I’ve got two bikes so it’d be a bigger commitment to go to OneUp/SPD at this point haha

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