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amaranth
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1/15/2025 9:37am
jonkranked wrote:
from the other site.... what appears to be the atherton 200g

from the other site.... what appears to be the atherton 200g

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interesting! they not only moved to gearbox/beltdrive but also to an hp/idler design. 

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Primoz
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1/15/2025 9:48am

It's a similar layout to the Pivot overall. 

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1/15/2025 9:49am
jonkranked wrote:
from the other site.... what appears to be the atherton 200g

from the other site.... what appears to be the atherton 200g

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amaranth wrote:

interesting! they not only moved to gearbox/beltdrive but also to an hp/idler design. 

still a dw6 apparently, which jives with the rumors. I'd assume the idler was a necessity due to suspension layout and the nature of a belt driven gearbox. 

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1/15/2025 10:06am Edited Date/Time 1/15/2025 10:08am

A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:

IMG 0895IMG 0896IMG 0897.png?VersionId=yvMgBJVGmMI qLh24oBo OIMG 0898

Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet

Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst

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1/15/2025 10:24am
TimBud wrote:
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yetSimilar to the Pivot but with added Horst

A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:

IMG 0895IMG 0896IMG 0897.png?VersionId=yvMgBJVGmMI qLh24oBo OIMG 0898

Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet

Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst

Interesting shock mounting position.

I LOVE to see the gearbox finally rising in the gravity bikes. It is going to be a real test this year, with many fast riders putting it on the limit..

BRB buying Pinion stock 🤣

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1/15/2025 10:44am
TimBud wrote:
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yetSimilar to the Pivot but with added Horst

A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:

IMG 0895IMG 0896IMG 0897.png?VersionId=yvMgBJVGmMI qLh24oBo OIMG 0898

Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet

Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst

IIRC the Pivot DH bike uses the flex of the stays to eliminate the pivot at the dropout. There is only a few degrees of movement there.

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1/15/2025 11:14am
TimBud wrote:
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yetSimilar to the Pivot but with added Horst

A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:

IMG 0895IMG 0896IMG 0897.png?VersionId=yvMgBJVGmMI qLh24oBo OIMG 0898

Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet

Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst

luckymixes wrote:
Interesting shock mounting position.I LOVE to see the gearbox finally rising in the gravity bikes. It is going to be a real test this year, with...

Interesting shock mounting position.

I LOVE to see the gearbox finally rising in the gravity bikes. It is going to be a real test this year, with many fast riders putting it on the limit..

BRB buying Pinion stock 🤣

that would be bombardier

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1/15/2025 11:19am
TimBud wrote:
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yetSimilar to the Pivot but with added Horst

A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:

IMG 0895IMG 0896IMG 0897.png?VersionId=yvMgBJVGmMI qLh24oBo OIMG 0898

Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet

Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst

What are the cranks? 🧐

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1/15/2025 11:23am
TimBud wrote:
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yetSimilar to the Pivot but with added Horst

A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:

IMG 0895IMG 0896IMG 0897.png?VersionId=yvMgBJVGmMI qLh24oBo OIMG 0898

Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet

Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst

Domo-Kun wrote:

What are the cranks? 🧐

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1/15/2025 11:26am

I like how the idler is tucked up nicely on the Atherton bike.

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1/15/2025 11:45am

Where's the alternator on that Atherton?

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1/15/2025 12:36pm

So are we calling Clipless pedals Clip pedals now?  

owl-x wrote:

We are now, still, yes. 

If no one said it so far, in Germany they call them “click”pedals…

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1/15/2025 12:43pm

If no one said it so far, in Germany they call them “click”pedals…

Same in Norway 

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1/15/2025 2:35pm
TimBud wrote:
A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yetSimilar to the Pivot but with added Horst

A few more shots grabbed from the Atherton’s insta:

IMG 0895IMG 0896IMG 0897.png?VersionId=yvMgBJVGmMI qLh24oBo OIMG 0898

Nothing super clear of the non-drive side yet

Similar to the Pivot but with added Horst

Domo-Kun wrote:

What are the cranks? 🧐

chriskief wrote:
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1/15/2025 3:26pm

You gave Pete a punch in the arm from Spearfish lately for me??  Thanks for popping in here! 

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1/15/2025 3:28pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2025 3:29pm

So are we calling Clipless pedals Clip pedals now?  

owl-x wrote:

We are now, still, yes. 

If no one said it so far, in Germany they call them “click”pedals…

That makes sense, German is a very literal language. 

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1/15/2025 3:37pm

Atherton on Pinion. Do we know what gear boxes the other 3 belt teams are using?

1/15/2025 3:42pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2025 3:43pm
SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. If the OneUp SPD's last...

SPD's belong in a hall of fame with Nokia 9210's and cast iron cookware, they'll survive the heat death of the universe. 

If the OneUp SPD's last even half as long as a shimano they'll be incredible 

Eisma wrote:
Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons...
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Must be coming soon. Landing page banner on their site. 

I think I'm the only one to not have Shimano pedals last forever. I get 1-2 seasons on them before the bearings are shot.

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Making me feel easy on stuff. I've somehow got a pair of Crank Bros mallet E's from 2016 that have seen 6 bikes and 8 seasons...

Making me feel easy on stuff. I've somehow got a pair of Crank Bros mallet E's from 2016 that have seen 6 bikes and 8 seasons of riding without ever even been taken apart or any service of any kind, I'm too scared to now to touch them now, it'll ruin them 😅. I feel like I'd be handing Shimano's down to my great grand kids.

I'll be interested as to how well the new One Up's hold up. I find their flats to be hit or miss and the service window is way to short for the average user. The 99% have no idea pedals need to be serviced over a 10 years, let alone 50h.I had a pair in my hands today and they looked solid, but hopefully they are a bit more robust than some of their alloy flats.

I wonder how it happens that everybody seems to be forgetting about the Chromag Pilots. They are my absolutely favourite Pedal out there because of their SPD compatibility and they last forever. The seals are amazing, the first pair now has 2 seasons on it with one containing pretty much daily riding in Whistler and they didn't develope any kind of play or roughness in the bearings. Having 2 pairs running on 2 bikes right now and so far the second pair keeps up with the first one, kind of a no brainer. You just hop on and they never disappoint. They roughly weight a 100 grams more than the OneUp's but that's worth it IMO as they re basically indestructible. And they look dope as well.

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1/15/2025 3:47pm
RaggedEdge wrote:

Atherton on Pinion. Do we know what gear boxes the other 3 belt teams are using?

They're using Pinion. 

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1/15/2025 4:37pm

Let’s be honest Rachel will make a comeback on the belt driven bike and snap up the $100k before anyone else 

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1/15/2025 5:06pm

I’ve got a fresh set of 155s sitting in my garage for my Kavenz VHP-G that is on the way.  😈

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Primoz wrote:

It's a similar layout to the Pivot overall. 

Just to confirm, is that another 2, HP/Idler bikes (Vampire, Atherton) to add to that list of "fad" bikes.....

Side note, I took delivery of a V2 Dreadnaught very recently, Absolute weapon, unless of course youre trying to pedal it up a hill, its just an excuse for better fitness.

 

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1/15/2025 10:10pm
peecee wrote:

Let’s be honest Rachel will make a comeback on the belt driven bike and snap up the $100k before anyone else 

It would be a solid ROI for her and the team.  If she put in a couple months of hard work, she could easily be battling for that win pretty early on in the season.  Its a pretty incredible incentive honestly, willing to bet the other 3 teams are questioning their investment to go after that prize.

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1/16/2025 12:30am
peecee wrote:

Let’s be honest Rachel will make a comeback on the belt driven bike and snap up the $100k before anyone else 

Onawalk wrote:
It would be a solid ROI for her and the team.  If she put in a couple months of hard work, she could easily be battling...

It would be a solid ROI for her and the team.  If she put in a couple months of hard work, she could easily be battling for that win pretty early on in the season.  Its a pretty incredible incentive honestly, willing to bet the other 3 teams are questioning their investment to go after that prize.

I can’t be the only one to hope the belted purse goes on at least into the 2026 season. All these gearbox teams pooping up have made the anticipation for this season so much stronger!

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1/16/2025 1:06am
Primoz wrote:

It's a similar layout to the Pivot overall. 

Onawalk wrote:
Just to confirm, is that another 2, HP/Idler bikes (Vampire, Atherton) to add to that list of "fad" bikes.....Side note, I took delivery of a V2...

Just to confirm, is that another 2, HP/Idler bikes (Vampire, Atherton) to add to that list of "fad" bikes.....

Side note, I took delivery of a V2 Dreadnaught very recently, Absolute weapon, unless of course youre trying to pedal it up a hill, its just an excuse for better fitness.

 

Vampire is not really a "fad" bike in the sense you're making it to be. Chris has a patent on multiple pivot locations and you get 3 bikes in one - classic low pivot, medium height and proper high pivot. 

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1/16/2025 1:06am

Those 100k Gates put up show one hell of a return on investment already🔥

(and they even didn't need to spend it yet)

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1/16/2025 1:19am
Primoz wrote:

It's a similar layout to the Pivot overall. 

Onawalk wrote:
Just to confirm, is that another 2, HP/Idler bikes (Vampire, Atherton) to add to that list of "fad" bikes.....Side note, I took delivery of a V2...

Just to confirm, is that another 2, HP/Idler bikes (Vampire, Atherton) to add to that list of "fad" bikes.....

Side note, I took delivery of a V2 Dreadnaught very recently, Absolute weapon, unless of course youre trying to pedal it up a hill, its just an excuse for better fitness.

 

Primoz wrote:
Vampire is not really a "fad" bike in the sense you're making it to be. Chris has a patent on multiple pivot locations and you get...

Vampire is not really a "fad" bike in the sense you're making it to be. Chris has a patent on multiple pivot locations and you get 3 bikes in one - classic low pivot, medium height and proper high pivot. 

That "patent" alone is the best justification to burn the US patent office to the ground.

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1/16/2025 3:30am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2025 3:30am
nsp234 wrote:

Those 100k Gates put up show one hell of a return on investment already🔥

(and they even didn't need to spend it yet)

I wonder if Pinion is sponsoring any of the teams running gearboxes also.

Potential 100k from gates + whatever sponsorship $ Pinion is putting up could be very attractive at a time when other sponsors are pulling back investments. 

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1/16/2025 5:04am
nsp234 wrote:

Those 100k Gates put up show one hell of a return on investment already🔥

(and they even didn't need to spend it yet)

I wonder if Pinion is sponsoring any of the teams running gearboxes also.Potential 100k from gates + whatever sponsorship $ Pinion is putting up could be...

I wonder if Pinion is sponsoring any of the teams running gearboxes also.

Potential 100k from gates + whatever sponsorship $ Pinion is putting up could be very attractive at a time when other sponsors are pulling back investments. 

Was kind of thinking the same thing, honestly the smartest move by Pinion may just be to not sponsor anyone and have the teams buy the product outright or just give them free product in exchange for a jersey logo? They are kind of forced to run the gearbox to take advantage of the belt and everyone already knows they are running Pinion so why pay to actually sponsor? 

Hard to transfer a Pinion sponsorship to customer sales as well since its not like a consumer is going to go out and buy a gearbox, its probably going to already be on a bike they buy. 

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1/16/2025 5:48am

Saw that the atherton gearbox proto has its top shock mount flipped. Kinematics effected by where the gearbox shifts the lower mount to ?
 

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