Intend built a coil shock a couple years ago with an adjustable coil in collaboration with a student's graduate engineering program. Very cool concept.
I always thought the name DB8 was funny considering the Mavens were released shortly after and also use mineral oil. My thought was: "sooo who's even debating anymore? That DB8 was short lived." Now I know who's still DB8-ing. 😭
Intend built a coil shock a couple years ago with an adjustable coil in collaboration with a student's graduate engineering program. Very cool concept.
according to Harz enduro in the comments, a german guy that makes heaps of video with all the small companies in germany "we might know more...
according to Harz enduro in the comments, a german guy that makes heaps of video with all the small companies in germany "we might know more wednesday" so let's see
Intend has a countdown on their instagram story today that will end the morning of November 13th so that seems to line up!
weird for sure, given the intended height ranges for it. I know adults that would fit the medium scout.
weird for sure, given the intended height ranges for it. I know adults that would fit the medium scout.
Actually quite nice they offer anything at all. I wish more brands would make bikes for...people on the edges of the size spectrum. I guess it's not the most profitable thing to do as a bike brand, in these times, but finding my 5'2'' wife a comfortable bike is actually pretty hard.
Actually quite nice they offer anything at all. I wish more brands would make bikes for...people on the edges of the size spectrum. I guess it's...
Actually quite nice they offer anything at all. I wish more brands would make bikes for...people on the edges of the size spectrum. I guess it's not the most profitable thing to do as a bike brand, in these times, but finding my 5'2'' wife a comfortable bike is actually pretty hard.
Not trying to sell anything here but RMB makes SM and XS bikes with smaller wheels, lower standover heights, and lightweight kinematics to favour lighter riders. Some brands do offer these bikes. 2021 Instinct SM in 27.5 size for ex (we offer a SM in 29 as well; it's own, distinct frame design).
weird for sure, given the intended height ranges for it. I know adults that would fit the medium scout.
weird for sure, given the intended height ranges for it. I know adults that would fit the medium scout.
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout. It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth...
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top sizes taken off. Im also wondering if the cascade link would still fit it cause it looks pretty much the same if you fit a medium or under.
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout. It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth...
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
I think for someone looking for a 27.5 bike that actually doesnt look too bad for the price. Shimano xt, DT swiss wheels, and marzocchi suspension. Might not be great value compared to some of the discounts but it isnt bad
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top...
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top sizes taken off. Im also wondering if the cascade link would still fit it cause it looks pretty much the same if you fit a medium or under.
different rocker link, but no specifics other than that.
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout. It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth...
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top...
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top sizes taken off. Im also wondering if the cascade link would still fit it cause it looks pretty much the same if you fit a medium or under.
I would guess that it has a higher initial and over all leverage ratio so you don't have to run the shock at super low pressures and can tune better using the rebound and compression adjustments.
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout. It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth...
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
I think for someone looking for a 27.5 bike that actually doesnt look too bad for the price. Shimano xt, DT swiss wheels, and marzocchi suspension...
I think for someone looking for a 27.5 bike that actually doesnt look too bad for the price. Shimano xt, DT swiss wheels, and marzocchi suspension. Might not be great value compared to some of the discounts but it isnt bad
Sure, but:
1. why not make a large then? They already have the tooling!
2. having sold a ton of "expensive" bikes to parents, I see this as a hard sell because the majority of parents are going to be cross shopping with things on discount as well as bikes they perceive as having an easier resell when their kid outgrows it. The true full suspension kids bikes seem to retain their value better than most comparable adult bikes, but I doubt an adult sized kids bike would in the same way. At my shop this thing would be going up against a ton of discounted bikes as well as the flooded used market - honestly a rough time to launch a premium youth bike at all, to be honest.
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout. It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth...
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
The Reaper 27.5 is indeed a XS Instinct Alloy frame, just rebranded. We did this to appeal to the kids market. I mean, who wouldn't want a bike with this saddle on it?
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout. It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth...
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top...
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top sizes taken off. Im also wondering if the cascade link would still fit it cause it looks pretty much the same if you fit a medium or under.
I would guess that it has a higher initial and over all leverage ratio so you don't have to run the shock at super low pressures...
I would guess that it has a higher initial and over all leverage ratio so you don't have to run the shock at super low pressures and can tune better using the rebound and compression adjustments.
It even says in the main article " XS (tested), Small and Medium (cough, cough, slalom anyone?) sizes ". That higher leverage is also good for bottom out right? So it could make it a fun slalom or slopeduro build.
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top...
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top sizes taken off. Im also wondering if the cascade link would still fit it cause it looks pretty much the same if you fit a medium or under.
By all appearances, it is the exact same frame as the previous "adult" Scout with a linkage that has been tweaked to provide 150 mm of travel with a 57.5 mm stroke as opposed to 62.5 mm. So I'm 99% sure the link would still fit and have the exact same specifications for a given shock stroke.
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout. It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth...
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
The Reaper 27.5 is indeed a XS Instinct Alloy frame, just rebranded. We did this to appeal to the kids market. I mean, who wouldn't want...
The Reaper 27.5 is indeed a XS Instinct Alloy frame, just rebranded. We did this to appeal to the kids market. I mean, who wouldn't want a bike with this saddle on it?
TIL, all these years I thought it was the last vestige of the Thunderbolt living on! Cheers Ken, should have worked a bit harder on the PK day.
So long as it's in moderation. The mineral oil is a known laxative!
wasn't it on one of the Trickstuff Trick Staff bike checks? all links lead to nothing now since they rebuilt the website
I always thought the name DB8 was funny considering the Mavens were released shortly after and also use mineral oil. My thought was: "sooo who's even debating anymore? That DB8 was short lived." Now I know who's still DB8-ing. 😭
That sounds right.
Intend has a countdown on their instagram story today that will end the morning of November 13th so that seems to line up!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CyvLifFt6Jp/?igsh=MWZxY3o4N3FrcXdsZg==
Found! It was on the Rides of Trickstuff #8
No full review but the pics are here
Well done!
New shock from Intend looks very different. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Looks like we have been fooled. They announced new stem, rocksteady V2 cranks, and blackline forks in stock. But no new of coil shock
That coil shock gives me some serious CC Tigon vibes.
The Scout is a kids bike now.
Refreshed kids bikes from Transition too.
https://www.transitionbikes.com/Bikes_Scout.cfm
I wouldn’t say that. Don’t know many kids on a 460 reach bike. Weird way to do that
weird for sure, given the intended height ranges for it. I know adults that would fit the medium scout.
They’re listing it in their “Youth” section alongside the Bandit and Ripcord.
Teens and tweens are kids too. 😉
I'm a 5'9" kid too, at 41yo, a lil overweight for that lightweight rider kinematic layout thou
Actually quite nice they offer anything at all. I wish more brands would make bikes for...people on the edges of the size spectrum. I guess it's not the most profitable thing to do as a bike brand, in these times, but finding my 5'2'' wife a comfortable bike is actually pretty hard.
probably not going to be as applicable for MTB purposes, but I'm always interested in seeing new / different ways for freehubs to engage
https://bikerumor.com/lauf-rear-hub-patent-design/
Interesting, reminds me of the LoopsDrive concept (aside from where it's housed):
https://bikerumor.com/soul-kozak-loopsdrive-crafts-ultra-high-poe-tensi…
Not trying to sell anything here but RMB makes SM and XS bikes with smaller wheels, lower standover heights, and lightweight kinematics to favour lighter riders. Some brands do offer these bikes. 2021 Instinct SM in 27.5 size for ex (we offer a SM in 29 as well; it's own, distinct frame design).
What else could it be with that nipple sticking out of the main body? surely cant be an IFP port.
Yes, only the majority of humans on earth would fit on a Scout.
It's a bit strange, you see other brands like Norco with the sight youth offering it in a one-size, likewise with Rocky with the youth Reaper (you can't tell me that renamed thunderbolt is the same model as the other reaper, Ken!). Transition has gone seemingly all-in on this one, offering three distinct frame sizes to cover all the possible "youth" sizes.
I'm honestly a bit baffled that the medium exists at all when that rider is clearly in regular-bike territory. Why is a parent buying this "youth bike" new in medium for $4,500 when, at that pricepoint (or less), the market is flooded with new, new-discounted, and used models that should work just as well? They obviously felt they wouldn't sell enough 27.5 bikes in large to add another size and call it a not-youth bike, so why do they think the medium will work? It's strange!
Does anyone know exactly what they did to kinematics? Looking at the geo it is actually the same as the old scout but with the top sizes taken off. Im also wondering if the cascade link would still fit it cause it looks pretty much the same if you fit a medium or under.
I think for someone looking for a 27.5 bike that actually doesnt look too bad for the price. Shimano xt, DT swiss wheels, and marzocchi suspension. Might not be great value compared to some of the discounts but it isnt bad
different rocker link, but no specifics other than that.
feature is on homepage
I would guess that it has a higher initial and over all leverage ratio so you don't have to run the shock at super low pressures and can tune better using the rebound and compression adjustments.
Sure, but:
1. why not make a large then? They already have the tooling!
2. having sold a ton of "expensive" bikes to parents, I see this as a hard sell because the majority of parents are going to be cross shopping with things on discount as well as bikes they perceive as having an easier resell when their kid outgrows it. The true full suspension kids bikes seem to retain their value better than most comparable adult bikes, but I doubt an adult sized kids bike would in the same way. At my shop this thing would be going up against a ton of discounted bikes as well as the flooded used market - honestly a rough time to launch a premium youth bike at all, to be honest.
The Reaper 27.5 is indeed a XS Instinct Alloy frame, just rebranded. We did this to appeal to the kids market. I mean, who wouldn't want a bike with this saddle on it?
It even says in the main article " XS (tested), Small and Medium (cough, cough, slalom anyone?) sizes ". That higher leverage is also good for bottom out right? So it could make it a fun slalom or slopeduro build.
By all appearances, it is the exact same frame as the previous "adult" Scout with a linkage that has been tweaked to provide 150 mm of travel with a 57.5 mm stroke as opposed to 62.5 mm. So I'm 99% sure the link would still fit and have the exact same specifications for a given shock stroke.
TIL, all these years I thought it was the last vestige of the Thunderbolt living on! Cheers Ken, should have worked a bit harder on the PK day.