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Theoretically, slide better under side loading especially deep into the stroke.

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i had been wondering what happened with them, Nicolai is the only company that has brought that to market. 

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and Nicolai no longer produces Lal bikes after some problems with Lal

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JVP wrote:

We’ll need a Dorado - Vaia shootout. Lots of similarities on paper. 

DorianKane wrote:

The Vaia features floating bushings. That should make the biggest differnce other then ridefeel. Would be interesting for sure!

I might have missed that - what would floating bushes do for the Vaia’s feel and performance? 

Less binding. Alignment stays true through out the travel, in theory.

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and Nicolai no longer produces Lal bikes after some problems with Lal

Yeah I noticed that on the website a bit ago, anybody know why this happened? They're only selling a udh version.

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Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat? Or maybe just a more obscure model/brand?

With the official death of the Scout, it's interesting to watch them drop like flies. It's kinda like NHLers still allowed to play without a visor. There's like 5 or less left. Slowly but surely lol

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LePigPen wrote:
Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat...

Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat? Or maybe just a more obscure model/brand?

With the official death of the Scout, it's interesting to watch them drop like flies. It's kinda like NHLers still allowed to play without a visor. There's like 5 or less left. Slowly but surely lol

sb140 27.5 got replaced by the 135, nothing new coming

11/9/2024 1:16am

and Nicolai no longer produces Lal bikes after some problems with Lal

What problems with Lal? With the drivetrain, which seems pretty bombproof, or with the inventor, who seems a pretty nice guy? Smile

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and Nicolai no longer produces Lal bikes after some problems with Lal

What problems with Lal? With the drivetrain, which seems pretty bombproof, or with the inventor, who seems a pretty nice guy? Smile

Aston lists some of the problems in his review

https://www.astonmtb.bike/reviews/nicolai-nucleon-supre-drive

I disagree with him on many things regarding bicycles, but what he lists here seem like valid first generation product issues that need to be fixed for it to become a more widespread alternative to existing drivetrains. 

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LePigPen wrote:
Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat...

Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat? Or maybe just a more obscure model/brand?

With the official death of the Scout, it's interesting to watch them drop like flies. It's kinda like NHLers still allowed to play without a visor. There's like 5 or less left. Slowly but surely lol

Evil96 wrote:

sb140 27.5 got replaced by the 135, nothing new coming

Zink Bikes is dropping a new 27.5” model, I have no clue on geo and specs but this is what I’ve gleamed from ocbikeworks on Insta so far. “150 travel and it’s possible to run 26” in the back, but all the material shared with us suggests it’s meant for 27.5 without any mods. $1650 retail for the frame.”  And like all shops they hook up the discount on parts to build it up.  Has me intrigued for sure. 

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LePigPen wrote:
Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat...

Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat? Or maybe just a more obscure model/brand?

With the official death of the Scout, it's interesting to watch them drop like flies. It's kinda like NHLers still allowed to play without a visor. There's like 5 or less left. Slowly but surely lol

For heavens sake,

You can literally put a 275 front wheel on any MX bike, with worst case Scenario, add 10mm travel to the fork.  

Or silver lining the damn thing, and be stoked that theres prolly gonna be a load of bargain priced used 275 bikes out there.

 

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LePigPen wrote:
Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat...

Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat? Or maybe just a more obscure model/brand?

With the official death of the Scout, it's interesting to watch them drop like flies. It's kinda like NHLers still allowed to play without a visor. There's like 5 or less left. Slowly but surely lol

Onawalk wrote:
For heavens sake,You can literally put a 275 front wheel on any MX bike, with worst case Scenario, add 10mm travel to the fork.  Or silver...

For heavens sake,

You can literally put a 275 front wheel on any MX bike, with worst case Scenario, add 10mm travel to the fork.  

Or silver lining the damn thing, and be stoked that theres prolly gonna be a load of bargain priced used 275 bikes out there.

 

It was just a question.

I will stop asking questions.

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and Nicolai no longer produces Lal bikes after some problems with Lal

What problems with Lal? With the drivetrain, which seems pretty bombproof, or with the inventor, who seems a pretty nice guy? Smile

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Aston lists some of the problems in his reviewhttps://www.astonmtb.bike/reviews/nicolai-nucleon-supre-driveI disagree with him on many things regarding bicycles, but what he lists here seem like...

Aston lists some of the problems in his review

https://www.astonmtb.bike/reviews/nicolai-nucleon-supre-drive

I disagree with him on many things regarding bicycles, but what he lists here seem like valid first generation product issues that need to be fixed for it to become a more widespread alternative to existing drivetrains. 

Its an incredible looking bike, Id have one hanging on my wall yesterday if I could convince myself that its just like buying art.

I have an enormous amount of respect for what Lal is trying to achieve, and commend Nicolai for pushing ti to market.   

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LePigPen wrote:
Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat...

Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat? Or maybe just a more obscure model/brand?

With the official death of the Scout, it's interesting to watch them drop like flies. It's kinda like NHLers still allowed to play without a visor. There's like 5 or less left. Slowly but surely lol

Onawalk wrote:
For heavens sake,You can literally put a 275 front wheel on any MX bike, with worst case Scenario, add 10mm travel to the fork.  Or silver...

For heavens sake,

You can literally put a 275 front wheel on any MX bike, with worst case Scenario, add 10mm travel to the fork.  

Or silver lining the damn thing, and be stoked that theres prolly gonna be a load of bargain priced used 275 bikes out there.

 

LePigPen wrote:

It was just a question.

I will stop asking questions.

https://www.vitalmtb.com/community/martinzone/knolly-endorphin-g6-27-5

Heres a brand new model, run it dual 275 all day......  Cool friggin Knolly, 

Every MX bike, is just a way for the companies to actually sell a 275 bike, thats all they are.  They are throwing lifelines to people who want 275 bikes, but nothing but gripes how the industry abandons it.....

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Any idea when these are dropping?

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11/9/2024 9:35pm Edited Date/Time 11/9/2024 9:36pm
cmaac wrote:
Any idea when these are dropping?

Any idea when these are dropping?

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Have to be quite close to release now, saw them on Danny Hart's Fury at the beginning of the season. Those also look very well polished and ready for launch. Haven't heard any actual news on them though.

EDIT: Minnear also may have said something about these releasing at some point soon on the new PB Podcast ep, can't be sure tho

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cmaac wrote:
Any idea when these are dropping?

Any idea when these are dropping?

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according to the latest podcast from the red site "Soon"

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https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

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Fred_Pop wrote:
https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speedCame across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try...

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

It's lucky the shock has "rear shock" written on it, someone could have got hurt otherwise...

No idea what "center distance" is supposed to mean.  The closest measurement I can think of is front centre but that would limit it to pretty small modern frames (my XL frame with a 180 mm fork has an 880 mm front centre) so who knows.

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Should be called Hawk2a

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Fred_Pop wrote:
https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speedCame across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try...

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

Im curious if youd have any clearance for a 29er in the front or if your gonna smash your wheel into that bottom crown when you bottom out. They have a 203mm version as well with a progressive spring. 

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For all the people questioning why front 27.5 dying it’s simply a question of the direction the major parts suppliers commited to heading.  Simply they want to commit to 27.5 front for kids market only.  Meaning they only need to produce 29 front wheels/forks for the adult market. And while I fully expect brands to design frames to accept 29er forks with 27.5 wheels as the stock setup in adult sizes in conservative production runs in the future.   The vast majority of bike brands had already committed to 29 front before manufacturers started telling them they were going to wind down availability.  And I’d imagine if tire buzz wasn’t such an issue for such a large portion of riders the parts manufacturers would be pushing more brands to commit to full 29 across sizes. But luckily enough riders are demanding the smaller rear wheel that frame builders and part suppliers see the mullet option as indispensable.


27.5 wheel in 29er fork works just fine.  Might even be preferable to a 27.5 in a 27.5 if you like the extra axle to crown.  But assuming you are putting a 27.5 wheel in front to improve maneuverability at the cost of braking/rolling speed rather than that’s the wheel you have then the shorter axle to crown for travel and reduced offset of a dedicated 27.5 fork is going to increase that maneuverability further.

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For all the people questioning why front 27.5 dying it’s simply a question of the direction the major parts suppliers commited to heading.  Simply they want...

For all the people questioning why front 27.5 dying it’s simply a question of the direction the major parts suppliers commited to heading.  Simply they want to commit to 27.5 front for kids market only.  Meaning they only need to produce 29 front wheels/forks for the adult market. And while I fully expect brands to design frames to accept 29er forks with 27.5 wheels as the stock setup in adult sizes in conservative production runs in the future.   The vast majority of bike brands had already committed to 29 front before manufacturers started telling them they were going to wind down availability.  And I’d imagine if tire buzz wasn’t such an issue for such a large portion of riders the parts manufacturers would be pushing more brands to commit to full 29 across sizes. But luckily enough riders are demanding the smaller rear wheel that frame builders and part suppliers see the mullet option as indispensable.


27.5 wheel in 29er fork works just fine.  Might even be preferable to a 27.5 in a 27.5 if you like the extra axle to crown.  But assuming you are putting a 27.5 wheel in front to improve maneuverability at the cost of braking/rolling speed rather than that’s the wheel you have then the shorter axle to crown for travel and reduced offset of a dedicated 27.5 fork is going to increase that maneuverability further.

I think it also probably also has alot to do with what the racers are riding. Racing seems to get more exposure then freeride so its better marketing. Dont get me wrong, there are still alot of people who want full 27.5 but alot of people are going to by mullet just because its what (insert favorite pro racer name here) is riding

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Fred_Pop wrote:
https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speedCame across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try...

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

MauiMax wrote:
Im curious if youd have any clearance for a 29er in the front or if your gonna smash your wheel into that bottom crown when you...

Im curious if youd have any clearance for a 29er in the front or if your gonna smash your wheel into that bottom crown when you bottom out. They have a 203mm version as well with a progressive spring. 

The 228mm travel fork is supposed to be compatible with bigger wheels whereas the 203mm one is only for smaller 559mm (26in) wheels

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Fred_Pop wrote:
https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speedCame across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try...

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

No offense, but my hunch is that a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons probably rides like a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons. If you want to jump on that grenade to find out for the rest of us, I salute you, but I don't imagine RFloXa is killing themselves to sort out the finer points of suspension dynamics for the mostly beginner, mostly pavement-pounder Surron market in the same way that Fox, RS, EXT, or others in the high-end MTB space do.

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Fred_Pop wrote:
https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speedCame across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try...

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:
No offense, but my hunch is that a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons probably rides like a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons. If you...

No offense, but my hunch is that a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons probably rides like a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons. If you want to jump on that grenade to find out for the rest of us, I salute you, but I don't imagine RFloXa is killing themselves to sort out the finer points of suspension dynamics for the mostly beginner, mostly pavement-pounder Surron market in the same way that Fox, RS, EXT, or others in the high-end MTB space do.

But more travel = better right?

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LePigPen wrote:
Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat...

Don't wanna make a new thread, but did want to ask just for fun. Which dual 27 model is next on the chopping block? SB140? Shadowcat? Or maybe just a more obscure model/brand?

With the official death of the Scout, it's interesting to watch them drop like flies. It's kinda like NHLers still allowed to play without a visor. There's like 5 or less left. Slowly but surely lol

Evil96 wrote:

sb140 27.5 got replaced by the 135, nothing new coming

Zink Bikes is dropping a new 27.5” model, I have no clue on geo and specs but this is what I’ve gleamed from ocbikeworks on Insta...

Zink Bikes is dropping a new 27.5” model, I have no clue on geo and specs but this is what I’ve gleamed from ocbikeworks on Insta so far. “150 travel and it’s possible to run 26” in the back, but all the material shared with us suggests it’s meant for 27.5 without any mods. $1650 retail for the frame.”  And like all shops they hook up the discount on parts to build it up.  Has me intrigued for sure. 

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I cannot wait for this.  This is what we need 

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Fred_Pop wrote:
https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speedCame across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try...

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:
No offense, but my hunch is that a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons probably rides like a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons. If you...

No offense, but my hunch is that a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons probably rides like a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons. If you want to jump on that grenade to find out for the rest of us, I salute you, but I don't imagine RFloXa is killing themselves to sort out the finer points of suspension dynamics for the mostly beginner, mostly pavement-pounder Surron market in the same way that Fox, RS, EXT, or others in the high-end MTB space do.

The first thing I did was scroll to the bottom of the page to find out where the company's based.  Your first guess is correct.

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Fred_Pop wrote:
https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speedCame across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try...

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/front-forks/products/rfloxa-hawk31pro-fcg31rvp-pro-228mm-travel-front-fork-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee-eride-pro-ss-spring-preload-high-and-low-speed

Came across this on youtube. Made for Surrons but compatible with DH bikes. Price seems nice for the features it provides. I'd love to try a 228mm USD DH fork. Weight is probably over 4kg but whatever. Not quite sure what they mean by center distance as it seems way longer than fork height. Only problem I see is figuring out what spring rate to get.

 

https://www.rflo-xa.com/collections/rear-shocks/products/rfloxa-rab53rv-rear-shock-for-surron-talaria-sting-light-bee

Their high end rear shock also looks sweet for the price. Even comes in 240x76mm which is what I run on my bike. 

That website is pure GOLD 

"where recoil meets luxury"

"Use Youtube influencers code to get what you want! (PS:RFloXa  /ˈriːˌfloˌsɑː/)" -The phonetic spelling there seems to make it less clear how to say the name but will we see a wave of people running them on instagram and youtube soon?

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