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Simcik
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Can confirm. Some 50+ person in my condo building has a Rail parked in the bike stand. I thought the Powerfly was to cater to that...

Can confirm. Some 50+ person in my condo building has a Rail parked in the bike stand. I thought the Powerfly was to cater to that market though?

Be cautious in this group talking sh!t on riders in their 50s. There are a few in this forum who absolutely rip... Wink

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10/2/2024 6:37am

New Sunn emtb line added to the CX release bus :

 

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To be entirely clear, I wasnt complaining about a size - I actually went out of my way to say its silly to say a “size”...

To be entirely clear, I wasnt complaining about a size - I actually went out of my way to say its silly to say a “size” is wrong, its as I said earlier and zesty just repeated, its the gap between sizes in this case that is the problem. You say that all of us should know what we prefer and i would agree with you - but the real world problem is when someone who doesn’t know what they should be on rolls into their local trek dealer  (that’s ran by track cyclist that have no care in the world for those dirt bag mtb riders that walk into the store!) and then they sell them on a bike that is either too big or too small, all because they fit perfectly into that trek sizing scale but the gap between sizes is hugggge! Each of those outcomes can have negative effects, especially for a “novice.” . Fast forward 3 weeks and you bump into them at the trail head, covered in elbow pads, sporting some nasty grazes, with 60mm of spacers under their stem to get that fitment just right. If there were smaller increments this issues wouldn’t be such an issue.
If you want to make a small with 550mm reach go for it! Just make sure there’s an extra extra small with a 475mm reach in the line up aswell.

I'd be willing to bet the smaller increments (and hence perfectly sized/fitted bike) would not stop said person from crashing Wink

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1llumA wrote:
SoHorst Link = Crab LinkLinkage Driven Single Pivot = Faux Crab LinkHigh Pivot = Spider Crab LinkSingle Pivot = Rock Crab LinkVPP & DW = Blue...

So

Horst Link = Crab Link

Linkage Driven Single Pivot = Faux Crab Link

High Pivot = Spider Crab Link

Single Pivot = Rock Crab Link

VPP & DW = Blue crab Link

Hardtail = Lobster

That is far more eloquent and clear than I could ever hope to express it. Truly an artist with words. 

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10/2/2024 8:11am

And then, there's this. 

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Full release here : 

https://www.mtb-news.de/news/haibike-e-bike-neuheiten-2025/

 

I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport more accessible to newcomers -and hats off to Haibike for taking the chance. But GOD MY HEAD HURTS

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Nico_Hrndz wrote:
And then, there's this. Full release here : https://www.mtb-news.de/news/haibike-e-bike-neuheiten-2025/ I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport...

And then, there's this. 

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Full release here : 

https://www.mtb-news.de/news/haibike-e-bike-neuheiten-2025/

 

I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport more accessible to newcomers -and hats off to Haibike for taking the chance. But GOD MY HEAD HURTS

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Nico_Hrndz wrote:
And then, there's this. Full release here : https://www.mtb-news.de/news/haibike-e-bike-neuheiten-2025/ I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport...

And then, there's this. 

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Full release here : 

https://www.mtb-news.de/news/haibike-e-bike-neuheiten-2025/

 

I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport more accessible to newcomers -and hats off to Haibike for taking the chance. But GOD MY HEAD HURTS

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10/2/2024 9:30am

I already have the marketing figured out.... "Buy this awesome bike and you too can have C.R.A.B.S." "Don't be the only kid in town without C.R.A.B.S. when you hit the trails"

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dolface wrote:

All hail TEAM ROBOT CRAB

Broil Yourself

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That's a proper moped.

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Nico_Hrndz wrote:
New Sunn emtb line added to the CX release bus : 

New Sunn emtb line added to the CX release bus :

 

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I think you meant to say "New Crablink Sunn emtb line"

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10/2/2024 10:34am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2024 10:35am
Nico_Hrndz wrote:
And then, there's this. Full release here : https://www.mtb-news.de/news/haibike-e-bike-neuheiten-2025/ I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport...

And then, there's this. 

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Full release here : 

https://www.mtb-news.de/news/haibike-e-bike-neuheiten-2025/

 

I'm aware there is actually a growing market for these kind of frames, as emtb makes the sport more accessible to newcomers -and hats off to Haibike for taking the chance. But GOD MY HEAD HURTS

This is obviously an abomination, the worst thing my eyes have beheld since the RedAlp. But you gotta hand it to Haibike, they know their customer and they know where their bread gets buttered. They're the Skechers of the bike world.

Skechers Men's Gowalk 6 Slip-On Sneaker Black 8

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the varying weights of crabs may shock you.

world cup DH bike weights.

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god I love the f*ck out of the forum.

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10/2/2024 11:03am

Unpopular opinion:

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Simcik
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10/2/2024 11:05am
sspomer wrote:

the varying weights of crabs may shock you.

world cup DH bike weights.

Who is going to compare different bike weights/costs to crab cost per pound? See which offers the better deal...

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Simcik
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Unpopular opinion:

Unpopular opinion:

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This guy with the artificial hip (while not 50 yet) also rips. Even if he now requires a step through frame apparently 

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10/2/2024 11:15am
sspomer wrote:

the varying weights of crabs may shock you.

world cup DH bike weights.

That Norco plus 5 lbs is my eCRAB. Doesn't seem like a big penalty to get me up the hill fast and more runs down.

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Forum - Marauder - (3.2) Crab People,Crab People! - Full Physical Sunder Jugg - [Stun, 75% Bleed ...

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10/2/2024 11:34am

Taste like crab talk like people!

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10/2/2024 12:08pm

Question, does anyone know what a tuned mass damper would do for a hardtail? Or a full suspension XC bike? Like does this positively effect a bike more if it has more or less travel? 

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kcyeeto
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10/2/2024 12:16pm

There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High Roller that's working it's way over to the DHR and Assegai?

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TEAMROBOT wrote:

Forum - Marauder - (3.2) Crab People,Crab People! - Full Physical Sunder Jugg - [Stun, 75% Bleed ...

Team Crab-bot Pinches your face.

I'll take that t-shirt in XL, please.

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10/2/2024 12:47pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2024 12:50pm

This is where we're at right now. Thanks guys. 

Now as for that Haibike? I've seen worse. Looks better than the advent of FS-Ebikes from iZip and the like. I figure we're in the e-bike equivalent of the regular-bike y-frame era at the moment.

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Nico_Hrndz wrote:

This might be the most unexciting bike I've seen in ages

gibbon wrote:
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Is it wrong that I think this is more interesting than the Rail? 100% functional commute up to the office, reasonable amounts of fun on blue trails home. Now granted there's not a ton of people in my work-office situation... 

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10/2/2024 12:58pm

the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and a ziptied milk crate on the front or back rack?

Pot holes are rough, man.

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kcyeeto wrote:
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High...

There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High Roller that's working it's way over to the DHR and Assegai?

That exact prototype tire with ZK tech has been around since 2021. Just another layer of tread protection for the pro race runs. The only production tire that uses it is the Maxxis High Road. 

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10/2/2024 1:16pm
kcyeeto wrote:
There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High...

There's a ZK logo on the Maxxis hot patch on Minaar's tire or one of the Norco bikes in that tech vid. New stuff from High Roller that's working it's way over to the DHR and Assegai?

sprungmass wrote:
That exact prototype tire with ZK tech has been around since 2021. Just another layer of tread protection for the pro race runs. The only production...

That exact prototype tire with ZK tech has been around since 2021. Just another layer of tread protection for the pro race runs. The only production tire that uses it is the Maxxis High Road. 

@sprungmass is correct. It's a lightweight puncture resistant material used underneath the tread - aka a "breaker" layer. 

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10/2/2024 1:36pm
ctbiker888 wrote:
the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and...

the eSUV market is an interesting one, a fully equipped FS bike with rack/fenders... What ever happened to a 90's hard tail with thick slicks and a ziptied milk crate on the front or back rack?

Pot holes are rough, man.

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As the expected range on these things continues to creep up, they become more and more compelling. 

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I'm honestly shocked the Pivot was the lightest DH bike they weighed by nearly 3lbs.  

Shame on Mondraker for denying the scale!  

That Haibike looks like an AliExpress Unno.

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