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Murph
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4/16/2024 10:51am
Murph wrote:
Based on the filter on the Telum page, it looks like it’ll be $1,380 CAD or $1,000 USD. Interested to see if they offer a tuned...

Based on the filter on the Telum page, it looks like it’ll be $1,380 CAD or $1,000 USD. Interested to see if they offer a tuned shock like EXT and Push. 
 

Also interesting to see they seem to have partnered with sprindex to be their spring supplier. 

DServy wrote:
Interesting they are pricing it against the likes of EXT. I've always been a big fan of both EXT and Vorsprung, so it will be interesting...

Interesting they are pricing it against the likes of EXT. I've always been a big fan of both EXT and Vorsprung, so it will be interesting to see how they both compare at this price point.

I also heard Motion Instruments is releasing during sea otter as well, so that's going to be interesting for the suspension nerds among us. 

Did you hear new hardware or software they are releasing from Motion Instruments? I've noticed they have been back on IG.  They were silent from July...

Did you hear new hardware or software they are releasing from Motion Instruments?

I've noticed they have been back on IG.  They were silent from July to Feb and now 5 random throwback photos posted in the last 2 weeks.

At a minimum it looks like new hardware that is more robust and does better in wet conditions, at least based on this post. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3-kWsExXEB/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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4/16/2024 12:42pm
DServy wrote:
Interesting they are pricing it against the likes of EXT. I've always been a big fan of both EXT and Vorsprung, so it will be interesting...

Interesting they are pricing it against the likes of EXT. I've always been a big fan of both EXT and Vorsprung, so it will be interesting to see how they both compare at this price point.

I also heard Motion Instruments is releasing during sea otter as well, so that's going to be interesting for the suspension nerds among us. 

Did you hear new hardware or software they are releasing from Motion Instruments? I've noticed they have been back on IG.  They were silent from July...

Did you hear new hardware or software they are releasing from Motion Instruments?

I've noticed they have been back on IG.  They were silent from July to Feb and now 5 random throwback photos posted in the last 2 weeks.

Murph wrote:

At a minimum it looks like new hardware that is more robust and does better in wet conditions, at least based on this post. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3-kWsExXEB/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

I'd settle for them re-releasing the location and time stamping handlebar button and actually staying in business so I can buy a sensor that fits my Dorado!

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4/16/2024 1:00pm

The YT prototype without the cover on Chris Cummings vlog with Oisin 

 

 

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PisgahGnar
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Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.
 

 

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PisgahGnar wrote:
Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.    

Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.
 

 

Fox is having a hard time getting stock, maybe? 

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isack
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4/16/2024 2:02pm
PisgahGnar wrote:
Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.    

Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.
 

 

Renthal bar and stem. Video is 4+ years old.

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PisgahGnar
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4/16/2024 2:08pm
PisgahGnar wrote:
Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.    

Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.
 

 

isack wrote:
Renthal bar and stem. Video is 4+ years old.

Renthal bar and stem. Video is 4+ years old.

You are totally right. And I just took a look at the linkage, sb150 for sure. Now why did Richie just post this???? Just some bar drags like Matt Hunter for the gram I guess. 

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C-LION
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4/16/2024 2:10pm
The YT prototype without the cover on Chris Cummings vlog with Oisin     

The YT prototype without the cover on Chris Cummings vlog with Oisin 

 

 

Looks like…the current Tues 😅😂 Seriously though, what did they cover? Looking forward to seeing more details. 

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4/16/2024 2:52pm
Murph wrote:
Based on the filter on the Telum page, it looks like it’ll be $1,380 CAD or $1,000 USD. Interested to see if they offer a tuned...

Based on the filter on the Telum page, it looks like it’ll be $1,380 CAD or $1,000 USD. Interested to see if they offer a tuned shock like EXT and Push. 
 

Also interesting to see they seem to have partnered with sprindex to be their spring supplier. 

DServy wrote:
Interesting they are pricing it against the likes of EXT. I've always been a big fan of both EXT and Vorsprung, so it will be interesting...

Interesting they are pricing it against the likes of EXT. I've always been a big fan of both EXT and Vorsprung, so it will be interesting to see how they both compare at this price point.

I also heard Motion Instruments is releasing during sea otter as well, so that's going to be interesting for the suspension nerds among us. 

Did you hear new hardware or software they are releasing from Motion Instruments? I've noticed they have been back on IG.  They were silent from July...

Did you hear new hardware or software they are releasing from Motion Instruments?

I've noticed they have been back on IG.  They were silent from July to Feb and now 5 random throwback photos posted in the last 2 weeks.

Motion Instruments have been really good at constantly updating their current software, even when they seem pretty quiet there seems to be stuff happening. The app gets very frequent updates with new features and bug fixes and they finally added android support too! I've had the impression there was hardware expansion being worked on but I don't know exactly what the plan is

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4/16/2024 4:04pm
DirkT wrote:
What's going on with the fork here?  From Pinkbike XC coverage.

What's going on with the fork here?  From Pinkbike XC coverage.

I spy a new tire

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4/16/2024 4:26pm
DirkT wrote:
What's going on with the fork here?  From Pinkbike XC coverage.

What's going on with the fork here?  From Pinkbike XC coverage.

I spy a new tire

2.5 inch "Captain"

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Fantaman
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Beringer the motorcycle brake brand out of France known for their high end brake systems for motorcycles has stepped into the mtb market, these brakes are CNC machined that are made in house in their factory in France. They are not cheap they start at €999  & €1199 for the custom option.

https://www.ride-beringer.com/components/en/content/10-br4ve-braking-system

 

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krabo83
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4/16/2024 11:17pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2024 11:56pm
PisgahGnar wrote:
Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.    

Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.
 

 

that‘s on old picture from around 2019/2020… old 36 factory, renthal bars (which yeti isn‘t using for years now), ion kneepads and a SB150/SB165.

 

edit: ok, some already pointed that out Smile

4/17/2024 7:56am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2024 8:00am
PisgahGnar wrote:
Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.    

Is Richie on a fork with an old crown? Or new is now old again.
 

 

isack wrote:
Renthal bar and stem. Video is 4+ years old.

Renthal bar and stem. Video is 4+ years old.

PisgahGnar wrote:
You are totally right. And I just took a look at the linkage, sb150 for sure. Now why did Richie just post this???? Just some bar...

You are totally right. And I just took a look at the linkage, sb150 for sure. Now why did Richie just post this???? Just some bar drags like Matt Hunter for the gram I guess. 

Jubal Davis posted a video of him bardragging that same corner on the new SB165, Richie responded with that in reference to same corner but on the old 165. 

 

Edit: looks like Richie reposted it with a bit more context:

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PisgahGnar
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isack wrote:
Renthal bar and stem. Video is 4+ years old.

Renthal bar and stem. Video is 4+ years old.

PisgahGnar wrote:
You are totally right. And I just took a look at the linkage, sb150 for sure. Now why did Richie just post this???? Just some bar...

You are totally right. And I just took a look at the linkage, sb150 for sure. Now why did Richie just post this???? Just some bar drags like Matt Hunter for the gram I guess. 

Poleczechy wrote:
Jubal Davis posted a video of him bardragging that same corner on the new SB165, Richie responded with that in reference to same corner but on...

Jubal Davis posted a video of him bardragging that same corner on the new SB165, Richie responded with that in reference to same corner but on the old 165. 

 

Edit: looks like Richie reposted it with a bit more context:

Thanks! And it's the same Matt Hunter corner: Matt Hunter Broke Your Photoshop - Warning: Extreme Bar Drag Content -  sspomer - Mountain Biking Videos - Vital MTB

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Shinook
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4/17/2024 8:47am
Fantaman wrote:
Beringer the motorcycle brake brand out of France known for their high end brake systems for motorcycles has stepped into the mtb market, these brakes are...

Beringer the motorcycle brake brand out of France known for their high end brake systems for motorcycles has stepped into the mtb market, these brakes are CNC machined that are made in house in their factory in France. They are not cheap they start at €999  & €1199 for the custom option.

https://www.ride-beringer.com/components/en/content/10-br4ve-braking-system

 

These look really interesting, the rods they use to guide the pads seem interesting, but does seem to require you use their pads. No info on piston sizes or lever feel though. 

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Eae903
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Is this a new Process from Kona?! Looks like an X but different rocker and slimmer around the ST/TT junction, maybe?

Is this a new Process from Kona?! Looks like an X but different rocker and slimmer around the ST/TT junction, maybe?

Looks interesting. Bummed Kona isn’t going to HP. I was in their HQ the other day, super cool dudes. 

Why be bummed that it isn't going HP? The current Process X is rad, fast, and comfortable to ride. I don't think adding the complication of the HP and idler would really do anything to improve it. 

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Dogboy
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4/17/2024 11:50am
Is this a new Process from Kona?! Looks like an X but different rocker and slimmer around the ST/TT junction, maybe?

Is this a new Process from Kona?! Looks like an X but different rocker and slimmer around the ST/TT junction, maybe?

That's a new 153. Caleb is also on one in that video. Looks great, like a smaller X.

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easton
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4/17/2024 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2024 12:21pm
Is this a new Process from Kona?! Looks like an X but different rocker and slimmer around the ST/TT junction, maybe?

Is this a new Process from Kona?! Looks like an X but different rocker and slimmer around the ST/TT junction, maybe?

Dogboy wrote:
That's a new 153. Caleb is also on one in that video. Looks great, like a smaller X.

That's a new 153. Caleb is also on one in that video. Looks great, like a smaller X.

The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm.

Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new 153 with have. IMO 4mm of travel difference is not really perceptible. 

Having two models with set CS lengths will let them use a UDH so that could be a factor.

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nicompr
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4/17/2024 1:21pm
easton wrote:
The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm. Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new...

The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm.

Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new 153 with have. IMO 4mm of travel difference is not really perceptible. 

Having two models with set CS lengths will let them use a UDH so that could be a factor.

I find it really interesting that no one find a way to made CS length ajustable with udh. I guess the dropouts will be too big

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Dogboy
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4/17/2024 1:25pm
easton wrote:
The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm. Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new...

The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm.

Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new 153 with have. IMO 4mm of travel difference is not really perceptible. 

Having two models with set CS lengths will let them use a UDH so that could be a factor.

nicompr wrote:

I find it really interesting that no one find a way to made CS length ajustable with udh. I guess the dropouts will be too big

I think it's more to do with the very specific chain length and system setup on the Transmission stuff that keeps it from being a thing. They want everything based around A fixed chainstay length.

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4/17/2024 1:32pm
easton wrote:
The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm. Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new...

The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm.

Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new 153 with have. IMO 4mm of travel difference is not really perceptible. 

Having two models with set CS lengths will let them use a UDH so that could be a factor.

nicompr wrote:

I find it really interesting that no one find a way to made CS length ajustable with udh. I guess the dropouts will be too big

Dogboy wrote:
I think it's more to do with the very specific chain length and system setup on the Transmission stuff that keeps it from being a thing...

I think it's more to do with the very specific chain length and system setup on the Transmission stuff that keeps it from being a thing. They want everything based around A fixed chainstay length.

Oh really? I thought it was more to do with the axle/hanger/T-type interface that made it hard to move back and forward?

I didn't think chainstay length had anything to do with it? Otherwise sag would affect the system, or turning you bike into a hardtail (longer CS as your suspension doesn't compress) would cause issues, but it doesn't. 

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rludes025
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4/17/2024 1:33pm
easton wrote:
The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm. Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new...

The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm.

Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new 153 with have. IMO 4mm of travel difference is not really perceptible. 

Having two models with set CS lengths will let them use a UDH so that could be a factor.

nicompr wrote:

I find it really interesting that no one find a way to made CS length ajustable with udh. I guess the dropouts will be too big

Raaw Madonna?

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Losifer
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Frameworks new bonded prototype:

 

 

 

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Losifer
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4/17/2024 1:35pm
easton wrote:
The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm. Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new...

The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm.

Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new 153 with have. IMO 4mm of travel difference is not really perceptible. 

Having two models with set CS lengths will let them use a UDH so that could be a factor.

nicompr wrote:

I find it really interesting that no one find a way to made CS length ajustable with udh. I guess the dropouts will be too big

rludes025 wrote:

Raaw Madonna?

I;m pretty sure with the Madonna you can have either the adjustable CS or UDH.

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4/17/2024 1:37pm
easton wrote:
The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm. Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new...

The current carbon Process X short CS position gives 157mm travel. Long CS position is 164mm.

Will be interesting how many other geo differences a new 153 with have. IMO 4mm of travel difference is not really perceptible. 

Having two models with set CS lengths will let them use a UDH so that could be a factor.

nicompr wrote:

I find it really interesting that no one find a way to made CS length ajustable with udh. I guess the dropouts will be too big

Rocky Instinct has an adjustable chainstay with UDH.

https://bikes.com/collections/instinct

But you can only use the longer position when running a T-Type derailleur.

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Dave113
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4/17/2024 1:39pm

Pole bankrupt?! Just heard a comment on another site... 

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rludes025
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4/17/2024 1:39pm
nicompr wrote:

I find it really interesting that no one find a way to made CS length ajustable with udh. I guess the dropouts will be too big

rludes025 wrote:

Raaw Madonna?

Losifer wrote:

I;m pretty sure with the Madonna you can have either the adjustable CS or UDH.

You are correct. I nuked my post, but you got there too quick!

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