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3/25/2024 7:25am

Has there been any word on Zipp? I noticed the 3Motos are discounted everywhere and SRAMs site has them listed as out of stock until 4/11, I'm wondering if a new iteration is coming soon. 

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3/25/2024 8:00am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2024 8:02am

Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels.

Could simply be the new Altitude.

 

MAHAL

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3/25/2024 8:31am
Rick26 wrote:
Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels. Could simply be the new Altitude...

Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels.

Could simply be the new Altitude.

 

MAHAL

Looks like a full SRAM build so that makes it unlikely that it's the new Altitude... 

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3/25/2024 9:00am
Rick26 wrote:
Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels. Could simply be the new Altitude...

Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels.

Could simply be the new Altitude.

 

MAHAL

O1D4 wrote:

Looks like a full SRAM build so that makes it unlikely that it's the new Altitude... 

Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.

RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.

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3/25/2024 9:24am
Rick26 wrote:
Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels. Could simply be the new Altitude...

Mahalo are usually only riding on Trek bikes, but this one doesn't look like a Trek as per OEM tires/wheels.

Could simply be the new Altitude.

 

MAHAL

O1D4 wrote:

Looks like a full SRAM build so that makes it unlikely that it's the new Altitude... 

Rick26 wrote:
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds. RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that...

Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.

RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.

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3/25/2024 9:43am

Good photo of lower link on Canyon. photo: Ben Wilson (IG)

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3/25/2024 10:12am
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What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their...

What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their own models. It's not how brakes are made is a secret anymore. You have a lever that pushes a piston that pushes fluid that pushes another set of pistons. Sure you can add cams here, adjustments there, play with leverage ratio, fancy cnc, parts, it doesn't really change the way brakes work fundamentally. Not discrediting the manufacturing of these brakes in any way. For a set of the more pricy Lewis brakes you can get just about anything that isn't super bougie like Trickstuff/Intend. So yeah, I don't really see a reason why someone should own these, unless you have to have something that resembles a Trickstuff and you don't have the money, or you just really like the way Lewis sounds or the feeling of these brakes just wowed you out of the world (highly unlikely). 

FWIW I haven't heard a bad word about the performance of them from people actually trying them out...

And they will be ridden in the world cup if that's any consolation at all. Probably not though. 

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3/25/2024 10:21am
amaranth wrote:
What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their...

What really bothers me is that Lewis brakes CHOSE to MIMIC the way Trickstuff brakes look. Hope/Trickstuff/Intend/Sram/Shimano/Hayes/TRP all look pretty distinguishable, even between some of their own models. It's not how brakes are made is a secret anymore. You have a lever that pushes a piston that pushes fluid that pushes another set of pistons. Sure you can add cams here, adjustments there, play with leverage ratio, fancy cnc, parts, it doesn't really change the way brakes work fundamentally. Not discrediting the manufacturing of these brakes in any way. For a set of the more pricy Lewis brakes you can get just about anything that isn't super bougie like Trickstuff/Intend. So yeah, I don't really see a reason why someone should own these, unless you have to have something that resembles a Trickstuff and you don't have the money, or you just really like the way Lewis sounds or the feeling of these brakes just wowed you out of the world (highly unlikely). 

Primoz wrote:
FWIW I haven't heard a bad word about the performance of them from people actually trying them out... And they will be ridden in the world...

FWIW I haven't heard a bad word about the performance of them from people actually trying them out...

And they will be ridden in the world cup if that's any consolation at all. Probably not though. 

I agree, every single owner I've spoken to who has actually tried Lewis brakes has nothing but great things to say about them. Great modulation, great power, nice construction quality etc. I'm very curious to try them myself next month. Everyone who has bashed them and called them cheap sweatshop made brakes, unsurprisingly has never even tried or seen them in person. If I try them and they do turn out to be junk, I will have no issue admitting that but every person who actually has hands on experience seems to think they're stellar brakes.

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3/25/2024 10:30am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2024 10:43am

 

Looks like the new Marzocchi 38 chassis is close to being unveiled.

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3/25/2024 10:56am
mntnmrtn wrote:
  Looks like the new Marzocchi 38 chassis is close to being unveiled.

 

Looks like the new Marzocchi 38 chassis is close to being unveiled.

marzo38 1.png?VersionId=.Uz8VeF8jxmtarj6GRDCgFbRpFkv8Lv

Needs to drop already. Take my money!

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3/25/2024 10:57am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2024 10:57am

not a fan of the new font

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3/25/2024 11:31am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2024 11:33am
There also seems to be a small "belly" close to the BB on the new Canyon. The outline almost looks like it's a cover of some...

There also seems to be a small "belly" close to the BB on the new Canyon. The outline almost looks like it's a cover of some sort. Could the shock be mounted vertically and be actuated by an upper link if it indeed a 6-bar ?  

Edit: from this photo (from Vital pre-race interviews) you can clearly see a link in the bottom bracket area. This would fit with both the "Devinci" theory and the 6-bar theory. I also wonder if the vertical thick element behind the idler is part of the front triangle or is a vertical member in a 6-bar design (oh I missed nerding out on this stuff 😆)

Screenshot 2024-03-24-11-23-14-857 com.miui .gallery

I'm definitely thinking 6 bar on it, with the axle pivot instead of a chainstay pivot, possibly with a pivot location concentric to the bb, but maybe not too high given where the idler is, and I think it'll have a vertical shock mount, or at least more vertical, that belly portion being where the shock mounts like the old Giant Faiths and Giant Glorys 

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sethimus wrote:

not a fan of the new font

Just speed up the rebound a click and it should be fine.

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3/25/2024 1:54pm
sethimus wrote:

not a fan of the new font

Some custom decals, maybe some chrome and red, like the old Z1 Atom Bombs would be cool.

Its not my bag either, like a poor interpretation of minimalist design

Could be worse, could be

mrzcch bmbr....

I hate that I even typed that

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3/25/2024 2:21pm
Good photo of lower link on Canyon. photo: Ben Wilson (IG)

Good photo of lower link on Canyon. photo: Ben Wilson (IG)

IMG 0986.jpeg?VersionId=lRq ovUC

Looks to be doing the same Ancillotti rip-off nonsense that Speicalized is doing, but probably more along the lines of a high pivot faux-6 bar like the proto Norco that the King is on. 

But the folds in the diaper at the top does look like the outline of a normal, horizontal upper rocker link. Maybe a 6 bar (or faux-6 bar) high pivot like Commencal, but actuating the shock from both ends like Mondraker?

3/26/2024 3:15am
O1D4 wrote:

Looks like a full SRAM build so that makes it unlikely that it's the new Altitude... 

Rick26 wrote:
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds. RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that...

Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.

RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.

O1D4 wrote:

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New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly and had to get rid of that first.

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3/26/2024 4:42am
mntnmrtn wrote:
  Looks like the new Marzocchi 38 chassis is close to being unveiled.

 

Looks like the new Marzocchi 38 chassis is close to being unveiled.

marzo38 1.png?VersionId=.Uz8VeF8jxmtarj6GRDCgFbRpFkv8Lv

Definitelly looks like a 2way compresion dial on that photo, the other ones were edited/blacked out it seems

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3/26/2024 5:36am Edited Date/Time 3/26/2024 7:47am
Rick26 wrote:
Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds. RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that...

Rocky Mountain are doing full SRAM builds since T-Type, go check 2024 Instinct builds.

RM are also associated with IFHT films (Mahalo) so it's not that unlikely that a new promo video for the 2024 Altitude will be made by them.

O1D4 wrote:

image-20240325092438-1

New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly...

New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly and had to get rid of that first.

Or Tyee with a Zeb? Shape looks similar. 

image-20240326133907-1

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3/26/2024 7:20am
sethimus wrote:

not a fan of the new font

It'll T up with GT's rebranding beautifully however.

 

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3/26/2024 7:26am
O1D4 wrote:

image-20240325092438-1

New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly...

New Spindrift? I've been expecting it for a long time. But based on the ongoing sales since rampage, they probably overstocked the current version quite significantly and had to get rid of that first.

Primoz wrote:
Or Tyee with a Zeb? Shape looks similar. 

Or Tyee with a Zeb? Shape looks similar. 

image-20240326133907-1

Not sure I could tell them apart from that picture and I ride a Hugene. 

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3/26/2024 7:27am

A feature is published on Vital too, for a few hours already. 

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3/26/2024 7:35am

PB just dropped their review of the dual crown Selva, the "Formula Belva"

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-formula-belva-dual-crown-enduro-fo…

The TLDR: 

"But the coil negative spring lets it down. For heavier riders like me, the extra air pressure creates an abrupt feel on touchdown, forcing me to compromise on support. For lighter riders, the spring should work well, but then the rebound could become too slow."

 

As soon as I saw that it uses a negative coil spring that was non-adjustable I knew it wasn't going to be worth getting. Unless you are at the exact intended body weight, you won't get full travel or you will get a harsh topout, as the reviewer found. He compensated by running less pressure and more compression, but it also appears the rebound is too aggressive, so even fully open it was too slow. Shame, the chassis looks promising. Doesn't Formula offer custom shim stacks that are user-install friendly? Perhaps that combined with a coil conversion kit could make this thing come alive.  

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3/26/2024 7:39am

Looks like the new Scalpel is dropping, but either it shouldn't be on the homepage yet or they forgot to unlock the article

 

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3/26/2024 7:42am

PB just dropped their review of the dual crown Selva, the "Formula Belva"

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-formula-belva-dual-crown-enduro-fo…

The TLDR:  "But the coil negative spring lets it down. For heavier riders like me, the extra air pressure creates an abrupt feel on touchdown, forcing...

The TLDR: 

"But the coil negative spring lets it down. For heavier riders like me, the extra air pressure creates an abrupt feel on touchdown, forcing me to compromise on support. For lighter riders, the spring should work well, but then the rebound could become too slow."

 

As soon as I saw that it uses a negative coil spring that was non-adjustable I knew it wasn't going to be worth getting. Unless you are at the exact intended body weight, you won't get full travel or you will get a harsh topout, as the reviewer found. He compensated by running less pressure and more compression, but it also appears the rebound is too aggressive, so even fully open it was too slow. Shame, the chassis looks promising. Doesn't Formula offer custom shim stacks that are user-install friendly? Perhaps that combined with a coil conversion kit could make this thing come alive.  

the user installed valving is for compression only (they call it CTS).  but yea, seems like some weird misses on this, especially since it's not like they don't have the features / tech already existing in the Selva.

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3/26/2024 7:44am
Looks like the new Scalpel is dropping, but either it shouldn't be on the homepage yet or they forgot to unlock the article  

Looks like the new Scalpel is dropping, but either it shouldn't be on the homepage yet or they forgot to unlock the article

 

image-20240326093800-1image-20240326093809-2

They must be late since PB already published their article

 

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-2024-cannondale-scalpel.html

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3/26/2024 7:55am

PB just dropped their review of the dual crown Selva, the "Formula Belva"

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-formula-belva-dual-crown-enduro-fo…

The TLDR:  "But the coil negative spring lets it down. For heavier riders like me, the extra air pressure creates an abrupt feel on touchdown, forcing...

The TLDR: 

"But the coil negative spring lets it down. For heavier riders like me, the extra air pressure creates an abrupt feel on touchdown, forcing me to compromise on support. For lighter riders, the spring should work well, but then the rebound could become too slow."

 

As soon as I saw that it uses a negative coil spring that was non-adjustable I knew it wasn't going to be worth getting. Unless you are at the exact intended body weight, you won't get full travel or you will get a harsh topout, as the reviewer found. He compensated by running less pressure and more compression, but it also appears the rebound is too aggressive, so even fully open it was too slow. Shame, the chassis looks promising. Doesn't Formula offer custom shim stacks that are user-install friendly? Perhaps that combined with a coil conversion kit could make this thing come alive.  

Hopefully they will do the dual air and coil versions as they have with the Selva

HexonJuan
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3/26/2024 7:57am

PB just dropped their review of the dual crown Selva, the "Formula Belva"

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-formula-belva-dual-crown-enduro-fo…

The TLDR:  "But the coil negative spring lets it down. For heavier riders like me, the extra air pressure creates an abrupt feel on touchdown, forcing...

The TLDR: 

"But the coil negative spring lets it down. For heavier riders like me, the extra air pressure creates an abrupt feel on touchdown, forcing me to compromise on support. For lighter riders, the spring should work well, but then the rebound could become too slow."

 

As soon as I saw that it uses a negative coil spring that was non-adjustable I knew it wasn't going to be worth getting. Unless you are at the exact intended body weight, you won't get full travel or you will get a harsh topout, as the reviewer found. He compensated by running less pressure and more compression, but it also appears the rebound is too aggressive, so even fully open it was too slow. Shame, the chassis looks promising. Doesn't Formula offer custom shim stacks that are user-install friendly? Perhaps that combined with a coil conversion kit could make this thing come alive.  

Coil negative springs are bad engineering at this point. Coil negative springs only available in one weight is just sloppy customer care. 

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3/26/2024 7:58am
Looks like the new Scalpel is dropping, but either it shouldn't be on the homepage yet or they forgot to unlock the article  

Looks like the new Scalpel is dropping, but either it shouldn't be on the homepage yet or they forgot to unlock the article

 

image-20240326093800-1image-20240326093809-2

They must be late since PB already published their article

 

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-2024-cannondale-scalpel.html

I think I found the reason why: 

"there was an incident that ended the ride prematurely for another journalist. This particular rider, who weighs in the neighborhood of 190 lb (86 kg) went a little deep off a 5-foot rock drop, and the resulting landing force ended up snapping the frame at the seat tube near the shock mount area" -PB, on their Scalpel article

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