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bizutch
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10/12/2023 6:55am
Primoz wrote:
Because the Lefty has three (used to be four) flat surfaces with needle bearings between them inside the housing. Which prevent rotation of the stanchion. Which...

Because the Lefty has three (used to be four) flat surfaces with needle bearings between them inside the housing. Which prevent rotation of the stanchion. Which is not the case with dual legged upside down forks.

USD forks are flexy because they don't have the bridge connecting the lowers that standard bike forks have. Take a standard MTB fork, cut away the bridge and it will be a noodle.

Back to rumors.

Surely if someone made a long travel/DH USD fork with this needle bearing designs, whatever the cost, there would be a market for such a premium...

Surely if someone made a long travel/DH USD fork with this needle bearing designs, whatever the cost, there would be a market for such a premium product even if small and niche 🤷🏻‍♂️

The Manitou Dorado really is an incredible fork.  They have the patent on the hex axle (guessing it expires soon) that resolved a lot of flex issues for DH diameter stanchions that moto forks don't have.

Hayes just doesn't have the market penetration of Fox & RockShox, nor budget, to get it back on the top step.

If a World Cup team w/ a proven winner tossed the Dorado on for next year, I have zero doubts it would hit the top step.
Then suddenly people would pee their pants for Hayes/Manitou again.

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10/13/2023 2:42am

@TheSuspensionLabNZ what on earth is this 

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shape
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10/13/2023 7:11am
Ducki wrote:

Mainframe looks exactly like an RM Altitude.

Just because it has similar suspension layout? Not really.

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10/13/2023 3:09pm Edited Date/Time 10/13/2023 3:09pm

No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever.

https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/

 

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10/13/2023 4:48pm
jamesma wrote:
No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever. https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/  

No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever.

https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/

 

My thumbs hurt just watching that (I have terrible thumb issues). 

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10/13/2023 5:36pm
jamesma wrote:
No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever. https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/  

No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever.

https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/

 

Yeah, nah.

Might work for the flatbar gravel chodes Ingrid is aimed at, but there's no way that's gonna work on an enduro bike.

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10/13/2023 5:49pm
jamesma wrote:
No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever. https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/  

No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever.

https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/

 

Yeah, nah.

Might work for the flatbar gravel chodes Ingrid is aimed at, but there's no way that's gonna work on an enduro bike.

What's a flat bar gravel chode?

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10/13/2023 6:07pm Edited Date/Time 10/13/2023 6:08pm
jamesma wrote:
No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever. https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/  

No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever.

https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/

 

rugbyred wrote:

My thumbs hurt just watching that (I have terrible thumb issues). 

Shimano Nexus shifters have had a similar action for a long time (take the ST-7S20 model for instance)

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Primoz
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10/13/2023 10:05pm

Slight Box One vibes? Not the same in principle as Box lever was pushed in instead of rotated the other way, but yeah... Single lever nevertheless. 

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10/14/2023 4:34am
jamesma wrote:
No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever. https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/  

No embedded video because embed is acting funny, but Ingrid Components is working on a shifter that uses just one lever.

https://www.pinkbike.com/video/580993/

 

What's so special about this?  Shimano had single-lever trigger shifters in the 90s, just with a Y-shaped paddle.

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10/14/2023 12:22pm
Jrp wrote:
@TheSuspensionLabNZ what on earth is this 

@TheSuspensionLabNZ what on earth is this 

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That is the WP version of the new Onyx 38 damper with the Cone Valve. DVO NZ reached out after I commented on it as it turns out they had been testing it for a few months already. I've had it all in bits and will run it on the Dyno tomorrow but so far-

-Yes it is an actual Cone Valve design, but on the base valve instead of the mid valve. This will change its effect somewhat, since there is much less oil flow at the base valve

-Overall construction of the base valve is really nice, the dials feel good and the bladder is larger than before

-Low speed adjuster looks very tidy so I expect it to be a lot more effective than the old one (and many other brands LSC circuits)

-The rebound piston is a lot better, larger rebound ports which are spaced further out from the clamp shim so it might have a more linear damping rate. The old one had such small ports and large pivot that it mostly behaved like an orifice damper. 

-Seal head is way better too, much less friction than before

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10/14/2023 2:04pm

Just trying something here....

That Transition Sentinel sure is a cool looking bike, curious to see how much it resembles my old Patrol!

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10/16/2023 2:37am

Back when the Capra was about to be unveiled, there was a rumor the next gen enduro- and AM-rigs were about to get a vertical-shock layout, to be more in line with the Izzo. The Capra proved it wrong, the words above state the same for the Jeffsy. But it would have been nice to see a “bigger-travel Izzo”-looking Jeffsy! Smile

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10/16/2023 4:13am
Ducki wrote:

Mainframe looks exactly like an RM Altitude.

shape wrote:

Just because it has similar suspension layout? Not really.

altitude will go full santa cruz anyway. Wink

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Proto Burgtec pedals with centre pins?

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lickmycrinkle
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10/16/2023 3:31pm

Is it really a rumour if you post your own bullshit?

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10/16/2023 4:23pm

Is it really a rumour if you post your own bullshit?

Prolly could be counted as innovation, you absolute pickle jar

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Ducki wrote:

Mainframe looks exactly like an RM Altitude.

shape wrote:

Just because it has similar suspension layout? Not really.

fartsack wrote:

altitude will go full santa cruz anyway. Wink

Not full SC, but not dissimilar 

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Primoz
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10/16/2023 8:45pm

Chainstay driven Horst link?

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10/17/2023 8:08am
shape wrote:

Just because it has similar suspension layout? Not really.

fartsack wrote:

altitude will go full santa cruz anyway. Wink

metadave wrote:

Not full SC, but not dissimilar 

 

Come on guys....Silly

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Primoz
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10/17/2023 8:18am

Convergence of ideas.

The look of the Aeris is an evolution of the Aeris 145 which was unveiled in 2017. Aeris 9 was the first bike with a completely new tubeset, before that the 145/AM (same bike, but AM comes with the 160 link), 120, AM9 and both Aether 7 and 9 used the same tubeset. And the general layout is also the same.

Yeah, they look insanely similar. But I'd say it's a looks like a session situation. 

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10/17/2023 9:48am

Ibis bike owner group mentioned new ripmo coming 1st march 24 (if not in december)

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10/17/2023 2:33pm Edited Date/Time 10/17/2023 2:35pm

Probably the fresh Jeffsy as discussed in this thread but just got this sent to my inbox  

https://us.yt-industries.com/thepower?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&…

Chance of a lifetime sounds like a competition but then they have a count down timer on their website. Wording could be taken different ways  D66C1004-A296-4BB7-A404-D49545A8A24A

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10/17/2023 3:09pm Edited Date/Time 10/17/2023 7:08pm

Probably the fresh Jeffsy as discussed in this thread but just got this sent to my inbox  

https://us.yt-industries.com/thepower?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&…

jazza_wil wrote:
Chance of a lifetime sounds like a competition but then they have a count down timer on their website. Wording could be taken different ways  

Chance of a lifetime sounds like a competition but then they have a count down timer on their website. Wording could be taken different ways  D66C1004-A296-4BB7-A404-D49545A8A24A

Yeah probably right. Something to oddly look forward to. 
 

edit. Looking at the link again, it says Jeffsy so probably a Jeffsy thing. 

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10/17/2023 3:29pm
Noeserd wrote:

Straight top tube knollys looks cursed

What? I think it looks great. More importantly they mentioned the move to having all links containing bearings. I know someone mentioned that before they used bushings in one of the links and it would cause a lot of stiction. 

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fartsack wrote:

altitude will go full santa cruz anyway. Wink

metadave wrote:

Not full SC, but not dissimilar 

Ducki wrote:
  Come on guys....

 

Come on guys....Silly

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That's the new Instinct, which keeps the same layout as the current one but dropping the shared frame of the Altitude should drop it a few pounds. I've got a new Altitude on the way and its rad AF

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