Not world cup, but Norco has something new coming. T-Type, Small shock, look pretty trail to me?
The Sight and Optic are fairly up to date still. Maybe a light E-bike? Revolver?
Sight would have a Piggyback Air Shock and a lyrik/36. The bike in the image has a pike and an inline shock so thinking it's more likely the new optic.
Not world cup, but Norco has something new coming. T-Type, Small shock, look pretty trail to me?
The Sight and Optic are fairly up to date...
Not world cup, but Norco has something new coming. T-Type, Small shock, look pretty trail to me?
The Sight and Optic are fairly up to date still. Maybe a light E-bike? Revolver?
Inline shock, non-high pivot, and the Pike rule out a new Optic for me, as all signs I've heard point to it being even more aggressive with an high- or mid-pivot+idler design. It's a little hard to make out the downtube and DT/BB junction area, but from what I can tell they certainly look pretty chunky, so I'm going with a new Fluid VLT (especially considering that the Fluid was recently overhauled).
Should we move this bar height debate into a separate topic? It's a thing I've started thinking about lately and tried a few things out (as...
Should we move this bar height debate into a separate topic? It's a thing I've started thinking about lately and tried a few things out (as noted above), so would love to discuss it in more detail, but this really isn't the place.
Not world cup, but Norco has something new coming. T-Type, Small shock, look pretty trail to me?
The Sight and Optic are fairly up to date...
Not world cup, but Norco has something new coming. T-Type, Small shock, look pretty trail to me?
The Sight and Optic are fairly up to date still. Maybe a light E-bike? Revolver?
Yeah I'm also not convinced this is a new Optic.
The current one is still super up to date compared to its competitors, even though it got released in 2019. That's because it seems like every short travel 29er that has come out since basically emulated/copied the frame geometry of the Optic. There's simply no need to update it in that regard.
Also there's the matter of the in-line shock. The current Optic was universally praised by media and consumers alike for its category-defying descending capability - thanks in part to the heavily damped semi-custom SuperDeluxe Ultimate DH shock. Would be a weird move to spec the successor to such a bike with less shred-ready components.
I think this might be a carbon version of the very popular Fluid FS that was released last year as an alloy-only model.
New maxxis pattern spotted on Brendogs instagram. Looks like it bridges a gap between the shorty and assegai maybe? More spaced out and looks taller than assegai.
New maxxis pattern spotted on Brendogs instagram. Looks like it bridges a gap between the shorty and assegai maybe? More spaced out and looks taller than...
New maxxis pattern spotted on Brendogs instagram. Looks like it bridges a gap between the shorty and assegai maybe? More spaced out and looks taller than assegai.
But doesn't show what the bottom two links do through the travel. That's the juicy part!!
It does show it? Top link rotates anticlockwise, lower link clockwise. It’s a nice square side on view as well. Someone with more time on their hands than me could whip up a model in that linkage program.
Not sure if it’s been discussed earlier, but it’s basically a four bar with a linkage driven shock. All be it the link driving the shock has to flex in order to work.
New maxxis pattern spotted on Brendogs instagram. Looks like it bridges a gap between the shorty and assegai maybe? More spaced out and looks taller than...
New maxxis pattern spotted on Brendogs instagram. Looks like it bridges a gap between the shorty and assegai maybe? More spaced out and looks taller than assegai.
WC over and the boxxer / vivid still not relesed. I wonder if they have some production issues?
I don’t know what is going on…
Word on the street is GX Transmission was supposed to be released last week, but clearly it wasn’t. I know that embargo is holding up a couple of bike model releases.
It does show it? Top link rotates anticlockwise, lower link clockwise. It’s a nice square side on view as well. Someone with more time on their...
It does show it? Top link rotates anticlockwise, lower link clockwise. It’s a nice square side on view as well. Someone with more time on their hands than me could whip up a model in that linkage program.
Not sure if it’s been discussed earlier, but it’s basically a four bar with a linkage driven shock. All be it the link driving the shock has to flex in order to work.
It really depends on where the flex occurs, it could effectively be a 6-bar with the correct flex.
Yeah, it does show it, yeah, it's obvious where the links rotate (counter rotating), I was interested in seeing some more travel happen to maybe see any inflection points in the movement. If I understand it correctly, Yeti's Switch Infinity, Ghost's dual short link, system, modern DW link layouts (four-bar), Yeti's 6-bar layout and maybe some more achieve good antisquat by extending the chainstay around the sag area, then through the inflection (one of the links starts moving in the opposite direction) the chainstay starts shortening, lowering the pedal kickback.
This is something that can't be done with a horst link but is something that might be possible with DWLink6 with a very similar layout to a horst link. That's why I wished we could have seen the complete travel. In the video they appear to cycle it riiight up to where the inflection point is and the links should start co-rotating (top link moving downwards).
WC over and the boxxer / vivid still not relesed. I wonder if they have some production issues?
Considering the state of the world post-covid, I would be surprised if there WASN'T production issues. It's going to be years before we see consistent "normal" production cycles. It wouldn't be a bad thing if they let more of their athletes get a few events under their belts and report back before doing a full launch
Thanks for that, confirms there is a flex stay in there for us!
Not world cup, but Norco has something new coming. T-Type, Small shock, look pretty trail to me?
The Sight and Optic are fairly up to date still. Maybe a light E-bike? Revolver?
i would love for them to make the sight more sensible and lose its spare tyre its carrying.
Yeah gotta be the Sight
Sight would have a Piggyback Air Shock and a lyrik/36. The bike in the image has a pike and an inline shock so thinking it's more likely the new optic.
Inline shock, non-high pivot, and the Pike rule out a new Optic for me, as all signs I've heard point to it being even more aggressive with an high- or mid-pivot+idler design. It's a little hard to make out the downtube and DT/BB junction area, but from what I can tell they certainly look pretty chunky, so I'm going with a new Fluid VLT (especially considering that the Fluid was recently overhauled).
looks like a Hope HB916
edit: ok, some of you already had the same idea
Revival of this thread?
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/Another-geo-thread-this-time-…
Yeah I'm also not convinced this is a new Optic.
The current one is still super up to date compared to its competitors, even though it got released in 2019. That's because it seems like every short travel 29er that has come out since basically emulated/copied the frame geometry of the Optic. There's simply no need to update it in that regard.
Also there's the matter of the in-line shock. The current Optic was universally praised by media and consumers alike for its category-defying descending capability - thanks in part to the heavily damped semi-custom SuperDeluxe Ultimate DH shock. Would be a weird move to spec the successor to such a bike with less shred-ready components.
I think this might be a carbon version of the very popular Fluid FS that was released last year as an alloy-only model.
I created this thread for anyone who's interested.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/bar-height-versus-saddle-height
photo of the gamux proto frame from lenzerheide
But doesn't show what the bottom two links do through the travel. That's the juicy part!!
Bit going on
New maxxis pattern spotted on Brendogs instagram. Looks like it bridges a gap between the shorty and assegai maybe? More spaced out and looks taller than assegai.
Isn't this the Saracen prototype we've seen already?
Looks more like a Pirelli scorpion M
speaking of pirelli, anyone seen what tires loris really was on? :D
It does show it? Top link rotates anticlockwise, lower link clockwise. It’s a nice square side on view as well. Someone with more time on their hands than me could whip up a model in that linkage program.
Not sure if it’s been discussed earlier, but it’s basically a four bar with a linkage driven shock. All be it the link driving the shock has to flex in order to work.
Yep you’re right. Thought brendog was maxxis sponsored but it appears he isn’t. May be doing some testing shopping around for a tire sponsor.
Maxxis DHRll by the looks of this…
WC over and the boxxer / vivid still not relesed. I wonder if they have some production issues?
I don’t know what is going on…
Word on the street is GX Transmission was supposed to be released last week, but clearly it wasn’t. I know that embargo is holding up a couple of bike model releases.
My guess (hope, I will buy a Vivid the second it hits), is Eurobike.
It really depends on where the flex occurs, it could effectively be a 6-bar with the correct flex.
Yeah, it does show it, yeah, it's obvious where the links rotate (counter rotating), I was interested in seeing some more travel happen to maybe see any inflection points in the movement. If I understand it correctly, Yeti's Switch Infinity, Ghost's dual short link, system, modern DW link layouts (four-bar), Yeti's 6-bar layout and maybe some more achieve good antisquat by extending the chainstay around the sag area, then through the inflection (one of the links starts moving in the opposite direction) the chainstay starts shortening, lowering the pedal kickback.
This is something that can't be done with a horst link but is something that might be possible with DWLink6 with a very similar layout to a horst link. That's why I wished we could have seen the complete travel. In the video they appear to cycle it riiight up to where the inflection point is and the links should start co-rotating (top link moving downwards).
Pretty sure this has to be Vittoria with some skin in the DH game now..? What you guys think?
It definitely IS vittoria, they did a nice closeup of the branding when Hugo Frixtalon finished with a puncture.
Considering the state of the world post-covid, I would be surprised if there WASN'T production issues. It's going to be years before we see consistent "normal" production cycles. It wouldn't be a bad thing if they let more of their athletes get a few events under their belts and report back before doing a full launch
Hmmm, looks like a proto Rock Shox Sid flight attendant on Nino's Scott.
About time! The sooner we can abandon cable lockouts, the better
Quick overview and demonstration of Suntour's new electronically controlled suspension system. Looke pretty dialed.