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5/25/2023 3:19am

Looks like they announced the 2023 rockshox line-up around this time last year

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Onawalk
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5/25/2023 6:34am

How come noone’s talking about the new Manitou Mattoc??? It’s covered only on bikerumors…

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This is literally a thread for new bike and innovation, and you didnt include a link to the new Manitou fork in your comment, Those that...

This is literally a thread for new bike and innovation, and you didnt include a link to the new Manitou fork in your comment,

Those that can.....should

https://bikerumor.com/manitou-mattoc-all-mountain-bike-fork-110-150mm-t…

He said where it was at. Google exists

I guess I look at this thread where people from all around the world bring/come to find info on new and interesting mtb related things.

more like “Hey, look at what’s going on over at BikeRumour! <insert link here>

rather than, “why isn’t anyone talking about this thing I think should be talked about…”

like we all play a part in the success of this thread, not a condemnation of missed opportunities.  Apologies if my responses were offside, waiting for the coffee to kick in!

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Onawalk wrote:
I guess I look at this thread where people from all around the world bring/come to find info on new and interesting mtb related things. more...

I guess I look at this thread where people from all around the world bring/come to find info on new and interesting mtb related things.

more like “Hey, look at what’s going on over at BikeRumour! <insert link here>

rather than, “why isn’t anyone talking about this thing I think should be talked about…”

like we all play a part in the success of this thread, not a condemnation of missed opportunities.  Apologies if my responses were offside, waiting for the coffee to kick in!

I get what you meant.

Otherwise this thread would be nothing but:

"Hey there's a new Specialized Enduro... Go google it for more info"

How shit would that be! Silly

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5/25/2023 8:31am

https://www-mtb-si.translate.goog/oprema/nova-kolesa-elan-so-predvsem-e…

Elan (some of you might know them from the skiing world) is 'back' in the bike game. Not sure how much effort will be put into marketing these bikes outside Slovenia though. One thing is for sure, a Fazua equiped full susser weighing 22 kg sure is an achievement Smile

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5/25/2023 10:15am

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5/25/2023 10:24am
eljefe1 wrote:
 

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Beat me to it. That reservoir looks way different. Probably the wireless stuff?

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jsray wrote:

Beat me to it. That reservoir looks way different. Probably the wireless stuff?

Yeah its the wireless shock, we have seen the air version but this is the first time I've seen the coil variant.

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5/25/2023 10:26am

Revamped Ragley lineup dropping tomorrow it seems

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5/25/2023 1:30pm

Hey my shock is wireless too! I’m just like Ritchie for real now

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5/25/2023 8:06pm
CWizzle720 wrote:
Does anyone know anything about a planned release date for the new Rockshox Boxxer? teams seem to have been running it for quite a while now...

Does anyone know anything about a planned release date for the new Rockshox Boxxer? teams seem to have been running it for quite a while now must be close to being released?

Probably at the WC in Lenzerheide in early June. Rumors are that they are going to do it like SRAM did with the Transmission, releasing it at the first big XC Event of the season.

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5/25/2023 10:27pm
CWizzle720 wrote:
Does anyone know anything about a planned release date for the new Rockshox Boxxer? teams seem to have been running it for quite a while now...

Does anyone know anything about a planned release date for the new Rockshox Boxxer? teams seem to have been running it for quite a while now must be close to being released?

Probably at the WC in Lenzerheide in early June. Rumors are that they are going to do it like SRAM did with the Transmission, releasing it...

Probably at the WC in Lenzerheide in early June. Rumors are that they are going to do it like SRAM did with the Transmission, releasing it at the first big XC Event of the season.

Are we expecting Boxxer, Vivid, and Reverb AXS updates? Or just the fork and shock?

The new brake won’t be branded RockShox obviously, but as a DH oriented product, might it be released at the same time?

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5/26/2023 12:46am
CWizzle720 wrote:
Does anyone know anything about a planned release date for the new Rockshox Boxxer? teams seem to have been running it for quite a while now...

Does anyone know anything about a planned release date for the new Rockshox Boxxer? teams seem to have been running it for quite a while now must be close to being released?

Probably at the WC in Lenzerheide in early June. Rumors are that they are going to do it like SRAM did with the Transmission, releasing it...

Probably at the WC in Lenzerheide in early June. Rumors are that they are going to do it like SRAM did with the Transmission, releasing it at the first big XC Event of the season.

BrambleLee wrote:
Are we expecting Boxxer, Vivid, and Reverb AXS updates? Or just the fork and shock? The new brake won’t be branded RockShox obviously, but as a...

Are we expecting Boxxer, Vivid, and Reverb AXS updates? Or just the fork and shock?

The new brake won’t be branded RockShox obviously, but as a DH oriented product, might it be released at the same time?

SRAM has quite a long list of releases for this year.
How many have been done so far... Force, Transmission...

Already seen in the wild are...SID line, Boxxer, Vivid, GX Transmission, Code calipers

The new RED road group that "might" have a shocking piece of tech in it is "rumored" to be released at the Tour de France.

Reverb AXS has been the most tight-lipped one. Although, from what I understand, there have been prototypes out there right under our noses. The new SID had been on bikes for multiple World Cups last year before anyone realized it

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5/26/2023 12:54am

Jesse posted pics of one of the Reverb protos by the looks of things... 

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5/26/2023 3:37am
Primoz wrote:

Jesse posted pics of one of the Reverb protos by the looks of things... 

Nah it seems that was a previous one just mounted different direction. 

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5/26/2023 3:44am

That's what he said, but Seth showed that it doesn't actually work. The general consensus is that Jesse just covered his tracks. 

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5/26/2023 3:59am

Yeah, i tried it too. 
Doesn’t work

5/26/2023 4:34am

Jesse states that the clamps are custom bits to make it work. 

If I remember right, Seth, aside from the clamp issues, also couldn't clear the battery very well with his saddle. I wanna say that Jesse stated somewhere that he had to find a seat with the right rail height to clear. Looks like a fairly standard Reverb AXSimage-20230526203251-1

I wouldn't be surprised if SRAM is making a lighter "race" version of the battery. There's quite a bit of dead space in that battery. Last year there was some scuttlebutt about one existing. 

SRAM battery 2SRAM battery 1 0SRAM battery 3

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5/26/2023 4:42am

Seth made the battery fit by remoting it via a cable, the issue was the clamp itself not clearing the seat. 

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5/26/2023 5:41am

I doubt that axs reverb is a new version. Looks the same. Jesse is certainly not the only one having tire to battery clearance issues. I'd expect a new version to significantly different. In most ways it's a bit behind compared to cabled droppers from other brands: 170mm is still the longest available, stack is higher than a lot of the competition, and battery sticks out and can make tire buzz an issue. Fixing those issues on a new version would require pretty significant changes and would be visually pretty different too I'd bet. 

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5/26/2023 6:39am

Somewhere, about a year ago, there was a picture of either Nino Schurter or Jolanda Neff's bike from a WC XC race weekend that had a reverb that was definitely a newer version.  The mounting of the battery/post head looked completely different than the current version.  I've tried to find the picture but I think it was scrubbed by whatever site posted it.  

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5/26/2023 8:18am
 

Someone is making a modern version of this Wink

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5/26/2023 9:15am
kcy4130 wrote:

Are you sure it was axs? Nino used some other brand of dropper in the past (presumably to save weight). 

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/spotted-a-new-lightweight-rockshox-droppe…

Positive.  I'm leaning more toward it being on Jolanda Neff's bike from memory.  You could see the same AXS battery but it mounted differently, presumably to create better tire clearance. 

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5/26/2023 9:50am Edited Date/Time 5/26/2023 10:18am

Hum. I'm intrigued! I wish someone could find those photos. But it doesn't make sense that Neff or any xc racer would need more clearance. Short travel droppers and short suspension travel means tire to battery clearance is usually ample, right?. It's on long travel bikes with long droppers (and shortish chainstays) that the issue arises. 

Edit: then again, Neff may have just been testing it even if xc bikes don't need the clearance? 

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5/26/2023 10:01am
kcy4130 wrote:
Hum. I'm intrigued! I wish someone could find those photos. But it doesn't make sense that Neff or any xc racer would need more clearance. Short...

Hum. I'm intrigued! I wish someone could find those photos. But it doesn't make sense that Neff or any xc racer would need more clearance. Short travel droppers and short suspension travel means tire to battery clearance is usually ample, right?. It's on long travel bikes with long droppers (and shortish chainstays) that the issue arises. 

Edit: then again, Neff may have just been testing it even if xc bikes don't need the clearance? 

I read—from some rando on the internet, so take it for what it’s worth—that a 200mm reverb AXS has shown up on dealer B2B sites.

Now here I am—some rando on the internet—repeating it. Take it for what it’s worth. 

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5/26/2023 10:10am
TimBud wrote:
 

Someone is making a modern version of this Wink

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5/26/2023 1:53pm
kcy4130 wrote:
Hum. I'm intrigued! I wish someone could find those photos. But it doesn't make sense that Neff or any xc racer would need more clearance. Short...

Hum. I'm intrigued! I wish someone could find those photos. But it doesn't make sense that Neff or any xc racer would need more clearance. Short travel droppers and short suspension travel means tire to battery clearance is usually ample, right?. It's on long travel bikes with long droppers (and shortish chainstays) that the issue arises. 

Edit: then again, Neff may have just been testing it even if xc bikes don't need the clearance? 

BrambleLee wrote:
I read—from some rando on the internet, so take it for what it’s worth—that a 200mm reverb AXS has shown up on dealer B2B sites. Now...

I read—from some rando on the internet, so take it for what it’s worth—that a 200mm reverb AXS has shown up on dealer B2B sites.

Now here I am—some rando on the internet—repeating it. Take it for what it’s worth. 

Internet Rando is wrong sorry to say... 

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5/26/2023 2:17pm

On the vital podcast Dakota said the new race frame they were trying to reduce weight. He said the current bike was 41 or 43lb and they want to get to 38lb I believe he said?

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