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jnroyal
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4/21/2023 8:05am
TimBud wrote:
They DID offer Cam a refund or warranty replacement (to the DH/Freeride spec) though! Cam is one of those customers that is impossible to please. And...

They DID offer Cam a refund or warranty replacement (to the DH/Freeride spec) though!

Cam is one of those customers that is impossible to please. And made it worse by publicising the entire thing as he went along. 5Dev are right to get rid of him and focus on sorting out their other customers.

5Dev should have handled it better but I believe in this particular instance Cam would've behaved like a self-entitled child anyway.

As for the other instagram example that's been posted here, the person said "Andrew strikes again! I don't know a single soul that destroys more bike parts than my husband 😅. In the last few years he has demolished 5 different cranks from several manufacturers. Thankfully customer service has been kind to him and a new pair of Andrew's fav cranks are on the way."

 

Is Cam the guy on that Instagram page riding wheelies through red lights?

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4/21/2023 8:42am

Nobody seems to care about all the IG posts of RaceFace carbon and sram xo carbon cranks failing. What customer support did those riders get?

5dev offered proper customer support. Of course the guy complained about the failure as most would but the offering from 5dev was more than adequate 

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4/21/2023 9:17am

Please let's just move on from the crank drama. I'm sure both sides have learned from the experience. It's Sea Otter now; let's see some spicy tech rumor shots

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AndehM
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4/21/2023 9:29am

Anyone know when the new RS stuff will be released?  I was surprised it wasn't yesterday with everything else.  I "need" one of those new Vivid Airs.

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4/21/2023 10:44am
AndehM wrote:
Anyone know when the new RS stuff will be released?  I was surprised it wasn't yesterday with everything else.  I "need" one of those new Vivid...

Anyone know when the new RS stuff will be released?  I was surprised it wasn't yesterday with everything else.  I "need" one of those new Vivid Airs.

yeah and funny how last spring people thought "may 2023" was a typo for the embargo on the 38 boxxer. They've been riding them for like two full seasons already?

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4/21/2023 11:38am

New push fork upper tubes look carbony.

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4/21/2023 11:41am
AndehM wrote:
Anyone know when the new RS stuff will be released?  I was surprised it wasn't yesterday with everything else.  I "need" one of those new Vivid...

Anyone know when the new RS stuff will be released?  I was surprised it wasn't yesterday with everything else.  I "need" one of those new Vivid Airs.

yeah and funny how last spring people thought "may 2023" was a typo for the embargo on the 38 boxxer. They've been riding them for like...

yeah and funny how last spring people thought "may 2023" was a typo for the embargo on the 38 boxxer. They've been riding them for like two full seasons already?

Listening to Vali Hoell's interview on Downtime Podcast, it sounds like SRAM has been using all of that two years to work on the performance of the new Boxxer.

4/21/2023 12:21pm
lloyd506 wrote:
Nobody seems to care about all the IG posts of RaceFace carbon and sram xo carbon cranks failing. What customer support did those riders get? 5dev...

Nobody seems to care about all the IG posts of RaceFace carbon and sram xo carbon cranks failing. What customer support did those riders get?

5dev offered proper customer support. Of course the guy complained about the failure as most would but the offering from 5dev was more than adequate 

That's because for every set of 5dev crap on the market their are probably 10,000 SRAM carbon cranks.

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4/21/2023 12:24pm

What is thisIMG 5076

 

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NateMob
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4/21/2023 12:48pm

Definitely looks like a new Stumpy Evo with the rear axle flip chip and Lyrik. 

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4/21/2023 12:54pm

Looks like a photoshop job to me.  The linkages don't make sense at all.  That's a Fox fender on a RS fork.  The really slack seat angle looks like it was from 1-2 generations back.

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4/21/2023 12:54pm
What is this  

What is thisIMG 5076

 

A shitty render

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4/21/2023 1:45pm
What is this  

What is thisIMG 5076

 

From an Instagram account that is run by a guy that has fun rendering wild bikes. Render is not from Specialized. 

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4/21/2023 1:47pm
AndehM wrote:
Looks like a photoshop job to me.  The linkages don't make sense at all.  That's a Fox fender on a RS fork.  The really slack seat...

Looks like a photoshop job to me.  The linkages don't make sense at all.  That's a Fox fender on a RS fork.  The really slack seat angle looks like it was from 1-2 generations back.

Aye, no bottle mounts either.

4/21/2023 2:47pm

Word on the street is Hayes has a new 220mm rotor

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4/21/2023 7:17pm

With it just being red DVO, I’d be super interested in how this relationship works. DVO hand over all their RnD and contract suntour to build it for WP for a boat load of cash so DVO can further develop their new 2024 stuff we have seen floating round? 

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TannerVal
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4/21/2023 7:43pm
iceman2058 wrote:
Jrp wrote:
With it just being red DVO, I’d be super interested in how this relationship works. DVO hand over all their RnD and contract suntour to build...

With it just being red DVO, I’d be super interested in how this relationship works. DVO hand over all their RnD and contract suntour to build it for WP for a boat load of cash so DVO can further develop their new 2024 stuff we have seen floating round? 

My guess would be that the suntour made fork & shock body were the cheapest/easiest to source and that the internals are a completely custom affair. I’m not positive but I think ohlins used to do something similar until they invested in making their own lowers/uppers for their forks

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4/21/2023 8:43pm

sea otter 2 video

 

 

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4/21/2023 9:05pm Edited Date/Time 4/21/2023 9:24pm
iceman2058 wrote:
Jrp wrote:
With it just being red DVO, I’d be super interested in how this relationship works. DVO hand over all their RnD and contract suntour to build...

With it just being red DVO, I’d be super interested in how this relationship works. DVO hand over all their RnD and contract suntour to build it for WP for a boat load of cash so DVO can further develop their new 2024 stuff we have seen floating round? 

TannerVal wrote:
My guess would be that the suntour made fork & shock body were the cheapest/easiest to source and that the internals are a completely custom affair...

My guess would be that the suntour made fork & shock body were the cheapest/easiest to source and that the internals are a completely custom affair. I’m not positive but I think ohlins used to do something similar until they invested in making their own lowers/uppers for their forks

As far as I know Ohlins collaborated with Cane Creek for the double barrel. How the relationship worked I have no idea, but you could get an Ohlins "double barrel" in silver for formula student (as revalved  DHX shocks were common in formula student at the time).

I'd be surprised if this is any more than a rebranding exercise, new internals are expensive and would make servicing more cumbersome. It does look a bit different to DVOs current offering though... 

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4/21/2023 11:37pm
What is this  

What is thisIMG 5076

 

Just a Photoshop job lol. They combined the Stumpy Evo and Enduro and it's not bad looking at a glance, but that linkage would be impossible without a tiny shock stroke and you can see where they tried to 'erase' the vertical dogbone link from the Enduro.

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4/22/2023 1:55am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2023 1:56am
What is this  

What is thisIMG 5076

 

Just a Photoshop job lol. They combined the Stumpy Evo and Enduro and it's not bad looking at a glance, but that linkage would be impossible...

Just a Photoshop job lol. They combined the Stumpy Evo and Enduro and it's not bad looking at a glance, but that linkage would be impossible without a tiny shock stroke and you can see where they tried to 'erase' the vertical dogbone link from the Enduro.

A 2023 carbon frame with cable ports? Definitely fake.

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4/22/2023 2:13am
mattwright wrote:

Word on the street is Hayes has a new 220mm rotor

Which street is that? Hayes have stated the Gamux Racing team were testing some prototype 220mm D-rotors LAST YEAR, it was even covered in some PIT BITS here on Vital, and since then - nothing! 

4/22/2023 7:32am

Unno DH bike closer to production? Screenshot 2023-04-22-16-31-07-434 com.instagram.android.jpg?VersionId=7WlM7.7P7V1gsQFZcfJ7qCyJYUUTY

 Screenshot 2023-04-22-16-31-09-475 com.instagram.android

 

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4/22/2023 7:35am
iceman2058 wrote:
Jrp wrote:
With it just being red DVO, I’d be super interested in how this relationship works. DVO hand over all their RnD and contract suntour to build...

With it just being red DVO, I’d be super interested in how this relationship works. DVO hand over all their RnD and contract suntour to build it for WP for a boat load of cash so DVO can further develop their new 2024 stuff we have seen floating round? 

TannerVal wrote:
My guess would be that the suntour made fork & shock body were the cheapest/easiest to source and that the internals are a completely custom affair...

My guess would be that the suntour made fork & shock body were the cheapest/easiest to source and that the internals are a completely custom affair. I’m not positive but I think ohlins used to do something similar until they invested in making their own lowers/uppers for their forks

The lockout/adjustment lever is relocated to the side. An odd move for a rebranding but then again, but maybe not that hard to relocate like that?

4/22/2023 7:44am

Has anyone seen this yet? Ebike motor with 360wh battery for only 3.6kg! Uses the same gear reduction method as the motor Trek is using. https://youtu.be/eDG8OmIbjlE

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4/22/2023 11:44am

Looks like Loris is running the same MRP lower as on the Yeti proto. Perhaps this is more than a one-off?

mrp

 

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4/22/2023 12:01pm

I think I saw them in the MRP booth at sea otter 

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4/22/2023 12:04pm

Demo linkage C8EEC94F-B4CE-400C-A40A-DB71680B1A97.jpeg?VersionId=KH18SlEocK9Qphxxt3ZpRtHd2uy k

 

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