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2/18/2023 2:04am Edited Date/Time 2/18/2023 2:05am
peecee wrote:
 New glory ? From Santa Cruz syndicates post after Jackson took the elite win today on thredbo 

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 New glory ? From Santa Cruz syndicates post after Jackson took the elite win today on thredbo 

It's definitley a carbon frame and so far we've only seen aluminium prototypes for the new Glory. Looks like this could be a production version.

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2/18/2023 2:55am
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Looks like a 3d print to check fitment.

You can already see a lot of tangency breaks here. If you can see them on a rough 3d print like this then you’re going to see them on a cnc/forged/cast/whatever that ends up being made from part. Any half decent industrial designer would get shot for this, especially on what is likely to be an extremely high-end frame. 

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2/18/2023 3:52am Edited Date/Time 2/18/2023 3:55am
jamesma wrote:
Hope Pro 5 hubs on the way https://www.pinkbike.com/video/575089/ https://www.pinkbike.com/u/seb-stott/album/Hope-hubs/
jamesma wrote:

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Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement.

For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike.

I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs in place, so you won't lose them if you drop the freehub.

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The video is still up.

Great stuff: spare parts guaranteed for 10 years after product is discontinued.

looks to still be easy to work on.

improved sealing.

 

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2/18/2023 6:00am
PJ205 wrote:

It's not a new Sight, he's covering the Norco logos for a totally different reason.

whats going on? wasnt he the guy who helped bring the sight to market???

Think he’s gone full content creator and no longer in Norco so might be riding something new if he gets a sponsor or maybe Norco will sponsor him. 

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2/18/2023 8:01am
mtbboy1993 wrote:
Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement. For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike. I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs...

Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement.

For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike.

I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs in place, so you won't lose them if you drop the freehub.

image-20230218125448-3

The video is still up.

Great stuff: spare parts guaranteed for 10 years after product is discontinued.

looks to still be easy to work on.

improved sealing.

 

“For some reason the pics were removed from Pinkbike” - the reason being that there’s an embargo on the release, which true to form they ignore by “accidentally” posting stuff to open pages while they prepare their articles…time and time again. “Oh we’re sorry this happened….again… [insert facepalm]…”

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2/18/2023 9:41am
mtbboy1993 wrote:
Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement. For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike. I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs...

Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement.

For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike.

I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs in place, so you won't lose them if you drop the freehub.

image-20230218125448-3

The video is still up.

Great stuff: spare parts guaranteed for 10 years after product is discontinued.

looks to still be easy to work on.

improved sealing.

 

iceman2058 wrote:
“For some reason the pics were removed from Pinkbike” - the reason being that there’s an embargo on the release, which true to form they ignore...

“For some reason the pics were removed from Pinkbike” - the reason being that there’s an embargo on the release, which true to form they ignore by “accidentally” posting stuff to open pages while they prepare their articles…time and time again. “Oh we’re sorry this happened….again… [insert facepalm]…”

Getting you guys the clicks though 

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2/18/2023 9:53am

Not being a fan of the latest high engagement hubs, I'm actually hoping they bring back the Pro2 engagement (sub 40T) but with the improved sealing on the Pro5.

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2/18/2023 12:47pm
Verbl Kint wrote:
Not being a fan of the latest high engagement hubs, I'm actually hoping they bring back the Pro2 engagement (sub 40T) but with the improved sealing...

Not being a fan of the latest high engagement hubs, I'm actually hoping they bring back the Pro2 engagement (sub 40T) but with the improved sealing on the Pro5.

Yes, and more points of engagement against the odds are not always better

2/18/2023 2:03pm Edited Date/Time 2/19/2023 3:35am
Verbl Kint wrote:
Not being a fan of the latest high engagement hubs, I'm actually hoping they bring back the Pro2 engagement (sub 40T) but with the improved sealing...

Not being a fan of the latest high engagement hubs, I'm actually hoping they bring back the Pro2 engagement (sub 40T) but with the improved sealing on the Pro5.

Video says 108 POE, 54 POE on the bike hub.

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2/18/2023 5:48pm
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Thibaut Daprela testing a Secus...  

Thibaut Daprela testing a Secus...

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Amaury looks like he has one as wellScreenshot 20230218-174607

 

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2/19/2023 8:56am
peecee wrote:
 

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What brake calipers are those?

2/19/2023 9:27am
peecee wrote:
 

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Scrub wrote:

What brake calipers are those?

One hopes the new Codes. 

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2/19/2023 10:08am
Losifer wrote:
Uh… https://www.instagram.com/p/Co2Eo0ELdpp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= of course, it could be a moto fork. 

Uh…

https://www.instagram.com/p/Co2Eo0ELdpp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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of course, it could be a moto fork. 

yeah, there was a post a while back that clarified they're for e-motos. The background of the insta photo also looks like it features e-motos...

that said, you could still try to put it on an mtb if you reshim it.

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2/19/2023 11:25am
Losifer wrote:
Uh… https://www.instagram.com/p/Co2Eo0ELdpp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= of course, it could be a moto fork. 

Uh…

https://www.instagram.com/p/Co2Eo0ELdpp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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of course, it could be a moto fork. 

jamesma wrote:
yeah, there was a post a while back that clarified they're for e-motos. The background of the insta photo also looks like it features e-motos... that...

yeah, there was a post a while back that clarified they're for e-motos. The background of the insta photo also looks like it features e-motos...

that said, you could still try to put it on an mtb if you reshim it.

Ha! I didn’t even notice the background!

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2/19/2023 2:16pm

whats going on? wasnt he the guy who helped bring the sight to market???

New video just dropped... More telling info in the comments. https://youtu.be/0zDz6hWZn_Y

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2/20/2023 2:12am

from jesse‘s IG: what bike is jose borges on?

top tube looks really low slung and looks like there‘s a brace in the front triangle like on the slayer… but could just be the top of a waterbottle?!

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2/20/2023 2:52am
krabo83 wrote:
from jesse‘s IG: what bike is jose borges on? top tube looks really low slung and looks like there‘s a brace in the front triangle like...

from jesse‘s IG: what bike is jose borges on?

top tube looks really low slung and looks like there‘s a brace in the front triangle like on the slayer… but could just be the top of a waterbottle?!

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Nothing new... It is just the water bottle on the Strive

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 Some more traditional style rims coming from zipp? Can’t tell if they’re carbon or aluminum, wondering if zipp is gonna try to sell something to compete with the new reserve alloy wheelsets.

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TannerVal wrote:
 Some more traditional style rims coming from zipp? Can’t tell if they’re carbon or aluminum, wondering if zipp is gonna try to sell something to compete...

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 Some more traditional style rims coming from zipp? Can’t tell if they’re carbon or aluminum, wondering if zipp is gonna try to sell something to compete with the new reserve alloy wheelsets.

wouldn‘t associate zipp with alu, but maybe they will replace all sram wheels for OEMs, so that move would make sense in that regard.

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Based on the color I'd say they're carbon. But I'm guestimating here. 

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2/21/2023 2:03am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2023 2:09am
Losifer wrote:
Uh… https://www.instagram.com/p/Co2Eo0ELdpp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= of course, it could be a moto fork. 

Uh…

https://www.instagram.com/p/Co2Eo0ELdpp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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of course, it could be a moto fork. 

It's the same fork we saw as nicknamed Era USD to Ferro, here you can see it with stanchion guards, as the Instagram post hints it's a fork intended for light motorcycles and electric motorcycles. Kan være et bilde av 1 person og innendørsd later

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2/21/2023 2:15am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2023 2:32am
mtbboy1993 wrote:
Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement. For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike. I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs...

Interesting, I hope they will improve the engagement.

For some reason the pictures were removed from Pinkbike.

I see a clip keeps the pawls and springs in place, so you won't lose them if you drop the freehub.

image-20230218125448-3

The video is still up.

Great stuff: spare parts guaranteed for 10 years after product is discontinued.

looks to still be easy to work on.

improved sealing.

 

iceman2058 wrote:
“For some reason the pics were removed from Pinkbike” - the reason being that there’s an embargo on the release, which true to form they ignore...

“For some reason the pics were removed from Pinkbike” - the reason being that there’s an embargo on the release, which true to form they ignore by “accidentally” posting stuff to open pages while they prepare their articles…time and time again. “Oh we’re sorry this happened….again… [insert facepalm]…”

Hope has posted it on their social media yesterday, sb also posted pics of the trailer with huge model of a hub on a hanger. so in UK you might see a huge PRO 5 hub in traffic.

Hope Posted the video on social media: https://www.facebook.com/hopetech/videos/2166281513582107/

The announcement on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hopetech/posts/pfbid037WRYNLuKWow3JR8e8Lv9JLik…

They posted it on instagram too

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159444294547406&set=p.1015944…

SB Saw this:Kan være et bilde av utendørs

and bs else saw this:Kan være et bilde av utendørs

https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/hope-introduces-all-new-pro…

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-hope-pro-5-hubs.html

 

I see the engagement has greatly increased: 3.3 degrees.

Hope has always claimed they do what they do to have strongest, most reliable hub they can, so the engagement suffered, but this looks promising, but maybe it's strong enough on the Pro 5. For me reliability, durability, and engagement is important, I considered Onyx, due to the engagement.

But  for the cheaper but reliable hubs, Hope is back at the top in competition, no longer the least engagement.

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2/21/2023 2:39am

Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.

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2/21/2023 3:11am
sharpy212 wrote:
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...

Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.

I can't seem to find the article anymore, but I'm pretty sure the 'Sylence' hubs were dropped because of manufacturing/reliability issues. I think it had something to do with the hubs getting 'too expensive' if the quality control was at the level they wanted, but that could be hearsay. That was also around the time that Shimano had that big factory fire which may have put a dent into any new products and developments. 

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2/21/2023 3:51am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2023 9:04am
sharpy212 wrote:
Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a...

Like the idea of silent hubs, anyone use the onyx ones? What’s the bearing life like? And why did Shimano ditch there plans to release a silent hub, remember seeing some being tested by various media outlets. then the idea was scrapped.

I have a set of wheels with Onyx hubs for six years now (with ceramic bearings). Little hub service (open/clean/re grease) intervals at 1.5 / 2 years and had to change the bearings after 4 years. Sparg clutch and every other parts are still in perfect condition. Onyx hubs are quite on the heavy side with 473 g. for a standard 148 boost rear hub.
For silent hubs, another option is the new Tairin silent hubs recently released (360 g.), with a disengaging Chris King or DT system. Or else is the Box component stealth hub with unidirectional bearings (500 g. and never saw a review of those).

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2/21/2023 5:37am

Regarding the Pro5, what rims will be introduced for the 24h and the 28h versions of the hub? No info on Hope’s website…

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