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He is still following banshee so maaybe a new model release?
For someone who claims the bike industry is nothing but hype and B.S. he sure does a whole lot of hype and over-the-top B.S. hyperbole
it's just a gold banshee legend with the usual Manitous. Aston will still crack it anyway
What you are describing is exactly what some here define as "not a 6 bar" so you seem to agree and so do I. I don't believe Knolly ever called their system a 6bar and they were very early adopters of the linkage driven Horst, maybe even the first ?
Now for all those moaning and calling some nerds, properly naming and defining things allows for much more fluid and unambiguous discussions down the line. I don't see how this is an issue. Most people that know just a smidge about suspension know the difference between a Horst/4bar and a faux bar for instance, no reason why a faux 6bar and a 6bar can't be defined so we can describe new bikes easily latter.
Is @KeithBanshee still around here to throw few bones?
New Scott Ransom dropping?
Dangerholm has a post showing a bike which seems to be in the ~160mm travel range but also rather similar to a spark (headtube area):
announced for tomorrow
The front part then looks rather similar to this picture from german BIKE magazine:
The caption mentions the "most exciting new products from autumn"...
Note the belly at the bottom bracket and the known horst-link setup (not going the bold route)
what do you guys think?
As numerous people have mentioned in this thread, nobody will buy it because of the headset routed cables.
True..
And just to be really sure they added their annoying twinlock remote stuff and a hidden shock
Can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not? Sadly for most of us on this forum I suspect that is not likely to be the case - hopefully the world proves me wrong on this one…
Rather the Genius. These Fox don't look bigger than 34s and has the Twinlock.
Sharp looking bike for sure ! Even if I'm not a big fan of the hidden shock design. And the headset cable routing... 😤
Personally I don't like that headtube / stem area. Way too bulky
Just a few notes/opinions:
1) The current Genius uses a Fox 36 because the 34 is no longer available in 150 mm. Even the 34 that Scott used on the Genius before the change was a beefed up version using the e-bike CSU. So either it isn't a 34, or it isn't 150+ mm travel. Edit: I've read some chatter of a Spark LT, which might have a 34.
2) Twinloc is great.
3) Dangerholm should be looking for new shorts not a new bike.
4) It's already 3/11 here, hurry up Scott.
LOL - Was looking at the new Genius/ransom but if it has headset routing, that'll be a solid no.
I already know a bunch of specs but cant say any details and was never told it had headset routing.
The frame is not that far from having all the room for a Fazua (or similar) motor...
Half the room for a possible e-motor is taken by the hidden shock…
Possibly a proprietary stem and bar with that inline headset? Will turn off a lot of people but potentially kind of cool.
This got me thinking. Internal cable routing was a disaster in its first iteration. To play with magnets and fiddle the cable through the frame…sounded like a rattlesnake.
now they sorted everything and it is straightforward (wireless is still from this perspective the easiest solution).
Internal cable-routing looks neat and needed time.
ngl had to unfollow him and Aston because of the whole „this and only this is the best and everything else is garbage“
Can the bike industry do better? Sure, but I don’t want to be bombarded all the time by how shit everything is, I’ve got the normal news for that.
also, Genius is up on binkpike. As expected from Scott there are a lot of cables, and everything is internal. Bike mechanics hate this simple trick.
https://m.pinkbike.com/photo/23664559/
Good luck routing that without cable channels
here's all the new scott genius tech in a video below and our PR here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/new-2023-scott-genius-heads…
The current one for reference
For all you Twinloc haters out there, the new Genius ST model disconnects the fork from the dual lockout so it's rear-only (and it's available with a reservoir shock).
So I can't figure out the brake cable routing for the new Scott.
They seem to cross over in the grommet that connects between the front and rear triangle...?
I can't imagine how they don't pull when the shock compresses. I know that all cables must move, but these seem to just pull tight around the shock. Is that the case? The cable routing is already suspect, but that grommet and crossover has me concerned.
It also makes it damn difficult to size cables, routing them under the bottom pivot like that. As if the cables weren't already a difficulty
I was half expecting the fork lockout cable to go through the headset and somehow through the steerer tube and come out under the crown...
Deep breath........
i have no idea if updated dissector or not, but that genius vid was just CAD/animation. maybe the tire rendering wasn't spot on?
After watching that video, I love my rigid single-speed even more.
The dissector seems to just be an anomaly of when Scott is using their renderings for the bike. if you look on this page, all of the images that appear to be rendered, show the dissector with close spacing https://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/genius
Bikerumor actually has some interesting shots of the marketing presentation materials from what I can only assume was the press event for this bike. It shows some rather neat cut away's for the frame and shock that shed a bit more light on the twinlock shock designs and the frame routing for cabling.
It is a pretty big miss IMO to conceal the shock in the frame, and then not provide fully sleeved internal routing. I would always prefer external routing to internal... but going through the PITA nature of the stem routed cabling, burying the shock and then just wrapping the cables in foam to stop rattles is pretty bass ackwards to me.