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hamncheez2003 3/9/2021 6:06am
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hamncheez, what do you mean? mullet made that post under their own account. if they want to delete it, they can. i was bummed to see...
hamncheez, what do you mean? mullet made that post under their own account. if they want to delete it, they can. i was bummed to see it removed, but it was their call, and they sent an email letting us know they pulled it, so we knew what was going on.
Sorry, to be more clear, I meant the communities response to the guy. It was clear that it was just one guy with all those accounts, and he was acting irrationally, but I don't remember him actually attacking anyone personally (other than that one comment that was deleted), but everyone ganged up on him. He might have deserved it, but man he really did put a lot of work into that press release. Those builds with their color coordination were well done, but every comment besides his own just trashed the bike.

If the dude has mental issues, then cyber bullying isn't going to help with that. I just feel really bad for the guy.
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Primoz 3/9/2021 6:12am
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It was less than ideal from both sides, for sure, but it would help a lot to at least give some information instead of buckling down and beating his own drum, calling out "geeks". People on the Internet will be idiots (case in point over here), but it's just people on the Internet. At the end of the day it's a bit different when a company does it. People depend on the companies for their livelihoods, while the same is not true of idiots on the Internet (at least not in my case, I have a secure, good job outside the industry, one that I should be doing right now instead of being an idiot on the Internet 😁).
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juliusk 3/9/2021 6:44am
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Noeserd wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/03/09/10559/s1200_IMG_2086.jpg[/img]
Wow, what dumbass was intelligent enought to post that embargo in their instagram story...
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juliusk wrote:
Wow, what dumbass was intelligent enought to post that embargo in their instagram story...
rileywilllliams !

Woo, I feel like one of those bike sleuths that can map out rear wheel path based on a blurry picture taken of a proto from a gondola 2 miles away.
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jonkranked 3/9/2021 8:24am
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Primoz wrote:
It was less than ideal from both sides, for sure, but it would help a lot to at least give some information instead of buckling down...
It was less than ideal from both sides, for sure, but it would help a lot to at least give some information instead of buckling down and beating his own drum, calling out "geeks". People on the Internet will be idiots (case in point over here), but it's just people on the Internet. At the end of the day it's a bit different when a company does it. People depend on the companies for their livelihoods, while the same is not true of idiots on the Internet (at least not in my case, I have a secure, good job outside the industry, one that I should be doing right now instead of being an idiot on the Internet 😁).
i did check the time stamps on the comments while they were active, it didn't start off bad, but it devolved quickly when they refused to answer questions and it became readily apparent that there were some shenanigans occurring from their side (multiple accounts, etc). i can only feel so bad for them when they start off their press release "No marketing bs...." then proceed with nothing but marketing BS and a stubborn refusal to answer technical questions.

I've seen the identical press release on numerous sites now, with similar coordinated efforts in the comment section. one of my favorites was "I absolutely LOVE that they don’t go in-depth with the frame numbers. I’ve been in the bike biz trenches for almost 30 years and I can’t stand talking to box-reader internet junkie consumers about stack and reach numbers like it matters. BECAUSE IT DOESN’T. EVER." they seem to be oblivious to the fact that posting press release son these websites is only going to invite these kinds of discussions and questions, because that's where the better informed mtb consumer is going for information, and they will be completely written off for the kind of response they had.

for me personally, the fact that they liked to talk about their patented suspension, yet refused to post the patent # or even answer any questions about it is extremely suspect.
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sspomer 3/9/2021 8:52am
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re: mullet (and we can just let it go after this and keep to actual tech rumors please) - we ended up locking/deleting an account or two IIRC. it's pretty obvious when comments are trying to be stacked and we'll handle accordingly. there was one person we thought was a duplicate account (same IP address) but it was two diff people from the same bike shop apparently. they emailed explaining and seemed genuine enough in their email, so it's not always cut and dry. it's done here though, so let's move on with high pivot gossip : )
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jonkranked 3/9/2021 8:59am
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i for one like the name Norco Embargo. has a nice ring to it.
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stoic_machine 3/9/2021 9:38am
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metadave wrote:
The trek for reference [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/03/08/10558/s1200_p3pb20249576.jpg[/img]
The trek for reference


That's a new carbon rim as well. the profile is much flatter than whats currently offered by Bontrager.
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nskerb 3/9/2021 9:49am
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Rbags wrote:
The new transition patrol will have 170mm rear travel

The new forbidden will be called the dreadnought and have 150 something travel
Lets see if you're 100% correct on this post
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Zero Cool 3/9/2021 11:12am
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Primoz wrote:
Which guy? :D
It doesn’t matter, they were all the same guy 😜
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Brian_Peterson 3/9/2021 11:25am
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sspomer wrote:
re: mullet (and we can just let it go after this and keep to actual tech rumors please) - we ended up locking/deleting an account or...
re: mullet (and we can just let it go after this and keep to actual tech rumors please) - we ended up locking/deleting an account or two IIRC. it's pretty obvious when comments are trying to be stacked and we'll handle accordingly. there was one person we thought was a duplicate account (same IP address) but it was two diff people from the same bike shop apparently. they emailed explaining and seemed genuine enough in their email, so it's not always cut and dry. it's done here though, so let's move on with high pivot gossip : )
I think I missed the drama.. But, their hardtail looks like it could be a fun bike...
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Rbags 3/9/2021 12:37pm
3/9/2021 12:37pm
Rbags wrote:
The new transition patrol will have 170mm rear travel

The new forbidden will be called the dreadnought and have 150 something travel
nskerb wrote:
Lets see if you're 100% correct on this post
Got the model name of the transition wrong so only 50% correct
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nskerb 3/9/2021 12:42pm
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Rbags wrote:
Got the model name of the transition wrong so only 50% correct
So new transition bike coming?
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Rbags 3/9/2021 12:43pm
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Re the norco, Blenki surely hasn't been racing DH on an enduro bike with boxxers on it has he?
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AndehM 3/9/2021 12:50pm
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Rbags wrote:
The new transition patrol will have 170mm rear travel

The new forbidden will be called the dreadnought and have 150 something travel
nskerb wrote:
Lets see if you're 100% correct on this post
Rbags wrote:
Got the model name of the transition wrong so only 50% correct
No more Patrol from Transition seems crazy. That'd be like Specialized ending the Stumpjumper line.
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Rbags 3/9/2021 12:51pm
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Rbags wrote:
Got the model name of the transition wrong so only 50% correct
nskerb wrote:
So new transition bike coming?
yep, long travel 29
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thegromit 3/9/2021 12:59pm
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Rbags wrote:
Got the model name of the transition wrong so only 50% correct
nskerb wrote:
So new transition bike coming?
Rbags wrote:
yep, long travel 29
Like DH bike long?
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Primoz 3/9/2021 1:53pm
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AndehM wrote:
No more Patrol from Transition seems crazy. That'd be like Specialized ending the Stumpjumper line.
Stumpy went 29". Patrol seemingly hasn't. I mean if the name will change, then it won't.
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bermslapper69 3/9/2021 2:02pm
3/9/2021 2:02pm
Rbags wrote:
Got the model name of the transition wrong so only 50% correct
nskerb wrote:
So new transition bike coming?
Rbags wrote:
yep, long travel 29
Can’t imagine needing anything longer than the sentinel short of a DH bike, are they finally taking it to a 12?
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hamncheez2003 3/9/2021 2:28pm
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[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/03/09/10560/s1200_38BDDFBB_9EED_4244_BD8D_A27EEB644DA5.jpg[/img]

whatever it is, it looks to use the same front triangle mold that all their current models use....
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AndehM 3/9/2021 2:34pm
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Matt G from GG has hinted on RideMonkey that there are subtle tweaks coming to the Trail Pistol geo. Based on the tires in that photo (Dissector/Rekon), that would line up. The wording might be a hint that they're moving to carbon rear ends? They've also mentioned that they're having a hard time getting enough tubing to make rear ends.
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brash 3/9/2021 2:38pm
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judging from that, I'd say the rear triangle going all carbon?
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kev.1n 3/9/2021 2:40pm
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metadave wrote:
The trek for reference [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/03/08/10558/s1200_p3pb20249576.jpg[/img]
The trek for reference


Upon zooming in on the original photo, the rear shock looks a heck of a lot different than the current Super Deluxe. Maybe a new shock in the works from Rockshox? 'Bout time they updated the Super Deluxe to keep up with Fox.
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ORTOGONAL555 3/9/2021 3:09pm
3/9/2021 3:09pm
Oh shoot. Nice catch with the shock. It looks different indeed. It has an old ttx vibe with the orizontal reservoir. Will they come out with an high speed adjustable shock? WC riders might prefer it for quiick changes over having to switch shocks or reshimming them.
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jonkranked 3/9/2021 3:13pm
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brash wrote:
judging from that, I'd say the rear triangle going all carbon?
That's my interpretation, so I'll second the guess of carbon rear ends.
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jonkranked 3/9/2021 3:14pm
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AndehM wrote:
Matt G from GG has hinted on RideMonkey that there are subtle tweaks coming to the Trail Pistol geo. Based on the tires in that photo...
Matt G from GG has hinted on RideMonkey that there are subtle tweaks coming to the Trail Pistol geo. Based on the tires in that photo (Dissector/Rekon), that would line up. The wording might be a hint that they're moving to carbon rear ends? They've also mentioned that they're having a hard time getting enough tubing to make rear ends.
I hope this doesn't make the pistola redundant.
jason.west.750 3/9/2021 3:30pm
3/9/2021 3:30pm
Poo brown? 🤔🤔 I miss flashy colors
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