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12/21/2024 6:39pm
TSMTB wrote:

NO comment 😉 the old boy Running the team will be happy with his pace I reCkon thO 

cmunro wrote:

Danny Norco...

Who? Never heard of Danny Norco. Jr rider? 😁 

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12/21/2024 6:47pm
Just listened to the MUTN podcast , moves I hadn't heard before were Cam Bal to Yeti , heather Wilson to Mondraker and Greg Williamson to...

Just listened to the MUTN podcast , moves I hadn't heard before were Cam Bal to Yeti , heather Wilson to Mondraker and Greg Williamson to Gamux .

The other one was the MS team off Mondraker frames and on GT but obviously that looks unlikely now although I would imagine contracts would of been already signed so who knows.

Worth adding that the rumor about felix Griffiths paying for a spot on the syndicate is untrue and he's there the same as any other rider .

It was striking how many big names there are outside of the ranked teams that might not be able to race world cups  next year.

Did NOT have Cam to Yeti on my bingo card; stoked to see what she and Richie can do!

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12/21/2024 9:57pm
dolface wrote:
Maybe the team's not dead?

Maybe the team's not dead?

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pretty sure jesse will be a one man show on canyon, i guess he‘s the only one with a contract for 2025 (signed 3 years AFAIK).

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Just listened to the MUTN podcast , moves I hadn't heard before were Cam Bal to Yeti , heather Wilson to Mondraker and Greg Williamson to...

Just listened to the MUTN podcast , moves I hadn't heard before were Cam Bal to Yeti , heather Wilson to Mondraker and Greg Williamson to Gamux .

The other one was the MS team off Mondraker frames and on GT but obviously that looks unlikely now although I would imagine contracts would of been already signed so who knows.

Worth adding that the rumor about felix Griffiths paying for a spot on the syndicate is untrue and he's there the same as any other rider .

It was striking how many big names there are outside of the ranked teams that might not be able to race world cups  next year.

MS was already on intense in 2024, so that can‘t be true.

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12/21/2024 10:45pm
Just listened to the MUTN podcast , moves I hadn't heard before were Cam Bal to Yeti , heather Wilson to Mondraker and Greg Williamson to...

Just listened to the MUTN podcast , moves I hadn't heard before were Cam Bal to Yeti , heather Wilson to Mondraker and Greg Williamson to Gamux .

The other one was the MS team off Mondraker frames and on GT but obviously that looks unlikely now although I would imagine contracts would of been already signed so who knows.

Worth adding that the rumor about felix Griffiths paying for a spot on the syndicate is untrue and he's there the same as any other rider .

It was striking how many big names there are outside of the ranked teams that might not be able to race world cups  next year.

krabo83 wrote:

MS was already on intense in 2024, so that can‘t be true.

Sorry , my mistake. It was off Intense and on GT .

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12/22/2024 12:12am

Sorry , my mistake. It was off Intense and on GT .

for real, after just 1 season?!

Maxipedia
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12/22/2024 2:16am

How can they be on GT, given what we know about GT these days???

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12/22/2024 2:25am

Based on what has been said about GT, it seems the decision was, for all intents and purposes, quite abrupt. Could be MS was making a deal or had a deal done before GT got the rug pulled from underneath of them. On the other hand you'd think someone approving budgets would know of both the option of GT getting hibernated AND the MS deal being in the works and might give a heads up on not letting the deal being made? On the third hand said person privy to that information could not care one bit about the MS team and just let it happen (the infamous bean counters in suits and all).

All of this is pure speculation obviously.

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12/22/2024 2:26am

Sorry , my mistake. It was off Intense and on GT .

krabo83 wrote:

for real, after just 1 season?!

That's what they said on the podcast. I could see Intense only wanting to support one team at the world cup and I'm guessing the cost of supporting MS would be higher than the IFR setup .

MS didn't have a great year last season and according to MUTN they had added a few riders for points but they might be in trouble if the GT deal falls through. Fingers crossed for them . 

They did say where Monika Hrastnik was going but I can't remember , I'm getting old 😁

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12/22/2024 5:45am

jakob jewett off pfr!

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12/22/2024 5:57am
der5te wrote:

jakob jewett off pfr!

He announced this on his instagram almost a week ago… 

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12/22/2024 6:08am
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jakob jewett off pfr!

Hello, and Welcome to Last Week

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12/22/2024 8:36am Edited Date/Time 12/22/2024 2:27pm

Loris🏳️‍🌈 to commençal, good source 😉😉

12/22/2024 8:43am

Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.

Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these days. They are so big and make product for so many other companies, maybe they are one of the few that is not tanking right now?

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12/22/2024 8:49am
Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these...

Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.

Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these days. They are so big and make product for so many other companies, maybe they are one of the few that is not tanking right now?

Giant seems to have their problems too.. They are probably able to weather the storm a bit better.. I've heard they owe Shimano some big money, not sure if the numbers are accurate.  I've heard many big players owe Shimano some big money,  I wonder how they are doing?  I'd assume the picture is similar for Sram..

12/22/2024 10:14am
Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these...

Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.

Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these days. They are so big and make product for so many other companies, maybe they are one of the few that is not tanking right now?

Giant seems to have their problems too.. They are probably able to weather the storm a bit better.. I've heard they owe Shimano some big money...

Giant seems to have their problems too.. They are probably able to weather the storm a bit better.. I've heard they owe Shimano some big money, not sure if the numbers are accurate.  I've heard many big players owe Shimano some big money,  I wonder how they are doing?  I'd assume the picture is similar for Sram..

If the brands that Giant manufactures frames for are struggling to pay bills, Giant could be struggling because of it. 

Giant is in a weird position where they could be less effected by sales slow downs because they manufacture for multiple other companies. 

On the other hand if multiple of those companies can't pay or are late paying Giant, cash flow issues could multiply quickly. 

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12/22/2024 11:20am
Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these...

Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.

Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these days. They are so big and make product for so many other companies, maybe they are one of the few that is not tanking right now?

Giant seems to have their problems too.. They are probably able to weather the storm a bit better.. I've heard they owe Shimano some big money...

Giant seems to have their problems too.. They are probably able to weather the storm a bit better.. I've heard they owe Shimano some big money, not sure if the numbers are accurate.  I've heard many big players owe Shimano some big money,  I wonder how they are doing?  I'd assume the picture is similar for Sram..

I'd assume the picture is worse with Shimano. Most the way through COVID brands knew not to overbuy on SRAM because the transmission cannon was about to go off so I feel like they biased toward Shimano. That way if transmission didn't work out well at least there is still reasonably high end Shimano stuff they can use (XT and xtr). Now with new Shimano about to drop brands are really sweating it. Not to mention Shimano still owns the "low end" (below deore/nx) side of the market. 

To tie this back to team rumors I would expect giant to run a team, probably one of the larger teams on the circuit and probably fill it with young up and comers who need to stability. 

I wonder if we ever get to a point where the UCI starts helping teams, revenue sharing if you will. They hold part of team fees in something like escrow to ensure that the little teams come out with enough at the end of the year to compete next year. All the big leagues seem to be doing it these days to ensure financial stability in uncertainty. 

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12/22/2024 12:25pm Edited Date/Time 12/22/2024 12:26pm
Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these...

Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.

Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these days. They are so big and make product for so many other companies, maybe they are one of the few that is not tanking right now?

Giant seems to have their problems too.. They are probably able to weather the storm a bit better.. I've heard they owe Shimano some big money...

Giant seems to have their problems too.. They are probably able to weather the storm a bit better.. I've heard they owe Shimano some big money, not sure if the numbers are accurate.  I've heard many big players owe Shimano some big money,  I wonder how they are doing?  I'd assume the picture is similar for Sram..

samnation wrote:
I'd assume the picture is worse with Shimano. Most the way through COVID brands knew not to overbuy on SRAM because the transmission cannon was about...

I'd assume the picture is worse with Shimano. Most the way through COVID brands knew not to overbuy on SRAM because the transmission cannon was about to go off so I feel like they biased toward Shimano. That way if transmission didn't work out well at least there is still reasonably high end Shimano stuff they can use (XT and xtr). Now with new Shimano about to drop brands are really sweating it. Not to mention Shimano still owns the "low end" (below deore/nx) side of the market. 

To tie this back to team rumors I would expect giant to run a team, probably one of the larger teams on the circuit and probably fill it with young up and comers who need to stability. 

I wonder if we ever get to a point where the UCI starts helping teams, revenue sharing if you will. They hold part of team fees in something like escrow to ensure that the little teams come out with enough at the end of the year to compete next year. All the big leagues seem to be doing it these days to ensure financial stability in uncertainty. 

Not meaning to stir up the "dh isn't F1!!!!" folks but their rev share system is a good example of it working in a way that can benefit "struggling" teams - seeing Alpine (dead last start of season, even making Sauber look good) suddenly have a better outlook for next season after having a killer weekend, bumping up a few spots in the Constructor's and getting an extra ~$10m could be a good model for how to keep lower-funded teams with riders that can occasionally deliver big results but generally stay in the 10th-25th range afloat and building year over year

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12/22/2024 12:27pm
Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these...

Jewett bros to Giant with the Aussie bros? That would be a pretty rowdy team of rippers.

Haven't heard much word about how Giant is doing these days. They are so big and make product for so many other companies, maybe they are one of the few that is not tanking right now?

If Putin/Trump hit the big red buttons and nukes are flying, there will be 2 things left in existence.

Cockroaches

Giant Bicycles

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12/22/2024 12:40pm
brash wrote:

If Putin/Trump hit the big red buttons and nukes are flying, there will be 2 things left in existence.

Cockroaches

Giant Bicycles

Giant cockroaches riding bicycles?

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12/22/2024 1:07pm
kevroberts wrote:

Changes afoot at another team.

Some rumblings of an axis of S banding together to follow this - Scotland, Switzerland and Slovenia.

12/22/2024 1:14pm
bnsleit wrote:
Not meaning to stir up the "dh isn't F1!!!!" folks but their rev share system is a good example of it working in a way that...

Not meaning to stir up the "dh isn't F1!!!!" folks but their rev share system is a good example of it working in a way that can benefit "struggling" teams - seeing Alpine (dead last start of season, even making Sauber look good) suddenly have a better outlook for next season after having a killer weekend, bumping up a few spots in the Constructor's and getting an extra ~$10m could be a good model for how to keep lower-funded teams with riders that can occasionally deliver big results but generally stay in the 10th-25th range afloat and building year over year

Exactly! and F1 all but admitted with the Cadillac deal that it's quality over quantity in pro sports. 

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12/22/2024 1:14pm
kevroberts wrote:

Changes afoot at another team.

Primoz wrote:

Some rumblings of an axis of S banding together to follow this - Scotland, Switzerland and Slovenia.

Wilson Gates Unior??

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12/22/2024 2:26pm Edited Date/Time 12/23/2024 1:14am

Just leaving this one here for you guys Smile


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Edit 23.12.2024 - I do not allow Pinkbike or any other outlet to use this picture. Vital Team Rumors exclusive!

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12/22/2024 11:12pm Edited Date/Time 12/22/2024 11:18pm

Damn, came here to post that, but been sniped!

This is one I didn't expect..... Thought Max would hang onto Erice's contract for a few years yet!

 

Edit 
Although now scrolling thru Max's insta, there's not one pic or reel of Erice that I spotted?

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12/22/2024 11:19pm
shreda wrote:
Just leaving this one here for you guys :)Edit 23.12.2024 - I do not allow Pinkbike or any other outlet to use this picture. Vital Team...

Just leaving this one here for you guys Smile


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Edit 23.12.2024 - I do not allow Pinkbike or any other outlet to use this picture. Vital Team Rumors exclusive!

Hm, Reece going for that 100G prize money from gates it seems, this could be interesting.

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12/22/2024 11:34pm
shreda wrote:
Just leaving this one here for you guys :)Edit 23.12.2024 - I do not allow Pinkbike or any other outlet to use this picture. Vital Team...

Just leaving this one here for you guys Smile


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Edit 23.12.2024 - I do not allow Pinkbike or any other outlet to use this picture. Vital Team Rumors exclusive!

Jakub_G wrote:

Hm, Reece going for that 100G prize money from gates it seems, this could be interesting.

This would be mental if it happened and Reece is always that dark horse, Suddenly he finds those 'faster than everyone else' lines come finals.

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12/23/2024 12:12am
Dave Waugh wrote:
Damn, came here to post that, but been sniped!This is one I didn't expect..... Thought Max would hang onto Erice's contract for a few years yet!  ...

Damn, came here to post that, but been sniped!

This is one I didn't expect..... Thought Max would hang onto Erice's contract for a few years yet!

 

Edit 
Although now scrolling thru Max's insta, there's not one pic or reel of Erice that I spotted?

Amazing programs like the Les Orres team  probably won't be at the world cups. Hopefully she is going to YT with Vali. It would be great to see them compete with FMD. We need teams with more than one female rider.  

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12/23/2024 12:22am

The maple leaf got some heavy hitters in 2025

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