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maybe that gwin on frameworks rumor is true.
still hope he‘ll be back on yeti 🤞
Unless he has uci points or on a factory team i highly doubt it.
I mean how could it NOT be AG? ...I'll check roots and rain but I'm pretty sure Gwin satisfies the conditions (elite men and "been on a podium"*) !
M.Whiteley is managing the team, talking long term, N.America, has a long successful relationship with Gwin, it's just too damn perfect.
*the way he said that was perfectly understated..."been on a podium"...this dude RUMORS!
Great podcast. Great guest: go listen to the Downtime eps with Whiteley from last year if you haven't, they were great.
His WC1 / WC2 format sounds fantastic. Guaranteed TV time for the top 20 from the previous season, keeping the big teams happy, and the 21-60 guys can send it on Saturday and make the big show on Sunday? Works for me. Put this dude in charge of everything.
Whitely also manages Dak who's contract is up and who is also local to Neko and who has podiumed on WC's.
We have no inside info other than what was shared on the pod but, if it was Aaron wouldn’t he have said “has won a World Cup” rather than “been on a podium”?
Our best guess afterwards was Angel…
Brook?
Seen as frameworks have signed Asa. They'll be looking to add another of the new Generation of Shredders. The Crispy weather in the south east might slow down the testing process though
aha! So Gwin it is!
Crispy has podiumed in Juniors so that's plausible.
Crispy is Chris grice’s nickname who lives/trains in same area as neko.
The only way to know for sure is if the teams that restructure'' had agreements in place for 2024 & have actually folded....or not
There is very little of that going on. Don’t forget race teams are just marketing, and when money is tight one of the first things that gets cut is marketing budgets. That means race teams and influencers- on influencers has ever influenced me to buy a product.
Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm, but can someone above explain to me how you think FrameWorks would be able to pay Gwin anything close to his value? We are talking about "the million dollar" man here, at least a handful of seasons ago...
With equity! Neko migh made $500k of revenue in 2 days selling his dh frame. If he sells his Enduro frame next year, he might make $5M, the sky is the limit for the most business savy US racer..
Dak is hot property at the moment but I reckon he might be more interested in finding the right equipment and structure to satisfy his performance ambition than a fat paycheck (which in my eyes makes him even more an hero of the sport)..
I don't have any intel, I'm just shooting ideas...
Gwin is maybe not as much the 1miilion dollar racer than he used to be, sure he brings new thinks on the table (like name recognition, product development, commentating, mentoring, etc) but even if he is still able of greatness, he is not a sure bet worldcup winner like when he dominated season after seasons.
It would be weird and not really financially reasonable for Yeti to develop a bike, run a DH race team for only one racer. It would makes lots of sense for them to recruit a couple new team members.....
I feel like USDH has never been so exciting... We can dream of 100% US worldcup podium (Dak, Gwin, Pinkie, Luca, Rude...!!)
I hope it translates into a domestic racing revival.
Neko has stated many times that he didn’t start the company to sell bikes. I think it’s very unlikely we will see Gwin on one next season.
Neko just said on a pod, he's not giving away any part of his company. He's not taking a loan and not looking for partners.
I know he said on a podcast recently (can't remember which one) that part of Asa's deal was equity in the company so that is not really true.
not saying your wrong cause there's obviously ambiguity but just listened to this:
downtime pod 1:38:30 "Ive gotten this far with the project without taking on any loan or giving any part of my company to outside investment. Logan and I are able to do it all ourselves.... everything we've done so far, I've spent my own money."
Martin Whiteley also talked about outside sponsorship for the team so Frameworks wouldn't have to pay Gwin's (or whoever's) salary
i guess i missed it, which podcast?
Making Up the Numbers. Latest episode. It's a great one.
The latest Making Up The Numbers has Martin Whiteley and other team discussion
Gwins his own boss, being an underling in someone else's team is not really his style.
Nekos FW project has been so cool to watch develop. Best mtb content in years imho. Can't wait to see what's next.
Gwinn is not signing with anyone in 2024. Will buy his own bikes and do his own thing.
Martin whitely will be helping and running the Frameworks team
Macdonald to yeti, they are running a DH team from 2024 onwards.
Richie Rude will be riding EWS as a main for 23 and doing some DH races in '24
The ews will fold in 2025 along with other Enduro style races due to terrible coverage and marketing over the last 2 years.
MS Gammux seems legit.
Mondraker will have some fast youngsters on their new factory team
Intense to start a US based youth program.
Santacruz and Pon are handing out HECTIC industry deals to get rid of as much stock as possible.
fearon without a ride for 24 still
Canyon reducing EDR teams
All the forbidden team have signed another 2 year contract. (May just be enduro not DH though)
What will happen to them when EDR is not about for 2025 and goes ebike?
I know it seems to be the hot topic but think about it.
They won't just bin EDR. There's loads of teams that don't race EDR E. Plus one of the main reasons EDR E is only in Europe is because, we all have the same speed restrictions. Plus shipping batterys around the world is frowned apon.
The UK national race series has only just introduced ebikes this year and there was still 1000s of riders on normal bikes. We won't wake up news years day 2025 and all be riding ebikes.
sales numbers germany 2022:
sold mountainbikes without a motor: 95600
sold mountainbikes with a motor: 836000
95,000 people don't race ebikes.
Looks like Danny Hart's off Cube. Apologies if its already been mentioned pages ago.
If MacDonald goes to Yeti could Danny return to Mondraker?
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