cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites is under. It's getting ugly out there esp with Outside also controlling BRAIN. I've intentionally been trying to give Vital a lot more of my clicks and Outside entities a lot less.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Dude spent millions on outdated media publications that were only hardly profitable even when they were extremely lean. He also bought the majority of them at peak valuation and now the industry is undoubtedly headed towards a small recession and possibly a monumental one if the world economy continues to dip. I’m sure the vast majority of paid subscribers they gained by buying pinkbike/beta dipped as soon as they folded beta. Cycling tips will be no different. With how many ways advertisers can reach consumers in the modern age I have no idea how he ever thought he’d get a return on investment. No matter how many brands you buy you aren’t going to monopolize how people discuss bikes/outdoor recreation on the internet.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
Damn. First BETA (former BikeMag staff) got axed, then layoffs at Pinkbike and now Cycling Tips is next in line.
Robin Thurston sure has a talent for running businesses into the ground.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites...
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites is under. It's getting ugly out there esp with Outside also controlling BRAIN. I've intentionally been trying to give Vital a lot more of my clicks and Outside entities a lot less.
Discovery - Owns Play Sports, which includes GCN, GMBN, and all those various channels.
Immediate Media - Bike Radar, MBUK, Cycling Plus.
Future Publishing - CyclingNews, Bike Perfect, Pro Cycling, MBR, Cycling Weekly.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
tried listening to the podcast on the other site where they had thurston on, had to switch off after 20 minutes because that guy is such an insufferable and unlikeable piece of shit
too bad about CT, while I’m not really following road racing I liked to read it for the tech nerdery and widening my bike horizon a bit.
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023? Or is he just really into Souvlaki?
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did...
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did screen testing for discovery but won’t be doing the main job.
Blenki to Cube.
I know not technically racing but riders are getting upset with the scoring at rampage and there might be a lot less of them there next year. This is according to Davi on the ride companion talking to Andreu Lacondeguy
Anyone any insight into what’s happening with Gracie Hemstreet? What teams are missing a female rider?
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team, there is a good chance it could be Phil Atwill. I know Phil was not on the Propain factory team, but if they are folding one they might fold Propain Positive too. Phil on the Pivot team would be incredible...
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team...
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team, there is a good chance it could be Phil Atwill. I know Phil was not on the Propain factory team, but if they are folding one they might fold Propain Positive too. Phil on the Pivot team would be incredible...
I think the Leatt team is in Athens, not just Pivot. For what it's worth, Tippie is there too and I have my doubts he's the new Pivot rider...
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did...
So what I’ve heard on the podcasts I’ve recently listened to.
Pivot are getting a new male rider, unsure if it’s addition or replacement.
Wynn did screen testing for discovery but won’t be doing the main job.
Blenki to Cube.
I know not technically racing but riders are getting upset with the scoring at rampage and there might be a lot less of them there next year. This is according to Davi on the ride companion talking to Andreu Lacondeguy
Anyone any insight into what’s happening with Gracie Hemstreet? What teams are missing a female rider?
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team...
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team, there is a good chance it could be Phil Atwill. I know Phil was not on the Propain factory team, but if they are folding one they might fold Propain Positive too. Phil on the Pivot team would be incredible...
Phil's also not a Propain Factory rider technically. He's on Propain Positive/Vee
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023...
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023? Or is he just really into Souvlaki?
Phil is running his own program with support from Propain and a few others. Mind you it's only Propain Factory Racing who paused for 2023. Propain didn't just stop sponsoring riders altogether and Phil wasn't on the factory team.
Very unlikely that Phil is the new Pivot rider. That being said, if I had a bike brand and a racing team, I'd move heaven and earth to get him on my team. One of the most stylish riders around. Propain has done incredibly well signing him.
Jesse is posting a lot of highlights of the season in his Instagram stories. Kinda like he's reminiscing the season he had with rocky before moving on? Maybe? Just reminiscing?
Jesse is posting a lot of highlights of the season in his Instagram stories. Kinda like he's reminiscing the season he had with rocky before moving...
Jesse is posting a lot of highlights of the season in his Instagram stories. Kinda like he's reminiscing the season he had with rocky before moving on? Maybe? Just reminiscing?
It’s cold outside and it’s his job to put out content. While it seems Jesse is definitely on the move I wouldn’t look too much into riders putting together highlight reels in November/December.
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value...
cyclingtips layoff chaos followed by loads of canceled subs (according to comments). sucks for those who got the axe as that community seemed to really value what they did.
"Today Caley Fretz, Dave Rome, Matt de Neef and Daniel Benson (Editor-in-Chief of VN) were let go. Plus lots of other staff (including Steve Brawley who has been with CT for years in sales) and others throughout the company. 12% in total.
What a clusterfcuk OutsideInc is. Robin Thurston has gotten his head over his skis and singlehandedly fcuked up dozens of good media publications in just 2 years.
Goodbye CT. It was good while it lasted."
Super bummed about this. Though CyclingTips focus was mostly road/gravel, their podcast Nerd Alert had amazing coverage of tech innovation - carbon recycling, additive mfg, supply chain deep-dives, all kinds of enlightening stuff, and a healthy (and entertaining) skepticism of “but it’s 3 watts faster!”. Cough, headset cable routing. Dave Rome’s tool obsessions are dorky in the best way. And most of them ride mountain bikes too. Hoping for good things for them in the future.
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's taken care of.
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's...
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's taken care of.
She did post few days ago that she will be spending this winter in Wales and not at home in Fort William
She spent a lot of time up there last year as well - at one point when the rumours were about who Pivot was signing as a new female rider, I speculated it might be her as she was in several BK vlogs- shows how shit my speculation is!
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's...
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's taken care of.
Surprised no one has mentioned the red head in Whistler wearing a RedBull helmet and riding a Session, had me fooled until my kid pointed out that it wasn't a POC helmet.
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023...
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023? Or is he just really into Souvlaki?
Or to do be there to support one of his big sponsors in introducing their 2024 line up...
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's...
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's taken care of.
Surprised no one has mentioned the red head in Whistler wearing a RedBull helmet and riding a Session, had me fooled until my kid pointed out...
Surprised no one has mentioned the red head in Whistler wearing a RedBull helmet and riding a Session, had me fooled until my kid pointed out that it wasn't a POC helmet.
Team Media Rumors -
Spoomer - would be interesting to see an article about bike media consolidation and what corp entity each of the major sites is under. It's getting ugly out there esp with Outside also controlling BRAIN. I've intentionally been trying to give Vital a lot more of my clicks and Outside entities a lot less.
Cannondale sent out an email this morning announcing this. A significant move being riding for them for 8 years.
Dude spent millions on outdated media publications that were only hardly profitable even when they were extremely lean. He also bought the majority of them at peak valuation and now the industry is undoubtedly headed towards a small recession and possibly a monumental one if the world economy continues to dip. I’m sure the vast majority of paid subscribers they gained by buying pinkbike/beta dipped as soon as they folded beta. Cycling tips will be no different. With how many ways advertisers can reach consumers in the modern age I have no idea how he ever thought he’d get a return on investment. No matter how many brands you buy you aren’t going to monopolize how people discuss bikes/outdoor recreation on the internet.
Damn. First BETA (former BikeMag staff) got axed, then layoffs at Pinkbike and now Cycling Tips is next in line.
Robin Thurston sure has a talent for running businesses into the ground.
Discovery - Owns Play Sports, which includes GCN, GMBN, and all those various channels.
Immediate Media - Bike Radar, MBUK, Cycling Plus.
Future Publishing - CyclingNews, Bike Perfect, Pro Cycling, MBR, Cycling Weekly.
tried listening to the podcast on the other site where they had thurston on, had to switch off after 20 minutes because that guy is such an insufferable and unlikeable piece of shit
too bad about CT, while I’m not really following road racing I liked to read it for the tech nerdery and widening my bike horizon a bit.
Was Bernard Kerr's recent whirlwind trip to Greece to sign a certain expat Brit rider whose main bike sponsor just paused their racing program for 2023? Or is he just really into Souvlaki?
Pretty sure I saw Bernard was in Athens on Insta. If Pivot is getting a new male rider, and Propain just folded their WC DH team, there is a good chance it could be Phil Atwill. I know Phil was not on the Propain factory team, but if they are folding one they might fold Propain Positive too. Phil on the Pivot team would be incredible...
I think the Leatt team is in Athens, not just Pivot. For what it's worth, Tippie is there too and I have my doubts he's the new Pivot rider...
Phil's also not a Propain Factory rider technically. He's on Propain Positive/Vee
Phil is running his own program with support from Propain and a few others. Mind you it's only Propain Factory Racing who paused for 2023. Propain didn't just stop sponsoring riders altogether and Phil wasn't on the factory team.
Very unlikely that Phil is the new Pivot rider. That being said, if I had a bike brand and a racing team, I'd move heaven and earth to get him on my team. One of the most stylish riders around. Propain has done incredibly well signing him.
Jesse is posting a lot of highlights of the season in his Instagram stories. Kinda like he's reminiscing the season he had with rocky before moving on? Maybe? Just reminiscing?
It’s cold outside and it’s his job to put out content. While it seems Jesse is definitely on the move I wouldn’t look too much into riders putting together highlight reels in November/December.
Is that Mikayla Parton in the Saracen new bike launch vid?
Could be and would make sense, as Veronika and Jordan will (might) leave. They have some open places and Mikayla is a local / UK rider.
Looks like Becci Skelton doing the no handler. Already sponsored by Saracen
I still reckon Mikayla Parton will be joining Atherton..
Wasn't there a rumor they were not racing this year? So I would not expect her to join them if she wants to race on a team.
Jesse waking up and seeing his coffee posts still getting attention weeks later on the vital forums
The 'Elon' effect.
She did post few days ago that she will be spending this winter in Wales and not at home in Fort William
Super bummed about this. Though CyclingTips focus was mostly road/gravel, their podcast Nerd Alert had amazing coverage of tech innovation - carbon recycling, additive mfg, supply chain deep-dives, all kinds of enlightening stuff, and a healthy (and entertaining) skepticism of “but it’s 3 watts faster!”. Cough, headset cable routing. Dave Rome’s tool obsessions are dorky in the best way. And most of them ride mountain bikes too. Hoping for good things for them in the future.
hey all, i made a new forum thread to discuss outside+ biz stuff. sorry i brought it in here in the first place.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/general-outside-discussions-topics
Did I miss any news about bad ass Gracey Hemstreet? the norco disbanding thing, etc? One of the best riding styles i've ever seen, hope she's taken care of.
No news yet, just speculation...
She spent a lot of time up there last year as well - at one point when the rumours were about who Pivot was signing as a new female rider, I speculated it might be her as she was in several BK vlogs- shows how shit my speculation is!
Surprised no one has mentioned the red head in Whistler wearing a RedBull helmet and riding a Session, had me fooled until my kid pointed out that it wasn't a POC helmet.
Or to do be there to support one of his big sponsors in introducing their 2024 line up...
You sure it didn’t just look like a session?
Marcello Guttierez without a Red Bull helmet in his latest appearance.
A quick instagram search tells me he's been without a redbull lid since January 2021
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