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eugenM and lickmycrinkle, cut the personal attacks and keep it to bike talk.

The local Nukeproof dealer published notes that the bikes (that have been downpaid already) will probably be a bit more expensive, but they will try to honor the agreed upon price. And that the reason for this is stocking the bikes in UK with customs charges getting them into europe raising the prices. Supposedly they are working on a EU warehouse for 2022 to avoid this shitstorm of a situation. Brits really did royally screw themselves over with this Brexit stuff...

Actually I don't have an exhaustive view of the cracked frames, you're right. As a matter of fact: a friend of mine was indeed to heavy (90kg / 200 pounds) for that frame at that time, and it snapped. But here's the thing: he got the Socom replaced by a 951... which also snapped (the CNCd part on the wheelbase). After discussing over the years with former Intense buyers, it seemed that a lot of them got a problem on the Socom and 951 frames (dunno about the Evo). I did love Intense (I used to own a Uzzi slx)...

That bike ware sure a looker and damn light. But it snapped. A lot.

I wish I could give you more than one downvote

FAkE NEWS!!! It's a false flag operation, designed to extract Vital from the global conspiration!!

Bottle cage is upside down

Grumpy old man here to say No Thank You.

I'm turning into a bit of a luddite when it comes to bikes and can say with confidence that I have no interest in paying all the dollars for this latest bit of fancy kit that does more of the job of riding a bike for me. That said, Daniel Bacon manages to make reading about patents interesting so Chapeau mon ami.

Vittoria has a MASSIVE tire factory in Thailand and they do plenty of contracted out manufacturing. And, it's been open for only a handful of years. Not that I know which brands but it supports your theory.

Technically fluid (oil) damping is a form of friction too. Viscosity os the 'friction' in the fluid itself and viscosity is what gives us the damping (the resistance of a fluid to flow through different orifices). Granted, it's very different and more constant compared to friction between solid surfaces. But the early automotive dampers did use preloaded plates to provide some damping in the suspension. One thing to always note about patents too. Big companies like Fox, Sram and Shimano can easily patent even the most stupid ideas just to have a patent covering it, preventing the competition and the...

Fox has had that for years with Bushing Tolerances installed by blind monkeys.