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You keep mostly the same binding/friction issues that come from sideloading bushings and while improving fore-aft stiffness, you destroy torsional stiffness (with an upside down fork which I guess you're aiming at).

Stop trying to make USD forks happen, they’re not gonna happen

How about you turn everything around and suddenly have no stiffnes problems with slack head-angles and the lubricant in the right place? Wait that already exists…

The four surfaces on the Lefty also are the only thing preventing twisting forces to keep things tracking so well. What if fox made their version using lowers to prevent the twisting forces and just used roller bearings on the front and back to lower stiction and relied on the lowers to prevent twist?

Wondering how smart using balls in there is, creating super high loads because of their tiny contact area? I guess one of the reasons for lefties to use cylindrical elements is also much better liad distribution ( besides transferring steering inputs)

here is another look at the new XX1 https://www.instagram.com/p/CopoS_NqfMV/

Binding is still an issue. But it wouldn't be that much different even with a rolling element bushing to be honest, the load paths are just wonky when you go really slack - at 60° HA 85 % of the vertical force goes into moving the system along the axis of travel with 50 % of the vertical force going into sideloading either the bushing or the rolling elements. It will be better, but still not great (let's not go into the topic of if it makes sense going to or past 60° HA). Sooner or later slackening the head...

"The patent gives us some insight into how Fox’s long-travel mountain bike forks such as the 36, 38, and 40 may evolve in the future, with the inventions described working to reduce binding at ever-slacker head angles, while also continuously lubricating the wiper seals during use." Might aswell make a upside down fork at that point?

Just a screen grab on the potential patent parts…

Meh, good point actually. Twin compression dials and perpendicular reservoir. Good eye.

This was like popping in at the best local bike shop, but without feeling like I'm supposed to buy anything.

Talk about a plot twist... 😂

Ok... I just hit skidding the loam off the loam.. That was a needed laugh... But, I live in the high desert of SoCal.. Sandy kitty litter most of the time, but so much grip with all the recent rain...

Outstandingly fun listen. Please, schedule more of these, with this same crew.

I don't know if people bring up the spoke tension & wheel stiffness thing just to troll people like me but I'll bite- First thing - reducing wheel stiffness is highly likely to be a benefit, and there is plenty of anecdotal evidence for it. Personally I think front wheels can be much less stiff than they are and I've run highly mismatched wheels in the past to test it and felt it rode great. HOWEVER, lowering spoke tension is a bad way to do that - Charlie actually explained why when he described the feeling of a wheel falling...

The people need a TEAM ROBOT podcast. Big fan of the "review old articles" concept too.

Haven’t finished listening yet. But on the set up part and with Mikey. He is just naturally fast af but I was the nerd at the time and still am. we lived together 2011-2013 ish I helped a lot with his bike and always worked on it for him. Was always chasing him trying to figure out how the f he was so fast. Definitely have had some heated arguments with Charlie at races too years ago. All in all love this pod cast with the homies. We all got after it back in the day. Would love to join...

So usually, I just lurk these types of threads and make notes for "businessing"; you know, like what people are looking for, what they like and don't, but I saw this and had quite a good chuckle. This is our shoe from the year 2000. Roughly 16? years before the ELC and I'm not sure (14?) how many before the OG Element. Sure its 20 years of fading, but man is that cut similar. Sure there's no lace saver on this shoe, but come on' it was the year 2000! On a more current note... These (We ran the v1...

it's rumored to last 4 weeks vs. the usual 2.