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The aero gain of a headset routed cable salad is negated by the number plate in a race (where aero actually matters).

It would for sure, right up until you had to do an oil change every 500 miles, or have tires made for it (you’re not buying off TireRack.com for this)….I love all forms of Motorsport, and cycling, hell boats too, but a race rig, designed for racing is not a daily drive rig….We all have to get over what so and so races, or rides, or what ever. I raced motoX for years, at what I believed to be a fairly high level. Had a chance to spend a weekend with a first class moto team, and realized my world...

headset routing saves exactly 0.000032 drag coefficient for a clusterluck of maintenance and part availability

Attention mountain bike industry! IGNORE THIS DRIVEL. This person does not speak for the rest of us;

You're joking about the aero gains, right?

It’s like there’s an echo in here…

This is the chat for new tech. If you want to debate the nuance of reach length, there's a place for that: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/How-Much-Reach-is-Too-Much-Re…

Not sure why anyone care, or tries to compare themselves to what pro riders use, or do, or eat, or ride, or…. We aren’t pro riders, most have 9-5 jobs, families, and mediocre skills at best, trying desperately to fit rides in between house chores and responsibilities. What “we” need doesn’t even resemble what pro riders use on a race course. I dont think there’s anything ironic about any of it, we’d all be well served to ride what we feel is comfortable, available and within budget. Does anyone yearn for an F1, or NASCAR to drive daily? Are we...

I think longer chainstays are especially attractive for race bikes because they create a grippier front tire. But there's a better place to argue about the nuances of chainstay length: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/The-Internet-Was-Wrong-Short-…

Why downvote, he’s right

Older float x2 fromfox, chrck the pics on Pinkbike

Be nice if bikes came back to externally routed cables. There are holes in the bottom of top tubes now to hold tools/tubes why not add a cable grommet and have them run externally? Makes servicing so much easier.

I predict more and more companies will choose to route cables this way, leaving customers with no option but to use shit headsets and a limited choice of stems. In around 18 months there will be companies reverting to more traditional routing and using it as a selling point on their new frames. You have to love this industry sometimes.

I have a bad habit of looking through the websites of bike and component manufactures when I should be doing work for college... oh well. Anyway, Looks like the new stuff from rockshox will have two "Debonair+" air cans, both with negative volume tuning Additionally, there is a "RC3 hydraulic bottom out control" damper option. So if id have to take a wild guess, the RC3 HBC will be the "Ultimate" level shock with the RC3 being the select plus.

Marketing says it wants 'features' on a new bike. Accounting says 'only if we can sell for more or it's cheaper to produce'. Engineer protests that it's a bad idea and gets told to shut up and do it.

'Down country' (just typing that makes me feel dirty) bike test -Needs 203mm rotors, 4 pot calipers and dual ply tyres to make it ridable. Enduro bike test, The 150mm travel bike with 180mm rotors and shortest/steepest geometry was our favourite. Being light is vey important. They are hard to take seriously tbh.

The holes will be molded (carbon) or predrilled (like a few other holes on the tubes and the like) so that isn't much of a factor in all of it. I think quite a few lurkers in this forum will gladly disagree with you regarding their qualifications, as we have seen in the past week if nothing else I wouldn't be surprised if this issue has to be dealt with by the engineering department, but originates as a request somewhere else within a company.

Seems I need to do a cable routing shit post again? Ok, pardon the following.... The other day a headset routed gravel bike came out if the box with the caliper not pulled through enough and it took two people to get it to budge. And that was with adding some lubricant to the rubber grommets that the hose passed through. Bikes shouldn't be that difficult to service. I'm also imagining a basic headset service inusuay do when I'm servicing a form just being bullshit now. Most Enduro bikes I work on also end up with shit kicked bearings after...

As you should.