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We spent so much time worrying about pedal kickback that we didn't stop to consider pedal kickforward

Looks like a lot of chain slippage.

It is a dumb decision by Shimano, IMO. Instead of finally giving 11speeders a mainstream option, they chose the obscure route of proprietary design and complexity. I can't believe anyone will pick a Shimano-powered ebike just to have access to this RD.

Someone, somewhere just thought, "Challenge accepted."

Looks like the same frame he was on earlier this year when he did his Achilles.

My money's for sure on Chromag

Pretty sure it's a Chromag

what a co-incidence, the other site has an article on exactly this topic lol

Agreed on all counts. If it's repeatable, it's as valid as it can be, but it's not a very meaningful target in itself, it's a byproduct of having the necessary spring rate for the loads you put on the bike and the ride quality you're looking for. Worrying about the precision of the sag measurement like that is utterly pointless if you're ignoring the factors that actually matter when selecting spring rates. On that note, we have a few different ways that we calculate spring rates for the Telum on any given frame (tuninghub.vorsprungsuspension.com) - if you know what you...

Hard to trust somebodies judgement when they are wearing all white mountain bike clothing doing measurements with goggles around their neck.

This 1000%. Sag is a nearly useless measurement for anything other that a very initial baseline for setup on a new bike. Depending on the kinematics and dampers involved you might be anywhere from 22-32% sag between platforms with an optimum setup. The real question is not if we are measuring it correctly but if we should we be measuring it at all 😂

How do you choose which words to Capitalize and do you by Chance wear googles around your neck while wrenching?

What a time to be alive. Unbound opulence. Kids, make sure you understand the gradient of the trail you are riding that day too so you can make sag adjustments based on likely weight distribution changes due to gradient variances. Spend 1-2 hours on bike setup/prep. Ride ~4-5 laps of 3-5 minutes each (total ride time 12-25 minutes). Spend 2 hours analyzing data, posting strava, posting grams, posting trailforks, posting youtubes, arguing with netbangers. Sit back, soak in all the WINNING. This is TRULY what peak cycling enjoyment looks like.

WE'VE BEEN MEASURING CRANKS COMPLETELY WRONG! THEY SHOULD BE MEASURED FROM THE GROUND!

Back at it again creating his own hype by saying "don't believe the hype" and saying that he's going to change the mtb world. Not quite.... Setting sag is not that deep, I've done this with measuring the shock sag and just looking up what sag that is at the axle using a linkage model on the computer (cost 0€).

This is an example of percent wheel travel as a function of percent shock travel. In this example, all have 160 mm of travel and a perfectly linear (in the mathematical sense ie. in the form mx+b) leverage curve. The green line is 50%, the blue line is 30%, and the orange line is 10%. The largest difference in percentage is at 50% shock travel. This is the point at which the aforementioned leverage curves converge. Running more sag on a more progressive bike can result in the ratio of up travel to down travel from the sag point being...

🤨 I get the nerding out on sag, but the kit is as expensive as a shock wiz, with the shock wiz being way more useful to dial in your suspension to riding style, compliance, and terrain. Strikes me as some obsessivness getting way out of control.

Typical Dave with his absolute claims. Things like 15mm stems are the only way and anything else is too flexy and unusable. Using XC tires on his "enduro" bike. Claiming everyone should have a bike 2 sizes up with 1300mm+ wheelbase and any bike with pedal kickback is completely useless etc etc. Granted he has some interesting theories but the way he dismisses everyone in the industry gets old real fast. This rebranded product is the perfect example of his attitude. He's numero uno and we're all plebs.

Jeeeesus, just buy tape measure and measure distance between rear axle and rear edge of the saddle if you want to be moto. Or go ahead and buy sag master from racetech for 10bucks, moto AF. This is just dumb.