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True. In the era of disc brakes, I've been less and less concerned with the lateral runout as it doesn't matter as much anymore. Even tension, at the expensive of lateral, and even slight vertical runout, is where I prefer to focus on. And you're right with tenacious oil suggestion; keeps them free later on when you need to make...
When I first learned to build wheels, I was taught to consider the wheel tension as layers. Essentially, you tension all the spokes around the wheel, fine-tune the lateral run-out first, then vertical, then repeat the process multiple times until you reach your desired KGf. More layers you achieve, the more even your spoke tension and more true your wheel...

HexonJuan Liked a reply to forum topic Broken Spoke Replacement Good Wheelsmithing Practices?

7/16/2025 9:37am
Always de-tension and then bring it back up after replacement. The spokes that didn't break get put under more stress when a snap occurs. I found if you don't de-tension the next spoke to snap is roughly 90deg off from the one you replaced. Orb weaver spiders replace a bunch of strands when they replace a broken one. Kinda figure they've a better idea of these things than any engineer.
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kperras Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/16/2025 9:28am
The global overstock issues continue. I'm guessing YT's investments in the USA are now considered liabilities, and they are finding it hard to do business with an unpredictable tariff environment. Right now, bikes from Taiwan are subject to both duties (~12% for regular bikes, 0% for e-bikes) and then another 32% for tariffs. And who knows what that tariff number...

Jotegr Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/15/2025 12:28pm
The entire company structure was available in the Rocky Mountain bankruptcy filings. We're nerds here, I know. I'll refrain from saying more because we already have the "will more companies be shutting down in the next 12-24 months thread" which is actually "Bike business discussion thread" or "lessons in bike company finance and valuation with Jeff", and I'm afraid someone will link that thread to tell me to stop discussing such things in the tech rumour thread.
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SteveClimber Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/14/2025 9:22pm
So your friend just jams in a hub that is 9mm wider than the chainstays are designed for? What shop does he work at? Just so I can make sure I never go there.
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7/14/2025 9:22pm
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Jotegr Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/14/2025 11:28am
Mooooooom they're talking about chainstay length in the tech romours thread again!
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anotherbikerguy Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/14/2025 7:46am
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monarchmason Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/13/2025 8:23pm
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iceman2058 Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 World Cup Downhill - Pal Arinsal, Andorra

7/11/2025 10:38pm
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Simcik Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

7/11/2025 1:11pm
The bigger news is Bionicon was still in business for the last decade. I had no idea
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 World Cup Downhill - Pal Arinsal, Andorra

7/11/2025 12:54pm
Bah! Que Metallica - Ride the Lightning:
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phillemaistre Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 World Cup Downhill - Pal Arinsal, Andorra

7/11/2025 12:52pm
I’d like to know if Gwin hurt the good elbow or the bad one… Danny finished up at La Thuile, headed home to help Sophia deliver their third, and made it back to Andorra to try and qualify. What a lad. If it rains, no one will beat Max and Asa’s times I do not envy Juanfer dropping last. Does a boring track for the riders mean boring racing for us? Seemed so yesterday, today no so much. That tidbit about the MotoGP top ten vs our top ten is bananas. Tightest margins ever. LCQ still providing a great show...
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Sven_Claas Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 World Cup Downhill - Pal Arinsal, Andorra

7/11/2025 12:51pm
Some tight racing. This morning MotoGP had a timed session. The top 10 spread on a 1:20 lap was 0.718 Sec. Our Q1 top 10 spread on a 2:40 run was +1.349 Sec.. How on earth can a bunch of guys hurdling down a blown out track with changing conditions (stray rocks, berms exploding) be closer than a manicured tarmac Motogp lap with everyone on the same line, 50 person support crews, unlimited data analysis etc. is beyond me. Madness.
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kperras Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/11/2025 12:47pm
Production volumes end up that there is little to no sharing of molds when producing the various models based on travel. You might save on the XS and XL molds if the volumes are low enough. Using one mold would also wear it out more quickly, thus requiring another mold to be made, once it's no longer repairable

carlinojoevideo Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/10/2025 6:53pm
The idea of the variable path was what he was going for, but not the high and low speed shaft movements doing different of axle paths. It was called VST. I’ve talked to Frank about this and even asked him about making one for me. He said the axle path almost looked like a football shape, it would move backwards up and then forward and you can pump it railroad track and just generate speed. This is an old image and screen grab I found off of a forum from the early 2010s
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carlinojoevideo Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

7/10/2025 1:37pm
It’s hard to say what’s “better”, Jackson just won 4 in a row on low pivot, Gracey won 2 on high pivot, Max in junior won on mid pivot. But I do agree things are settling around the mid pivot area where you can get the best of both worlds. We could go back in time and try this dual pivot? Low speed impacts the axle moves vertically and high speed impacts the axle moved backwards
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Brilliant as always John 🇮🇪👊. I would like to add that not only does John film and edit his "Weekend" series, but he's also doing Pitbits and Raw all at the same time. Freaking legend 🙌.
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