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You forgot about Zink. Used his name to break into USA market with distro.

Let's recap: Made a dirt jumper. + Ordered frames from China & Direct to Consumered. Cut out dealer. - Took advance orders on bikes that didn't exist. - Signed AG7. Won WC's. + Ditched AG7. - Created "Demo Centers", not dealers. - Took more advance orders. - Took corporate capital. - Took more advance orders. - Signed Vali, Oisin, Kolb. Won WC,s. + Ditched Vali, Oisin, Kolb. - Still had money to "buy back" brand. ????

Honestly, at this point, just let it die. If they are able to come back and be a successful company after all the years of bad PR, they'll be studied in business schools for decades.

Publicly killing your own brand in front of the whole world wide audience at WC says you are BS. If that was a different story for the riders and public I would say there was hope.

I heard a rumor that YT Shenanigans was going to replace the YT Mob.

You'd sure as hell be wanting to get paid up front!

I think keyboard warriors wanted to see YT burn after this to burn Markus. Twice have they burned riders at the top of the game. They burned customers. Why would we want to be oh yeah they are back? All the good karma that they had built up over the years?

There have been a few almost losses the last two years who at least tried or were open about what was happening, and come back swinging like Rocky, Kona, Nukeproof. They have all come back in someway and people celebrated them coming back because of the way they handled it. Revel as well, although they were a bit tougher with customer support. Then there are YT and Pole. If two brands stayed dead because of the way they handled their customers and riders very publicly, I don't think a lot of people who cry about it.

People lose jobs, investors taking a bath, people ordering bikes that never arrive, riders without a team etc the audacity to call people keyboard warriors is wild lmao. YT literally FUCKED OVER countless people but sure, call us keyboard warriors.

Man. Good on you for the experiment, but I have so many questions. Not about what you’re trying to do, but how I’d even manage to ride something like this. Trying to dial in two separate air chambers with volume spacers and pressure, etc. Then the multiple compression and rebound settings? I know for a fact I wouldn’t be able to wrap my head around that shit. Also having two different wheel paths on the front of the bike? The traction-geometry changes and weight transfer dynamics make my head spin. I won’t make the Proflex comparison like I did in...

If we don't explore things then how will we innovate

Yeah, I know, it's weird. I will only buy bikes that I can source through my LBS and if I were to go off of that rule, there are only two brands that I would do so with RAAW or Frameworks. Truth be told, I've ridden a lot of crab bikes (haven't we all) and I have mostly no complaints... however I want to see what Santa Cruz's horst link pedal bikes would be like after spending time on the bullit. There is just something about the combination of fit, geo, kinematics and quality (lack of issues) that keeps me...

So... some math isn't mathing for me. Thanks to Spotify's podcast transcription feature, Troydon said, referring to Aaron Gwin, "He's got a small ownership in the company(Crestline) and we've set almost like some targets and over the next X number of years, as long as we hit those targets, Aaron will get like, you know, issued more equity in the brand." AG gets applauded for his business acumen a lot here, yet people seem to think he'd ride for a different/rival bike brand while holding an incentivized stake in Crestline. Unless he's suddenly not a part of Crestline anymore, it...

Barry likes it hot

You got burned on Insta mate ! 😀

Not really a weird choice to bring either along. If they're the easiest/cheapest to pay for travel, then why not? The end of the race season doesn't mean the end of contractual obligations. Gotta rep who pays you till the end date on the contract like a professional. It's definitely a bit weird to see riders who've moved onto new teams in media for their old team, but if the media is made under contract, why not get the most out of the employee/asset