2026 Race Talk

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Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a...

Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a privateer rider who missed, similar to Asa's Loudenvielle mishap. They missed a pole, pushed back up, but reentered the track a pole lower than where they exited. I didn't feel too bad, because they were not in position to qualify anyway, and there were no points for qualis. It would have weighed a little heavier if it were a higher ranked rider that was on pace, but it's a good thing that at least all the rules can be applied evenly to everyone. 

I'm sure there is a wide varying level of attention that marshals are giving to the track limits though. Even just in LP, we had some marshals like me who religiously follow racing and can name almost every single rider, and there were some others at the other end of the spectrum. In the sector I was managing, one marshal asked if it was all time trials or if they would mass start at any point in the day. 

We are all given the same instructions and training beforehand, but obviously, some marshals will just pay a lot more attention than others. 

owl-x wrote:

Why would you have felt bad if the rider’s position were different?

If it were Asa on his finals run I wouldn't want to be the one that make the call that alters the history of our sport forever. As a marshal, I'd have to, but it wouldn't be fun. A rider that is several seconds back at the 3rd split, stops, and pushes back up is not going to qualify anyway, so being disqualified isn't a big deal. A rider in the title hunt in his first elite season needs all the points he can get in finals. The marshal's call has a much larger effect. 

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Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a...

Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a privateer rider who missed, similar to Asa's Loudenvielle mishap. They missed a pole, pushed back up, but reentered the track a pole lower than where they exited. I didn't feel too bad, because they were not in position to qualify anyway, and there were no points for qualis. It would have weighed a little heavier if it were a higher ranked rider that was on pace, but it's a good thing that at least all the rules can be applied evenly to everyone. 

I'm sure there is a wide varying level of attention that marshals are giving to the track limits though. Even just in LP, we had some marshals like me who religiously follow racing and can name almost every single rider, and there were some others at the other end of the spectrum. In the sector I was managing, one marshal asked if it was all time trials or if they would mass start at any point in the day. 

We are all given the same instructions and training beforehand, but obviously, some marshals will just pay a lot more attention than others. 

owl-x wrote:

Why would you have felt bad if the rider’s position were different?

If it were Asa on his finals run I wouldn't want to be the one that make the call that alters the history of our sport...

If it were Asa on his finals run I wouldn't want to be the one that make the call that alters the history of our sport forever. As a marshal, I'd have to, but it wouldn't be fun. A rider that is several seconds back at the 3rd split, stops, and pushes back up is not going to qualify anyway, so being disqualified isn't a big deal. A rider in the title hunt in his first elite season needs all the points he can get in finals. The marshal's call has a much larger effect. 

How much did they focus on outside assistance etc? I've seen a video from JG's qualifying crash at Whistler. He yells at a marshal to help him and the marshal grabs his bike and tries to help bend some snapped spokes back into place so he can keep riding. Big no no as far as I was aware

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Simcik wrote:
As someone living just outside of GJ, I did not know this was going on this weekend. Either it is marketed less than in the past...

As someone living just outside of GJ, I did not know this was going on this weekend. Either it is marketed less than in the past or I am less connected than I used to be to the local racing scene. Probably that latter...

Eae903 wrote:
You should come watch, the DH racing starts at 10 am tomorrow, seeding first and then finals later. It would be a good time. Racing pinball...

You should come watch, the DH racing starts at 10 am tomorrow, seeding first and then finals later. It would be a good time. Racing pinball alley at Powderhorn. 

Simcik wrote:

Sadly I missed it. How did it go? Were you racing?

I did race and it was a shit show. I think it ruined a lot of peoples opinions of Powderhorn as a bike park. They moved the race from Pinball (great trail, fun to race, terrifying when it opens up on the ski slopes and gets fast) to the green trails because of the rain. Had people grabbing xc bikes for the DH race because of how flat it is. Even the usac people were pretty frustrated with everything, seems like it was the bike patrol / medical staff was the ones really pushing to move the trail because it was too difficult to get to the trail with a litter in case someone crashed, but it also didn't seem like there was enough bike patrol for the Race anyways. Pretty sure that was on the resort. The worst part is there are better trails to race that still don't have the access issues that pinball has that we didn't race. Finishing times were over 5 minutes for the fastest men, and there were riders like Christopher Grice there. 

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Samwell wrote:

I'm pretty sure this is a team manager that saw it and told the uci comissaire. Pretty much all the time this is what happens.

 

Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a...

Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a privateer rider who missed, similar to Asa's Loudenvielle mishap. They missed a pole, pushed back up, but reentered the track a pole lower than where they exited. I didn't feel too bad, because they were not in position to qualify anyway, and there were no points for qualis. It would have weighed a little heavier if it were a higher ranked rider that was on pace, but it's a good thing that at least all the rules can be applied evenly to everyone. 

I'm sure there is a wide varying level of attention that marshals are giving to the track limits though. Even just in LP, we had some marshals like me who religiously follow racing and can name almost every single rider, and there were some others at the other end of the spectrum. In the sector I was managing, one marshal asked if it was all time trials or if they would mass start at any point in the day. 

We are all given the same instructions and training beforehand, but obviously, some marshals will just pay a lot more attention than others. 

mnp6 wrote:
Curious if they give any instruction to marshals about letting a rider know which pole they missed? This was a discussion for Asa’s DSQ earlier this...

Curious if they give any instruction to marshals about letting a rider know which pole they missed? This was a discussion for Asa’s DSQ earlier this year when a few were wondering why the marshal standing right there wouldn’t have told Asa to go up to the next pole. As you stated, I’m sure it could also be that some marshals are just clueless.

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Marshall pointing where Asa had to return to course.
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Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a...

Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a privateer rider who missed, similar to Asa's Loudenvielle mishap. They missed a pole, pushed back up, but reentered the track a pole lower than where they exited. I didn't feel too bad, because they were not in position to qualify anyway, and there were no points for qualis. It would have weighed a little heavier if it were a higher ranked rider that was on pace, but it's a good thing that at least all the rules can be applied evenly to everyone. 

I'm sure there is a wide varying level of attention that marshals are giving to the track limits though. Even just in LP, we had some marshals like me who religiously follow racing and can name almost every single rider, and there were some others at the other end of the spectrum. In the sector I was managing, one marshal asked if it was all time trials or if they would mass start at any point in the day. 

We are all given the same instructions and training beforehand, but obviously, some marshals will just pay a lot more attention than others. 

mnp6 wrote:
Curious if they give any instruction to marshals about letting a rider know which pole they missed? This was a discussion for Asa’s DSQ earlier this...

Curious if they give any instruction to marshals about letting a rider know which pole they missed? This was a discussion for Asa’s DSQ earlier this year when a few were wondering why the marshal standing right there wouldn’t have told Asa to go up to the next pole. As you stated, I’m sure it could also be that some marshals are just clueless.

Juanargent wrote:
Screenshot 2026-10-12 at 6.20.14%E2%80%AFPM.png?VersionId=jXaVCUvu
Marshall pointing where Asa had to return to course.

Haha nice. Wondering if he was yelling at him at all. Considering Asa almost got decapitated and was full of adrenaline, I wonder if he even saw him trying to help him out.

9 hours ago
owl-x wrote:

Why would you have felt bad if the rider’s position were different?

If it were Asa on his finals run I wouldn't want to be the one that make the call that alters the history of our sport...

If it were Asa on his finals run I wouldn't want to be the one that make the call that alters the history of our sport forever. As a marshal, I'd have to, but it wouldn't be fun. A rider that is several seconds back at the 3rd split, stops, and pushes back up is not going to qualify anyway, so being disqualified isn't a big deal. A rider in the title hunt in his first elite season needs all the points he can get in finals. The marshal's call has a much larger effect. 

Big Dos wrote:
How much did they focus on outside assistance etc? I've seen a video from JG's qualifying crash at Whistler. He yells at a marshal to help...

How much did they focus on outside assistance etc? I've seen a video from JG's qualifying crash at Whistler. He yells at a marshal to help him and the marshal grabs his bike and tries to help bend some snapped spokes back into place so he can keep riding. Big no no as far as I was aware

A crash in qualifying has the same consequences as a DQ. Your race is done and you need to make sure you clear the course for the next riders, which is what Jackson was doing. 

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Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a...

Marshals can also call it in. I marshaled and sector managed in Lake Placid and in one of the qualifiers I had to call in a privateer rider who missed, similar to Asa's Loudenvielle mishap. They missed a pole, pushed back up, but reentered the track a pole lower than where they exited. I didn't feel too bad, because they were not in position to qualify anyway, and there were no points for qualis. It would have weighed a little heavier if it were a higher ranked rider that was on pace, but it's a good thing that at least all the rules can be applied evenly to everyone. 

I'm sure there is a wide varying level of attention that marshals are giving to the track limits though. Even just in LP, we had some marshals like me who religiously follow racing and can name almost every single rider, and there were some others at the other end of the spectrum. In the sector I was managing, one marshal asked if it was all time trials or if they would mass start at any point in the day. 

We are all given the same instructions and training beforehand, but obviously, some marshals will just pay a lot more attention than others. 

mnp6 wrote:
Curious if they give any instruction to marshals about letting a rider know which pole they missed? This was a discussion for Asa’s DSQ earlier this...

Curious if they give any instruction to marshals about letting a rider know which pole they missed? This was a discussion for Asa’s DSQ earlier this year when a few were wondering why the marshal standing right there wouldn’t have told Asa to go up to the next pole. As you stated, I’m sure it could also be that some marshals are just clueless.

Juanargent wrote:
Screenshot 2026-10-12 at 6.20.14%E2%80%AFPM.png?VersionId=jXaVCUvu
Marshall pointing where Asa had to return to course.

Hearing a singular French voice or noticing a pointing finger in a crowd of screaming spectators & the finish lines music and announcers. Slim chance.
Sport where you're responsible for your own success/failure. 
Catch me screwing up a course? That's the rules. I'm fine with it. It's always you vs course. 
I only look outward if it's Brian Lopes stacking rocks after practice to make a sidewalk (hilarious unsubstantiated rumour at every NORBA national ever)  😁

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bizutch wrote:
Hearing a singular French voice or noticing a pointing finger in a crowd of screaming spectators & the finish lines music and announcers. Slim chance.Sport where...

Hearing a singular French voice or noticing a pointing finger in a crowd of screaming spectators & the finish lines music and announcers. Slim chance.
Sport where you're responsible for your own success/failure. 
Catch me screwing up a course? That's the rules. I'm fine with it. It's always you vs course. 
I only look outward if it's Brian Lopes stacking rocks after practice to make a sidewalk (hilarious unsubstantiated rumour at every NORBA national ever)  😁

What we all know is HB cut the course in 1990 🤣

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