Curious what the tire nerds would recommend as the fastest rolling tire that Maxxis offers in a 29" double down casing. Looking for a durable rear...
Curious what the tire nerds would recommend as the fastest rolling tire that Maxxis offers in a 29" double down casing. Looking for a durable rear tire for a trail bike and I ride like a hack so I am not a great candidate for an EXO+ rear tire.
Not Maxxis but I'd suggest checking out Teravail Honcho in the durable casing, but all 29" sizes seem to be out of stock RN. Fast rolling thread, stiff and robust AF sidewalls but also not exactly lightweight.
Respectfully, I think you rode a different tire or the mm you’re comparing to is not a gravity casing. The previous wild enduro rear was porky...
Respectfully, I think you rode a different tire or the mm you’re comparing to is not a gravity casing. The previous wild enduro rear was porky for sure, the one linked rides slower than a tacky chan 2.4 gravity casing, but closer to a tc than a magic mary imo.
I think Michelins casings are more damped and feel heavier fwiw I would say the rear is similiar to the previous gen eliminator but with the Michelin treatment and better cornering knobs.
well here is a picture as a proof i did ride that tyre, it did felt slow af, 100% slower than the Albert Gravity i've had...
well here is a picture as a proof i did ride that tyre, it did felt slow af, 100% slower than the Albert Gravity i've had after, i think it can be the rubber compound or the very very stiff chasing, not sure, but both up and down it was just sluggish as, reason why it came off after a couple of weeks.
I haven't run the tire but I see it's only available (in the US at least) in Magi-X. That is a pretty slow rolling compound, like...
I haven't run the tire but I see it's only available (in the US at least) in Magi-X. That is a pretty slow rolling compound, like 3CG. The previous gen of it, I'm pretty sure, was offered in gum-x.
Im sure that’s the “issue” making it so slow, the magi x compound
Codahale, not surprised to hear this. I found the MM radial a good all arounder. It does everything pretty well and does loamier dirt in the San Juan high country really well. To me it doesn't quite have that same level of locked in when leaning feel that the TC seems to, like a DHF, but it certainly hooks up fine and doesn't seem to need as much of a committed lean as the TC does to bite fairly well in natural bermless corners. The TC does seem to have more outright cornering grip when ya commit and lean on it though. MM is certainly a good tread pattern. Not surprised it is still a common choice at the highest level of racing in many conditions, especially the radial version.
Looking forward to riding a Romy in the rear. Thanks for posting your impressions of that tire. Are you running the 2.4 or the 2.5 width?
Curious what the tire nerds would recommend as the fastest rolling tire that Maxxis offers in a 29" double down casing. Looking for a durable rear...
Curious what the tire nerds would recommend as the fastest rolling tire that Maxxis offers in a 29" double down casing. Looking for a durable rear tire for a trail bike and I ride like a hack so I am not a great candidate for an EXO+ rear tire.
IME dissector v1 definitely rolled faster than the aggressor, but I haven't tried a dissector v2. I would expect with the taller knobs it's slower than...
IME dissector v1 definitely rolled faster than the aggressor, but I haven't tried a dissector v2. I would expect with the taller knobs it's slower than v1, but surely still faster than the dhr2. (Is there a point for the dissector v2 to exist if it doesn't roll faster than dhr2?)
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft is fine for my pedal bike which only gets 1/5 that much distance.
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft...
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft is fine for my pedal bike which only gets 1/5 that much distance.
this thread is making me thankful for my local terrain, I have soft Magic Mary front that I've been using since 2022 on multiple bikes and probably has over 3000km at this point !
Currently building a DH bike for park use, really not sure what tires I'm gonna go with 🤔 Radial Schwalbes because I'm curious about those, DHR because I like it in trail shape, Kryptotal to try something different, Michelins can also be had at a reasonable price...
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft...
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft is fine for my pedal bike which only gets 1/5 that much distance.
That's the plan long term. I've got a DHR MT (old compound) that I've got to use up in the bin, but a Krypto Re is next in queue. I know that lasts a full year for me.
Anyone have ride time on the new radial specialized tires to compare to non radial? Always been a fan of butchers
I've got a bit of time on the Butcher and Eliminator on my Enduro bike and they're legit. I'm coming off of Conti Kryptos and they definitely feel more grippy, I immediately felt the difference in the radial casing as soon as I had them on, the Conti's felt almost wooden in comparison. I was concerned about the Eliminator out back being it's more of a trail bike tire but they're seriously impressive, testing them out with some hard stops on flatter loose / dusty trails I had expected them to slip and drift like my Kryptos but they just grip and stop. Keep in mind, my rear Krypto wasn't a fresh tire so maybe that's not a perfect comparison.
Most of my riding has been on more trail bike style trails but I've had a bit of riding on our local steeper, looser, chunkier Enduro / DH style mid-upper mountain trails and I didn't feel any worse off than my Kryptos. I still need more time on those trails and am coming back from an injury so I'm not pushing too hard but can report back after some time. Spesh doesn't recommend these tires for bike park riding so that's still a question mark for me atm.
The main downside I've noticed between the Conti's is rolling speed, they feel a bit more glued to the ground and not quite as eager to pop and jib around. That may be a consequence of the weight of the tires, they're not light. I still need to play around with tire pressure to see if that helps too, I'm still running my typical 23F/25R.
Overall, these tires are sick especially for being more "trail bike" tires. I'm looking forward to a lighter casing for the radials, particularly for the front but they're manageable if you're used to pedalling DH tires. And if and when Spesh releases a radial casing for the Hillbilly and Cannibal I will be keen to give those a try, they'll probably be sick. Would buy these tires again and can definitely recommend.
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft...
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft is fine for my pedal bike which only gets 1/5 that much distance.
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft...
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft is fine for my pedal bike which only gets 1/5 that much distance.
To be fair, don't they market the new Eddy Current as the recommend rear for ebikes?
Neither the Eddy Current nor the Albert are good rear tread patterns for the trails I ride. Their Soft rubber is the same, and will wear just as fast. Having more knobs doesn't change that.
Fresh High Roller 3 and DHR 2 today felt great and predictable - I like being able to feel what the tire knobs are doing.
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft...
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft is fine for my pedal bike which only gets 1/5 that much distance.
I experienced the same, sadly. I've been on the new Eddy Current radial for a few rides and while it doesn't have the same grip level of the TC, it still looks brand new.
well here is a picture as a proof i did ride that tyre, it did felt slow af, 100% slower than the Albert Gravity i've had...
well here is a picture as a proof i did ride that tyre, it did felt slow af, 100% slower than the Albert Gravity i've had after, i think it can be the rubber compound or the very very stiff chasing, not sure, but both up and down it was just sluggish as, reason why it came off after a couple of weeks.
I haven't run the tire but I see it's only available (in the US at least) in Magi-X. That is a pretty slow rolling compound, like...
I haven't run the tire but I see it's only available (in the US at least) in Magi-X. That is a pretty slow rolling compound, like 3CG. The previous gen of it, I'm pretty sure, was offered in gum-x.
I had gumx wild enduros f/r. Pretty light and good durability but yea the rolling resistance was brutal.
I think I’ve been riding a dh16 rear tire long enough that it has me thinking the wild enduro rear rolls “fast”.
Had the chance to ride 2.5 gravity casing Albert’s with an insert in the rear in finale recently and i was really surprised. It was a rental bike setup with 31 psi(!) in the front and 36 psi in the rear(!). Had the chance to ride same bike with enduro casing kryptotals in phoenix.
I was shocked when the guy told me the pressures but I gave it a go and sure enough the tires were great. No vagueness but also found it easy to lock in cornering grip. I think on my first ride when I get home, I’m going to pump up the gravity casing MMs that I relegated to my trail bike because “not enough support” and give them another go.
Also rode enduro casing kryptotals in Davos… I can’t say I would recommend them, but the Albert’s were a little eye opening for me.
I haven't run the tire but I see it's only available (in the US at least) in Magi-X. That is a pretty slow rolling compound, like...
I haven't run the tire but I see it's only available (in the US at least) in Magi-X. That is a pretty slow rolling compound, like 3CG. The previous gen of it, I'm pretty sure, was offered in gum-x.
I think I’ve been riding a dh16 rear tire long enough that it has me thinking the wild enduro rear rolls “fast”. Had the chance to ride...
I think I’ve been riding a dh16 rear tire long enough that it has me thinking the wild enduro rear rolls “fast”.
Had the chance to ride 2.5 gravity casing Albert’s with an insert in the rear in finale recently and i was really surprised. It was a rental bike setup with 31 psi(!) in the front and 36 psi in the rear(!). Had the chance to ride same bike with enduro casing kryptotals in phoenix.
I was shocked when the guy told me the pressures but I gave it a go and sure enough the tires were great. No vagueness but also found it easy to lock in cornering grip. I think on my first ride when I get home, I’m going to pump up the gravity casing MMs that I relegated to my trail bike because “not enough support” and give them another go.
Also rode enduro casing kryptotals in Davos… I can’t say I would recommend them, but the Albert’s were a little eye opening for me.
Those tire pressures only make sense in Arizona, haha
I think I’ve been riding a dh16 rear tire long enough that it has me thinking the wild enduro rear rolls “fast”. Had the chance to ride...
I think I’ve been riding a dh16 rear tire long enough that it has me thinking the wild enduro rear rolls “fast”.
Had the chance to ride 2.5 gravity casing Albert’s with an insert in the rear in finale recently and i was really surprised. It was a rental bike setup with 31 psi(!) in the front and 36 psi in the rear(!). Had the chance to ride same bike with enduro casing kryptotals in phoenix.
I was shocked when the guy told me the pressures but I gave it a go and sure enough the tires were great. No vagueness but also found it easy to lock in cornering grip. I think on my first ride when I get home, I’m going to pump up the gravity casing MMs that I relegated to my trail bike because “not enough support” and give them another go.
Also rode enduro casing kryptotals in Davos… I can’t say I would recommend them, but the Albert’s were a little eye opening for me.
Tire rumors... I asked a shop if they'd heard when the new "not a DHF3" will launch, and the owner said he hadn't heard yet. He did say that there is an upgraded Aggressor coming, which I don't recall reading about, but also doesn't surprise me considering how bad I thought that tire was.
Tire rumors... I asked a shop if they'd heard when the new "not a DHF3" will launch, and the owner said he hadn't heard yet. He...
Tire rumors... I asked a shop if they'd heard when the new "not a DHF3" will launch, and the owner said he hadn't heard yet. He did say that there is an upgraded Aggressor coming, which I don't recall reading about, but also doesn't surprise me considering how bad I thought that tire was.
Ive heard there’s a DHX coming which I guess is that “new Dhf”
Gave the Romy another try as a rear. Gravity pro, soft casing. There is very noticeable break down on the side knobs and braking edges after one 25 mile ride; at this rate it will be completely toast in under 100 miles. Super disappointed, I won't be buying another Schwalbe at least for the rear for the foreseeable future...
Gave the Romy another try as a rear. Gravity pro, soft casing. There is very noticeable break down on the side knobs and braking edges after...
Gave the Romy another try as a rear. Gravity pro, soft casing. There is very noticeable break down on the side knobs and braking edges after one 25 mile ride; at this rate it will be completely toast in under 100 miles. Super disappointed, I won't be buying another Schwalbe at least for the rear for the foreseeable future...
Man are you riding on sand paper? Mine is like day one after 150km
In Rototorua which is pretty easy on tyres but still
Gave the Romy another try as a rear. Gravity pro, soft casing. There is very noticeable break down on the side knobs and braking edges after...
Gave the Romy another try as a rear. Gravity pro, soft casing. There is very noticeable break down on the side knobs and braking edges after one 25 mile ride; at this rate it will be completely toast in under 100 miles. Super disappointed, I won't be buying another Schwalbe at least for the rear for the foreseeable future...
so that may dispel one belief, that the Romy mid wears unusually fast. if I'm reading old messages right the first Romy you tried was a mid and you wore it fast. now your Romy soft is wearing even faster.
The 2.5 TC soft I'm trying out in the rear feels unbelievably draggy at any pressure. I do not know why exactly. 2 tires ago I was using a soft Albert and it felt about the same (maybe even better) resistance-wise as a maxxterra DHR or soft kryptotal, but the TC feels really bad, like flat tire climbing, casing shit bad. I don't have a good eye for this admittedly but the tread doesn't seem like its a world apart from the 2.4 Tacky which feels on the faster end of things. Was there a significant RR increase with the new gravity casing?
RE: radial tire widths... I noticed the Tacky Chan radials are really undersized when measuring their casing width to use the Wolf Tooth pressure calc. The supposed 2.5 TC is actually 2.29" at the casing. In comparison, a 2.4 High Roller 3 measued 2.37", and the old 2.4 WT DHR II measured a puny 2.25". My buddy measured a 2.5 DHR II and I forget the exact numbers, but it was ~2.35" (a bit under the HR3).
@AndehM hear you about width. I realize these are Scwalbe and typically ru n a bit narrower than advertised. I am more concerned about spacing in the rear triangle.
Not Maxxis but I'd suggest checking out Teravail Honcho in the durable casing, but all 29" sizes seem to be out of stock RN. Fast rolling thread, stiff and robust AF sidewalls but also not exactly lightweight.
Im sure that’s the “issue” making it so slow, the magi x compound
Thanks for all the feedback, y'all! Sounds like the Dissector 29x2.4" MaxxTerra DD casing is going to be my guy. Thank you!
Codahale, not surprised to hear this. I found the MM radial a good all arounder. It does everything pretty well and does loamier dirt in the San Juan high country really well. To me it doesn't quite have that same level of locked in when leaning feel that the TC seems to, like a DHF, but it certainly hooks up fine and doesn't seem to need as much of a committed lean as the TC does to bite fairly well in natural bermless corners. The TC does seem to have more outright cornering grip when ya commit and lean on it though. MM is certainly a good tread pattern. Not surprised it is still a common choice at the highest level of racing in many conditions, especially the radial version.
Looking forward to riding a Romy in the rear. Thanks for posting your impressions of that tire. Are you running the 2.4 or the 2.5 width?
v2 Dissector rolls way faster than DHR2.
I think I'm done with Schwalbes on the rear of my ebike. I got 4 weeks out of this one at ~15,000' vert per week. Soft is fine for my pedal bike which only gets 1/5 that much distance.
I would do a kryptotal re soft.
this thread is making me thankful for my local terrain, I have soft Magic Mary front that I've been using since 2022 on multiple bikes and probably has over 3000km at this point !
Currently building a DH bike for park use, really not sure what tires I'm gonna go with 🤔 Radial Schwalbes because I'm curious about those, DHR because I like it in trail shape, Kryptotal to try something different, Michelins can also be had at a reasonable price...
That's the plan long term. I've got a DHR MT (old compound) that I've got to use up in the bin, but a Krypto Re is next in queue. I know that lasts a full year for me.
I've got a bit of time on the Butcher and Eliminator on my Enduro bike and they're legit. I'm coming off of Conti Kryptos and they definitely feel more grippy, I immediately felt the difference in the radial casing as soon as I had them on, the Conti's felt almost wooden in comparison. I was concerned about the Eliminator out back being it's more of a trail bike tire but they're seriously impressive, testing them out with some hard stops on flatter loose / dusty trails I had expected them to slip and drift like my Kryptos but they just grip and stop. Keep in mind, my rear Krypto wasn't a fresh tire so maybe that's not a perfect comparison.
Most of my riding has been on more trail bike style trails but I've had a bit of riding on our local steeper, looser, chunkier Enduro / DH style mid-upper mountain trails and I didn't feel any worse off than my Kryptos. I still need more time on those trails and am coming back from an injury so I'm not pushing too hard but can report back after some time. Spesh doesn't recommend these tires for bike park riding so that's still a question mark for me atm.
The main downside I've noticed between the Conti's is rolling speed, they feel a bit more glued to the ground and not quite as eager to pop and jib around. That may be a consequence of the weight of the tires, they're not light. I still need to play around with tire pressure to see if that helps too, I'm still running my typical 23F/25R.
Overall, these tires are sick especially for being more "trail bike" tires. I'm looking forward to a lighter casing for the radials, particularly for the front but they're manageable if you're used to pedalling DH tires. And if and when Spesh releases a radial casing for the Hillbilly and Cannibal I will be keen to give those a try, they'll probably be sick. Would buy these tires again and can definitely recommend.
Albert wears more slowly; tighter knobs
To be fair, don't they market the new Eddy Current as the recommend rear for ebikes?
Eddy Current
Neither the Eddy Current nor the Albert are good rear tread patterns for the trails I ride. Their Soft rubber is the same, and will wear just as fast. Having more knobs doesn't change that.
Fresh High Roller 3 and DHR 2 today felt great and predictable - I like being able to feel what the tire knobs are doing.
I experienced the same, sadly. I've been on the new Eddy Current radial for a few rides and while it doesn't have the same grip level of the TC, it still looks brand new.
I think I’ve been riding a dh16 rear tire long enough that it has me thinking the wild enduro rear rolls “fast”.
Had the chance to ride 2.5 gravity casing Albert’s with an insert in the rear in finale recently and i was really surprised. It was a rental bike setup with 31 psi(!) in the front and 36 psi in the rear(!). Had the chance to ride same bike with enduro casing kryptotals in phoenix.
I was shocked when the guy told me the pressures but I gave it a go and sure enough the tires were great. No vagueness but also found it easy to lock in cornering grip. I think on my first ride when I get home, I’m going to pump up the gravity casing MMs that I relegated to my trail bike because “not enough support” and give them another go.
Also rode enduro casing kryptotals in Davos… I can’t say I would recommend them, but the Albert’s were a little eye opening for me.
Those tire pressures only make sense in Arizona, haha
finale
Tire rumors... I asked a shop if they'd heard when the new "not a DHF3" will launch, and the owner said he hadn't heard yet. He did say that there is an upgraded Aggressor coming, which I don't recall reading about, but also doesn't surprise me considering how bad I thought that tire was.
Ive heard there’s a DHX coming which I guess is that “new Dhf”
Gave the Romy another try as a rear. Gravity pro, soft casing. There is very noticeable break down on the side knobs and braking edges after one 25 mile ride; at this rate it will be completely toast in under 100 miles. Super disappointed, I won't be buying another Schwalbe at least for the rear for the foreseeable future...
Man are you riding on sand paper? Mine is like day one after 150km
In Rototorua which is pretty easy on tyres but still
so that may dispel one belief, that the Romy mid wears unusually fast. if I'm reading old messages right the first Romy you tried was a mid and you wore it fast. now your Romy soft is wearing even faster.
I have almost 200 miles in Colorado on Trail soft and Romy holds up fine to me so far.
Same here. Been riding it over the past 2-3 months as a rear, no signs of excessive wear.
more Schwalbe bitching ahead
The 2.5 TC soft I'm trying out in the rear feels unbelievably draggy at any pressure. I do not know why exactly. 2 tires ago I was using a soft Albert and it felt about the same (maybe even better) resistance-wise as a maxxterra DHR or soft kryptotal, but the TC feels really bad, like flat tire climbing, casing shit bad. I don't have a good eye for this admittedly but the tread doesn't seem like its a world apart from the 2.4 Tacky which feels on the faster end of things. Was there a significant RR increase with the new gravity casing?
For adopters of the original Albert & Magic Mary: Has anybody noticed if the 2.4 Romy is as tall when at pressure as the Albert 2.5?
Thumbs up for shorter please
Thumbs down for just as tall
Thank you
it's a good amount smaller, the 2.4 is like 2.36 wide and a solid 6mm shorter
Grazie Mille. (Extent of my Italian.) thank you for the measurements. I appreciate that depth of detail.
RE: radial tire widths... I noticed the Tacky Chan radials are really undersized when measuring their casing width to use the Wolf Tooth pressure calc. The supposed 2.5 TC is actually 2.29" at the casing. In comparison, a 2.4 High Roller 3 measued 2.37", and the old 2.4 WT DHR II measured a puny 2.25". My buddy measured a 2.5 DHR II and I forget the exact numbers, but it was ~2.35" (a bit under the HR3).
@AndehM hear you about width. I realize these are Scwalbe and typically ru n a bit narrower than advertised. I am more concerned about spacing in the rear triangle.
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