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Yoda wrote:
New rumor. Canyon has a press release (which was revised afterwards removing MG) that at eurobike they'll have a long travel mtb with a prototype Avinox...

New rumor. Canyon has a press release (which was revised afterwards removing MG) that at eurobike they'll have a long travel mtb with a prototype Avinox labled 'MG'. Might be a gearbox motor combo.

My youtube feed is full of first time previews of the thing right now

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8 hours ago Edited Date/Time 8 hours ago

Sounds like a CVT transmission possibly?!? Programable gearing?!?


 

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If this is true, at what point are avinox shooting themselves in the foot? Ebikes are expensive enough that I’ve been holding off on investing in...

If this is true, at what point are avinox shooting themselves in the foot? Ebikes are expensive enough that I’ve been holding off on investing in one until the tech change slows a bit. An MGU would compound this issue. 

Nah they've made their money out of the v2 model thats been out for the last few months. When the bikes are on months of back order, you can be sure Avinox have already been paid for their parts. All other ebikes obsolete (allegedly).

an MGU will be next years (or 2028s) hottest product so everyone needs to buy a new bike again. 

Bike brands will know about its existence as they will already be designing frames for it, so they are complicit in this.

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If this is true, at what point are avinox shooting themselves in the foot? Ebikes are expensive enough that I’ve been holding off on investing in...

If this is true, at what point are avinox shooting themselves in the foot? Ebikes are expensive enough that I’ve been holding off on investing in one until the tech change slows a bit. An MGU would compound this issue. 

AJW1 wrote:
Nah they've made their money out of the v2 model thats been out for the last few months. When the bikes are on months of back...

Nah they've made their money out of the v2 model thats been out for the last few months. When the bikes are on months of back order, you can be sure Avinox have already been paid for their parts. All other ebikes obsolete (allegedly).

an MGU will be next years (or 2028s) hottest product so everyone needs to buy a new bike again. 

Bike brands will know about its existence as they will already be designing frames for it, so they are complicit in this.

When you say MGU, do you literally mean regenerative braking?

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MGU = motorgearboxunit meaning electric motor and gearbox in one housing without the need for a derailleur and a big cassette.

Regenerative braking would be a cool feature but I don't see that in the near future due to the necessity to transport energy over the chain/belt the other way around than normal. And I think the effect wouldn't be that big either as you can only replace the braking of the back wheel and most braking should be done in the front.

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TwinTurbo wrote:
MGU = motorgearboxunit meaning electric motor and gearbox in one housing without the need for a derailleur and a big cassette.Regenerative braking would be a cool...

MGU = motorgearboxunit meaning electric motor and gearbox in one housing without the need for a derailleur and a big cassette.

Regenerative braking would be a cool feature but I don't see that in the near future due to the necessity to transport energy over the chain/belt the other way around than normal. And I think the effect wouldn't be that big either as you can only replace the braking of the back wheel and most braking should be done in the front.

For some reason my mind went to automotive applications, since the news about eCVTs – Motor Generator Unit.  Seems I'd flat forgotten about the Pinion MGU (which itself was another "why has it taken this long?" moment).

4 hours ago Edited Date/Time 4 hours ago

Sounds like a CVT transmission possibly?!? Programable gearing?!?


 

Strange nobody posted it from the other site as its been out for 12 hours+, new player in ebike motors, similar specs as avinox, but with freaking 1.5kW charger and integrated ecvt with 500% range... (there is also 1500W version with 500% range)

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Looks like they are both Toyota style, "backwards" differential. Two electric motors, one varies the RPM to give you "gears". 

Wild time to be alive. 

(Two companies have attempted this for ebikes in the past, but they are both belly up)

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avinox is more like the rivian if i got that right, they only simulate the gear steps if you want some

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I need a rumor…… about a Horst Hightower …..

What’s the word on the next Cruz to “transition” to 4bar?

Where da rumors at? 

(Surrons are peak e-bike)

Ervin321 wrote:

Surron to release a VPP e moto

Santa Cruz to drop a 4 bar emoto to compete against the Surrons..

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Sounds like a CVT transmission possibly?!? Programable gearing?!?


 

Please let this kill the Derailleur Mafia for once and for all. 

I don't support your desire, but I can im agine thhis is going to disrupt the market big time. 
Crazy to think companies like Shimano suddenly look like they're in trouble (or should at least be concerned)

1 hour ago

after we got one of the momentum (giant) pakyak ecargo with 5 speed nexus hub a couple of years ago, and haven't had to think about it at all, there's no way I want a traditional derailleur e-bike when I finally get a eeb in the future. Really hoping the MGU tech finally starts coming of age so we don't need expensive danglies and cassettes anymore.

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overbiked wrote:

Now that Cam McCaul is on revel bikes, are we going to see a big dh or freeride bike from them?

Probably not I think it’s more of the fact that  have money to keep him and he needed a  sponsor to get either some free bikes or a paycheck and they were the  said  so he took it. That’s kind of how it ends up being when you become a little bit old lol. He’s not at the top of the game at this point he’s just an announcer and an influencer to the older crowd.  Love Cam he’s an awesome guy, but you have to be realistic at this point he’s not winning rampage or doing worlds first or making video parts that are insane.

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overbiked wrote:

Now that Cam McCaul is on revel bikes, are we going to see a big dh or freeride bike from them?

Probably not I think it’s more of the fact that  have money to keep him and he needed a  sponsor to get either some free bikes...

Probably not I think it’s more of the fact that  have money to keep him and he needed a  sponsor to get either some free bikes or a paycheck and they were the  said  so he took it. That’s kind of how it ends up being when you become a little bit old lol. He’s not at the top of the game at this point he’s just an announcer and an influencer to the older crowd.  Love Cam he’s an awesome guy, but you have to be realistic at this point he’s not winning rampage or doing worlds first or making video parts that are insane.

On one of the latest MTB Podcasts (WWC podcast) Adam, the founder of Revel, was more bullish then I've ever heard him be about bringing their DH bike concept to market.  In the past his response boiled down to, I love the idea but it's not something that's at all on our radar.  This last podcast, it was a lot of, Well, we have to make good business decisions, but it's definitely something we would love to do and it's on the list.  

I wouldn't be surprised to at least see Cam on a proto, or even a why cycles alloy CBF based dh bike.  Whether it comes to market from there or not is anyone's guess.  

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sspomer wrote:

eurobike stuff all condensed into its own forum - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/eurobike-2026

Thanks boss. I’d just like to say a big thanks to spomer for keeping the squids, the crabs and the trolls in their respective lanes 

Where’s the PIMP’d out SURRON thread ? 

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Gearboxes have always had drag issues. 
E-bikes have always had drivetrain issues 

This was inevitable and makes a ton of sense really …

Ironically, the newest talaria’s espouse their bad ass gearbox’s too. 
Pegs or pedals? You choose. 

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19 minutes ago Edited Date/Time 18 minutes ago

I need a rumor…… about a Horst Hightower …..

What’s the word on the next Cruz to “transition” to 4bar?

Where da rumors at? 

(Surrons are peak e-bike)

Ervin321 wrote:

Surron to release a VPP e moto

Santa Cruz to drop a 4 bar emoto to compete against the Surrons..

Seriously tho; that  could be a really great little electric moto - and I bet it would have a 525 reach and a 460 rear center in the XXL CC builds

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sethimus wrote:

While they're saying this is a test, they added the bolt holes for the idler on all production frames.

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I couldn't figure out what these were for, until today.

Makes me think this "concept" is coming sooner than folks are letting on.

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