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12/6/2025 3:23pm Edited Date/Time 12/6/2025 3:24pm
Here's another 2 cents. I love Vital (and its forums) and I love Pinkbike (and its comments). I've followed both for as long as I can...

Here's another 2 cents. I love Vital (and its forums) and I love Pinkbike (and its comments). I've followed both for as long as I can remember. I started mountain biking when I was 12 in the year 2000. I've been around. Both sites are great. Both offer different resources. Both serve the sport we love. But I don't understand why so many Vital readers hate Pinkbike. Like, really really dislike a site that has been so important in building a positive image for mountain biking. I've seen more anti-Pinkbike/anti-that-other-site/anti-rhymes with StinkBike comments on Vital than I can remember. Conversely, I can't recall ever seeing an anti-Vital comment on Pinkbike. Maybe someone can explain where this hate comes from, but I don't get it.

There is zero valuable user feedback on Pinkbike articles and that was what I was getting at. Site content provided by their contributors is a totally different story, they're best in class. Other than being tongue in cheek, I wasn't specific enough. 

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12/6/2025 3:49pm Edited Date/Time 12/8/2025 10:23am

I thought it was playful shit talking. Also the comments are horrible over there and I have had really good discussions here. MTBR has a great user base too but the format of that site is so bad I will not visit anymore 

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12/6/2025 3:55pm

Looks like vivid flight attendants coming anytime now as I’ve seen them pop up on a few bike brands websites on spec bikes. RockShox should make the flight attendant option to just running the rear shock. Don’t think too many have interest in locking out the fork.

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12/6/2025 5:00pm
Trocko wrote:
Looks like vivid flight attendants coming anytime now as I’ve seen them pop up on a few bike brands websites on spec bikes. RockShox should make...

Looks like vivid flight attendants coming anytime now as I’ve seen them pop up on a few bike brands websites on spec bikes. RockShox should make the flight attendant option to just running the rear shock. Don’t think too many have interest in locking out the fork.

Have they not been available for a while already? Or have they only been up on Rockshox website, but not possible to order?

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12/7/2025 8:16am
Trocko wrote:
Looks like vivid flight attendants coming anytime now as I’ve seen them pop up on a few bike brands websites on spec bikes. RockShox should make...

Looks like vivid flight attendants coming anytime now as I’ve seen them pop up on a few bike brands websites on spec bikes. RockShox should make the flight attendant option to just running the rear shock. Don’t think too many have interest in locking out the fork.

Etney wrote:

Have they not been available for a while already? Or have they only been up on Rockshox website, but not possible to order?

You need to have the crank sensor and all that junk that goes with it atm. It needs a few sensors like the fox live valve stuff and not bike specific imo.

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12/7/2025 9:25am
Here's another 2 cents. I love Vital (and its forums) and I love Pinkbike (and its comments). I've followed both for as long as I can...

Here's another 2 cents. I love Vital (and its forums) and I love Pinkbike (and its comments). I've followed both for as long as I can remember. I started mountain biking when I was 12 in the year 2000. I've been around. Both sites are great. Both offer different resources. Both serve the sport we love. But I don't understand why so many Vital readers hate Pinkbike. Like, really really dislike a site that has been so important in building a positive image for mountain biking. I've seen more anti-Pinkbike/anti-that-other-site/anti-rhymes with StinkBike comments on Vital than I can remember. Conversely, I can't recall ever seeing an anti-Vital comment on Pinkbike. Maybe someone can explain where this hate comes from, but I don't get it.

I've had two interactions with Pinkbike...

First I read some twenty pages about how they were going to break a world record for jump distance, including page after page of physics equations only for them to abandon the project. Then I got ripped off for $900 in the buy and sell by the old tuner from FOX.

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12/7/2025 9:46am
Trocko wrote:
Looks like vivid flight attendants coming anytime now as I’ve seen them pop up on a few bike brands websites on spec bikes. RockShox should make...

Looks like vivid flight attendants coming anytime now as I’ve seen them pop up on a few bike brands websites on spec bikes. RockShox should make the flight attendant option to just running the rear shock. Don’t think too many have interest in locking out the fork.

Etney wrote:

Have they not been available for a while already? Or have they only been up on Rockshox website, but not possible to order?

They’ve been on RockShox site since beginning of the year but haven’t been available. Guessing now that they are coming on completes, we see them finally available. 

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12/7/2025 11:08am

Who's going to adapt this technology? 

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12/7/2025 5:41pm
GRM50 wrote:
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Ha! Beat me to it.

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12/7/2025 8:14pm Edited Date/Time 12/7/2025 8:15pm

The Flight Attendant Vivid is on Rockshox.com but it is not on the Sram dealer B2B site.

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12/7/2025 10:08pm
big b wrote:

The Flight Attendant Vivid is on Rockshox.com but it is not on the Sram dealer B2B site.

Also included on the firmware page…

https://axs.sram.com/releasenotes/131

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12/8/2025 12:48am

I asked about FA Vivid air and coil when it first appeared on the RS site earlier this year. Was told OEM only. But I don’t think I’ve see a single bike released with it… maybe that’s about to change?

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12/8/2025 4:41am

 Y’all are doing a great job proving Spomer is right to close this thread. 
Tell me some news!!!

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12/8/2025 5:36am

Rumor has it there will be a new Vivid next year...

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12/8/2025 6:52am

Cane Creek Prototype inverted fork shown in this slideshow. 
 

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12/8/2025 7:51am
shreda wrote:

Rumor has it there will be a new Vivid next year...

New 3.2 damper as well.

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12/8/2025 8:11am
johann377 wrote:

New 3.2 damper as well.

Interesting. I wonder what "flaws" they're iterating on with this damper? The 3.1 is already pretty amazing.

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12/8/2025 8:27am
johann377 wrote:

New 3.2 damper as well.

Interesting. I wonder what "flaws" they're iterating on with this damper? The 3.1 is already pretty amazing.

Same here, recently bought the new ZEB and absolutely love the feel of it. Most likely switching my 40 out for a Boxxer based on the feel. 

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12/8/2025 2:24pm

Cane Creek Prototype inverted fork shown in this slideshow. 
 

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Well hello there

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12/8/2025 3:42pm

It has very Stratos S8 vibes

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12/8/2025 4:33pm
johann377 wrote:

New 3.2 damper as well.

Interesting. I wonder what "flaws" they're iterating on with this damper? The 3.1 is already pretty amazing.

johann377 wrote:
Same here, recently bought the new ZEB and absolutely love the feel of it. Most likely switching my 40 out for a Boxxer based on the...

Same here, recently bought the new ZEB and absolutely love the feel of it. Most likely switching my 40 out for a Boxxer based on the feel. 

Replying to this and the 3.2 damper. 

 

There will be a new boxxxer and Zeb coming with tweaked dampers for the new airspring that we have got the spy shots of. 

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12/9/2025 12:24pm

Seems like a quality helmet.  The integrated magnet light is a nice feature as well.  But you couldn’t pay me to use that boa goattee chin strap.

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12/9/2025 12:43pm

Can I be honest, if I can't just click on one thread and read the entire conversation, I probably won't read the forum at all. I find this thread pulls me in and then when I have more time or I'm curious, I check out other threads. But without this main one, I wouldn't bother visiting vital. Wish it were different but I hope I'm at least helping by giving voice to some other people out there.

I enjoy catching up on 6 pages of inane comments to find a nugget of cool rumors. Others might be different.

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12/9/2025 1:11pm
bermed wrote:
Can I be honest, if I can't just click on one thread and read the entire conversation, I probably won't read the forum at all. I...

Can I be honest, if I can't just click on one thread and read the entire conversation, I probably won't read the forum at all. I find this thread pulls me in and then when I have more time or I'm curious, I check out other threads. But without this main one, I wouldn't bother visiting vital. Wish it were different but I hope I'm at least helping by giving voice to some other people out there.

I enjoy catching up on 6 pages of inane comments to find a nugget of cool rumors. Others might be different.

Yup, this thread is what brought me to Vital. So far I've just enjoyed reading, but with the impending closure, I decided it was worth making an account to cast my vote for annual versions of the tech-rumors thread. 

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12/9/2025 4:25pm

I only sub to 3-4 threads this is one of them yearly would be great like teams.

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12/9/2025 10:44pm

Next one:

Frameworks is rumored to shift production to one of Taiwans premium aluminum manufacturers for better manufacturing quality and consistency.

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12/10/2025 5:03am
shreda wrote:

Next one:

Frameworks is rumored to shift production to one of Taiwans premium aluminum manufacturers for better manufacturing quality and consistency.

This would also help with availability.. Unfortunately, until something changes here in the US, this is a move that is hard to avoid..

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12/10/2025 6:32am
shreda wrote:

Next one:

Frameworks is rumored to shift production to one of Taiwans premium aluminum manufacturers for better manufacturing quality and consistency.

Also adding S and XL sizes. Other than the fact that I love my Madonna, not having an XL would have been one of the things keeping from getting a FW. Looks like it's back on the menu. Ha ha.

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12/10/2025 8:21am
shreda wrote:

Next one:

Frameworks is rumored to shift production to one of Taiwans premium aluminum manufacturers for better manufacturing quality and consistency.

This would also help with availability.. Unfortunately, until something changes here in the US, this is a move that is hard to avoid..

How old is Frank the Welder? Dude has been making frames since before I can remember. I wonder if he can, or even if he wants to keep up with Frameworks growth?

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