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Longshot here... does anyone fancy a trade on brake setups? My TRPs for your Mavens.
I have some TRP DHR Evos that I'd like to trade for Maven Silvers. I like my TRPs, but now my 3 other bikes have maven's on them and switching back and forth is a pain. I'm going to fire sale these at an insane deal for what they are... but I know that people in this thread are very particular about brakes like I am and figure someone may be in the same situation and going the opposite direction. This set of brakes if flawless, no odd lever issues, no bleed issues and under 400 miles on them.
TRP DHR Evos (silver), Freedom Coast Levers (silver), 2x Shimano Metallic Pads bedded to 203mm TRP RS01E rotors, 2x TRP Organic Pads (blue) bedded to 220mm TRP RS05E rotors, stock trp lever blades, 203mm trp brake adapters, extra bleed/olive fittings.
I have Dominions one one bike, and Trinity's on the other... the Intend brakes are brutal for a small chap like me. almost unreasonable power haha.
Dominions just work, 3yrs of nothing done they just work the same all the time.
Ah, another season and another leaking xt lever to my collection.
They are cheap af but it's a bit dissapointing - the collection is already quite impressive.
Did you try to swap the piston to some aftermarket ones from aliexpress?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQ4cFlRjIsr/?hl=en
Would anyone know when or if there is going to be these new swing links for the mavens available to the public. Currently i think that they are red in the current brakes, these gold ones on luca's bike apparently have a lighter lever feel which would make the mavens way better. i might remember seeing some point during the world cup season troy brosnan was also running something similar.
I believe it's April (or somewhere around April '26) for the launch of a whole range of SRAM products, these included. I wonder if they'll make those available on their own to install on current gen of Mavens
I personally don't feel the lever is hard to pull in any way but do you want a light lever feel on a strong brake? Seems like it would be MORE difficult to modulate if light forces like trail feedback can have more of an affect on lever pull/modulation.
From everything I've read on the topic, a lighter free stroke portion of the pull will mean it gets longer. Think Dominions, which have one of the lightest but also longest free strokes out there.
I wouldn't mind trying the gold cam, but have no issues with the red one. What I care about is the amount of force required to actually slow down, which is way less on Mavens than most other brakes.
Intend Trinity summed up. LOL
Nah. I have two sets of T4V4s - one that was bought all new with the new MC, pistons and seals, and one that was T3V4 and only the levers were replaced with the new T4s. Both sets are strong but the all-new-one has a much lighter lever feel which makes it quite a bit nicer. A lot nicer. I am guessing the difference is in less friction in the new pistons and seals, so that's the next thing I am upgrading this winter.
Ive had three pairs of Dominions and they have less free stroke than any other brake I've used at ~14mm. All very consistent. Definitely don't need long throw for light stroke.
Anyone has real life experience with both the Mavens and the Motives? Yesterday I just got myself a Santa Cruz Tallboy that came with weak brakes (Sram Guide T). On my enduro bike I have Maven Ultimates and I absolutely love them (after years of bad experiences with Shimanos). But now I'm not sure if another set of Mavens (with smaller rotors) will be overkill for the small bike and instead I should get the Motives or if the power difference between them is too big to make the downgrade worthwile. For reference, I'm 85kg and I will definitely ride the bike on all sorts of trails. I already have Mavens on another two bikes, so I prefer to stick to Sram for easier service.
What about Code RSCs? I think the caliper is basically the same as Motive, but you get a swing link and contact point lever.
I like codes with hs2
I guess Code RSCs are a valid option powerwise, but I don't want to deal with both dot and mineral oil.
How are people getting on with the new Hope GR4 & TR4s? I'm especially interested in a comparison between them. There's no detailed reviews out for them yet & I'm not sure why really!
We reviewed them, in case you missed it: https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/hydraulic-disc-brakes/hope-technology/evo-gr4-69746#product-reviews-683186.
Somehow I had, thanks for that, I'll have a read later.
Vital put something up about this about a month ago
I know this sounds crazy, but I would go with db8's with metallic pads and Hs2 rotors before going with the codes at this point. I jumped on my trail bike that had codes with hs2 rotors after being on my bikes with maven's for 6 weeks straight and the lack of braking performance was a bit jarring, also my hands/arms hurt from pulling the levers so hard. The DB8's on the other hand, feel really good and the linear lever throw makes them feel more confidence inspiring then the lack of power combined with the swing link power ramp up.
I was/am faced with the same issue you're facing as I had trp dhr evo's on above mentioned trail bike that were the replacement for the code rsc's that I found insufficient. I was really having a hard time going back and forth between maven's and the trp's with regards to: lever throw, bite point feedback and lever pull effort required for max power. I would get used to them after like 2.5 - 3 descents and would adjust... but the initial first descents were pretty tough.
I ended up going with a set of maven base with 200mm rotors after a lot of brain damage and inner debate. I am not stoked about adding ~150g to the bike, but I think I just need to be over braked and deal with the consequences.
Really? I’d rather get the cheap Lewis than the db8, I find the latter quite bad between lever play and overall feel and lack of power
I just popped a second set of Hope Evo TR4’s on a bike. I dropped a rotor size compared to the Formula cura 4’s they replace.
What I noticed was how the second set bled exactly as fast and easy as the first, the two pairs feel identical in how solid and powerful they are. No issues with the new bleed port.
I’m really impressed.
Anyone with intend trinity set that also tested the hope evo gr4? How do they compare?
I am very happy with my intends, but want to maybe try something new in the future
I really liked the lever feel and power on my DB8's with HS2 rotors, but there are definitely people in the comments and in this thread who disagreed: https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/hydraulic-disc-brakes/sram/db8-59421
100% agree that the stock organic pads on the DB8's need to go immediately in the trash. I think a lot of the reason why people who hate DB8's hated them is because they came stock with organic pads and those people never thought to switch. The organic pad is unrideable for me, and really only valid for beginners, intermediates, and for customers buying them on an city ebike for commuting.
My understanding is the Motive is basically a DB8 with a swinglink and bearings at the main lever pivot, which should make them a little more powerful but will make lever feel a little less linear and predictable. I would definitely take a Motive or DB8 over a Maven for a Tallboy, because I think brake size, tire carcass, and travel amount should roughly be correlated for best results.
Mavens on a tallboy is sort of like putting 35's on a Subaru: everything that makes a Subaru good is going to be less good with 35's. And if you actually need 35-inch tires, you definitely shouldn't pick a Subaru for your terrain.
I have a Tallboy with Mavens and DH tires and yeah, don’t.
Thanks all! Now that I’ve done a few rides on the Tallboy, I can confirm that braking power won’t be the factor limiting this bike. Motives with HS2 rotors should be more than enough
Has anyone tried to fix the high pitch squeal that Hope brakes suffer from? My best guess for the noise would be the phenolic insers that the pistons have. Radic Kaha and Trickstuff Maxima both have nearly the same size pistons, both brakes have hollow stainless steel pistons and use the same V4 pad standard. I've had Maximas and Kahas with Galfer red and green pads. Neither brake ever had the same noise that the V4's have. So I'm wondering if removing the plastic inserts from the V4 pistons would make the brakes quiet.
I've done everything but remove those inserts to remove it. even tried backing plate things.
They just squeek, Wish Hope would actually just admit to a marketing reasoning an it would settle that talk.
My experience with the Tech 4 V4s is that the red pads make noise and the purple ones don't, I tend to run purple as a default and they are pretty quiet in all scenarios.
This is such a good analogy lmao
Motives don't have a swing link. So just a rebranded DB8 then?
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