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11/5/2025 1:07pm
2supple wrote:

435 chainstay across the board...

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Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

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11/5/2025 1:16pm Edited Date/Time 11/5/2025 1:17pm
Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster...

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

Aston and Cahal have their quirks but calling them mediocre riders is complete BS. Both of those guys rip. 

Also 435 chainstay on a modern XL mtb is a joke IMO. Especially for a frame that costs $4k. 

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11/5/2025 1:36pm
Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster...

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

2supple wrote:
Aston and Cahal have their quirks but calling them mediocre riders is complete BS. Both of those guys rip. Also 435 chainstay on a modern XL mtb...

Aston and Cahal have their quirks but calling them mediocre riders is complete BS. Both of those guys rip. 

Also 435 chainstay on a modern XL mtb is a joke IMO. Especially for a frame that costs $4k. 

They have poor attitudes that everything that isn’t this incredibly niche aftermarket brand that only exist in this one country are garbage is insane. Sorry I like to be able to pick my front wheel up.

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11/5/2025 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 11/5/2025 2:10pm
Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster...

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

2supple wrote:
Aston and Cahal have their quirks but calling them mediocre riders is complete BS. Both of those guys rip. Also 435 chainstay on a modern XL mtb...

Aston and Cahal have their quirks but calling them mediocre riders is complete BS. Both of those guys rip. 

Also 435 chainstay on a modern XL mtb is a joke IMO. Especially for a frame that costs $4k. 

They have poor attitudes that everything that isn’t this incredibly niche aftermarket brand that only exist in this one country are garbage is insane. Sorry I...

They have poor attitudes that everything that isn’t this incredibly niche aftermarket brand that only exist in this one country are garbage is insane. Sorry I like to be able to pick my front wheel up.

I re-read this post and couldn't understand what you were trying to say. Not to mention your response seems filled with unnecessary vitriol over someone just mentioning a persons name. 

Judging by your response I can only assume that you're harboring some deep seeded PTSD from him crushing you at the local beer league endubro. Which I do personally feel like that might be worth seeking some help for as it's never good to cary such such a burden mentally. 

All that besides, I'm glad you feel like Evil's 435 rear center is what you want in a size XL. I certainly do not, nor do a lot of people who actually ride bikes larger than a medium. Vote with your wallet and buy one of their bikes. 

Back to tech rumors. Looks like a lot of Fox 38s and 40s are on sale. When do you think they'll announce the new forks? 

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11/5/2025 2:50pm
2supple wrote:

435 chainstay across the board...

Brian Cahal has left the chat

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster...

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

Post your roots and rain page, sir. 

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11/5/2025 3:05pm
They have poor attitudes that everything that isn’t this incredibly niche aftermarket brand that only exist in this one country are garbage is insane. Sorry I...

They have poor attitudes that everything that isn’t this incredibly niche aftermarket brand that only exist in this one country are garbage is insane. Sorry I like to be able to pick my front wheel up.

Greeting people with "what's up assholes?" in videos is not poor attitudes. Leave Unc alone, he's honest and he works hard to spread the good word of long rear centres.

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Something that holds our industry back is that we think that bike skills = bike design skills. They don’t. It helps to have bike skills and experience to inform bike design, but we have some amazing riders designing some absolute turds. Once we accept some of the mediocre riders might actually have deep insights into bike design we will see some huge improvements overall.

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Greeting people with "what's up assholes?" in videos is not poor attitudes. Leave Unc alone, he's honest and he works hard to spread the good word...

Greeting people with "what's up assholes?" in videos is not poor attitudes. Leave Unc alone, he's honest and he works hard to spread the good word of long rear centres.

It seems like he's backed off on that a bit lately... I  thought it was funny and kinda stood out a bit. 

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11/6/2025 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 11/6/2025 1:12pm
2supple wrote:

435 chainstay across the board...

Brian Cahal has left the chat

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster...

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

Rode with Brian ages ago in Whistler. Certified shredder.

But since this is tech rumors, via ride companion episode with Gee, sounds like Atherton could be working on an eeb.

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11/6/2025 4:53pm
2supple wrote:

435 chainstay across the board...

Brian Cahal has left the chat

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster...

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

Yoda wrote:
Rode with Brian ages ago in Whistler. Certified shredder.But since this is tech rumors, via ride companion episode with Gee, sounds like Atherton could be working...

Rode with Brian ages ago in Whistler. Certified shredder.

But since this is tech rumors, via ride companion episode with Gee, sounds like Atherton could be working on an eeb.

Rumors are 170mm aluminum ebike in the works from Atherton, probably modeled around the S-series DW4 link. Nothing confirmed on drive unit yet.

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11/7/2025 4:35am
Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster...

Guys a straight clown and like Paul Aston and others with mediocre skill levels use all these gimmick to try to get them to ride faster but somehow never get any better

Yoda wrote:
Rode with Brian ages ago in Whistler. Certified shredder.But since this is tech rumors, via ride companion episode with Gee, sounds like Atherton could be working...

Rode with Brian ages ago in Whistler. Certified shredder.

But since this is tech rumors, via ride companion episode with Gee, sounds like Atherton could be working on an eeb.

Rumors are 170mm aluminum ebike in the works from Atherton, probably modeled around the S-series DW4 link. Nothing confirmed on drive unit yet.

Without any knowledge to what they actually use I would guess perhaps the new Maxon Motor.

I had a quick ride on the CDuro prototype with the motor and seen the Dedicated Bike with it. Both share a similar construction as the Atherton bike and a square downtube for the battery can be integrated pretty easily. 

Apart from that the motor is pretty small and powerful. It has some nice characteristics and felt pretty natural riding it on the parking lot.

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11/7/2025 5:15am
Yoda wrote:
Rode with Brian ages ago in Whistler. Certified shredder.But since this is tech rumors, via ride companion episode with Gee, sounds like Atherton could be working...

Rode with Brian ages ago in Whistler. Certified shredder.

But since this is tech rumors, via ride companion episode with Gee, sounds like Atherton could be working on an eeb.

Rumors are 170mm aluminum ebike in the works from Atherton, probably modeled around the S-series DW4 link. Nothing confirmed on drive unit yet.

nollak wrote:
Without any knowledge to what they actually use I would guess perhaps the new Maxon Motor.I had a quick ride on the CDuro prototype with the...

Without any knowledge to what they actually use I would guess perhaps the new Maxon Motor.

I had a quick ride on the CDuro prototype with the motor and seen the Dedicated Bike with it. Both share a similar construction as the Atherton bike and a square downtube for the battery can be integrated pretty easily. 

Apart from that the motor is pretty small and powerful. It has some nice characteristics and felt pretty natural riding it on the parking lot.

I was chatting to Maxon ebike manager and he had certainly visited Atherton HQ.... Whether it makes it as the final product will have have to be seen

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11/7/2025 9:51am
joshmtb wrote:
I was chatting to Maxon ebike manager and he had certainly visited Atherton HQ.... Whether it makes it as the final product will have have to...

I was chatting to Maxon ebike manager and he had certainly visited Atherton HQ.... Whether it makes it as the final product will have have to be seen

Any other rumours you've heard ? I'm super interested/curious about the Maxon motors... hopefully it comes on more e-bikes in the next year.

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11/7/2025 10:18am
joshmtb wrote:
I was chatting to Maxon ebike manager and he had certainly visited Atherton HQ.... Whether it makes it as the final product will have have to...

I was chatting to Maxon ebike manager and he had certainly visited Atherton HQ.... Whether it makes it as the final product will have have to be seen

Any other rumours you've heard ? I'm super interested/curious about the Maxon motors... hopefully it comes on more e-bikes in the next year.

Sadly not, I'm actually just a maxon robot motors customer and managed to get a call with the guy because I was interested in the product. Still looking to maybe make my own e bike with their system tho....

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11/7/2025 2:09pm

isn't there an e-bike thread?

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11/8/2025 2:06pm Edited Date/Time 11/8/2025 2:41pm

isn't there an e-bike thread?

When were tech rumours banned from the tech rumours thread?

Edit: Less sarcastic response: The e-bike thread is for non-tech-rumour related e-bike discussions.  The e-bike discussion above however looks very much like tech rumours to me.

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11/8/2025 3:01pm

For anyone interested in bracket testing!:

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11/8/2025 5:31pm

Looks like the Madonna might get the Yalla V2 adjustable dropout soon. Found these on mtbnews.de for a an industry event with everyone attending bike setup pictured https://www.mtb-news.de/news/bock-auf-ballern-2025/

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11/8/2025 9:27pm
1llumA wrote:
Looks like the Madonna might get the Yalla V2 adjustable dropout soon. Found these on mtbnews.de for a an industry event with everyone attending bike setup...

Looks like the Madonna might get the Yalla V2 adjustable dropout soon. Found these on mtbnews.de for a an industry event with everyone attending bike setup pictured https://www.mtb-news.de/news/bock-auf-ballern-2025/

aHR0cHM6Ly9mc3RhdGljMS5tdGItbmV3cy5kZS92My8yOS8yOTAxLzI5MDE3MzUtZGtmOGFyc3NhenJuLWJhYjIwMjVfNDMtb3JpZ2luYWwuanBnaHR0cHM6Ly9mc3RhdGljMS5tdGItbmV3cy5kZS92My8yOS8yOTAxLzI5MDE4MDctd2w0OWViOXhlM2IyLWJhYl9iaWtlc185NDE0MC1vcmlnaW5hbC5qcGc

Damn, those Raaw bikes are sick.

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11/10/2025 7:50am

I love my raw RAAW, but not mad at that purple at all. 

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11/10/2025 8:45am
saskskier wrote:

I love my raw RAAW, but not mad at that purple at all. 

The combo of that purple with the gold Ohlins is 🤌

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11/10/2025 2:31pm

The are a few other gems in the article I linked including Sacki from Bikeyoke personal Banshee Phantom. Tons of stock e-bike too but can be quickly scrolled past.

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11/11/2025 7:15am

Looks like a fresh Orange website with a vastly streamlined # of models: 

https://orangebikes.com/

(I own a Stage 6 and am admittedly biased. I love an Orange!)

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11/11/2025 8:35pm

Yeti human powered bikes going to sixfinity👀

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11/11/2025 9:11pm
Trocko wrote:

Yeti human powered bikes going to sixfinity👀

One step closer to crab

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11/11/2025 10:15pm Edited Date/Time 11/11/2025 10:29pm
Trocko wrote:

Yeti human powered bikes going to sixfinity👀

One step closer to crab

“ChatGPT, show me a yeti crab”

Edit:

IMG 6366

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11/11/2025 11:47pm Edited Date/Time 11/12/2025 1:17am
Trocko wrote:

Yeti human powered bikes going to sixfinity👀

One step closer to crab

Sixfinity is more or less crab with extra steps

Edit: this was only meant in jest so I won't take it any further!

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11/12/2025 12:19am Edited Date/Time 11/12/2025 12:22am
Trocko wrote:

Yeti human powered bikes going to sixfinity👀

One step closer to crab

boozed wrote:

Sixfinity is more or less crab with extra steps

Edit: this was only meant in jest so I won't take it any further!

It is not. Switch infinity is much closer to a Horst link (it is a genuine 4 bar) than sixfinity. It's actually behaving a lot like modern DW links (that if I understand it correctly, do not even conform with the original patent). 

Yeti switching suspension systems would explain the massive sell off on RCZ though. 

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11/12/2025 2:28am

Dread it. Run from it. Crab still arrives.

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11/12/2025 4:03am
Trocko wrote:

Yeti human powered bikes going to sixfinity👀

One step closer to crab

“ChatGPT, show me a yeti crab”Edit:

“ChatGPT, show me a yeti crab”

Edit:

IMG 6366

Wow 7 thumbs down. Don't mess with the yeti fanbois or maybe its the cameltoe on the yeti crab?

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