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dwhere
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6/24/2025 7:44am
thegromit wrote:
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dwhere wrote:

anyone know if its only 170? I guess i could wait 30 mins 

thegromit wrote:

There is a 160 version as well

damn no 180 for a single crown that rides like a dual crown. 

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6/24/2025 8:02am
thegromit wrote:
FYI- there going to be about 5x 170 and 5x 160 in stock and available in the us so go to your LBS and buy one...

FYI- there going to be about 5x 170 and 5x 160 in stock and available in the us so go to your LBS and buy one now if you want one.

How that make any sense?

6/24/2025 8:04am
dwhere wrote:

anyone know if its only 170? I guess i could wait 30 mins 

thegromit wrote:

There is a 160 version as well

dwhere wrote:

damn no 180 for a single crown that rides like a dual crown. 

I am not sure about that. There isnt an option to purchase in that configuration but maybe there is an option for a longer air spring. There might be  diminishing returns on this design as you go longer so maybe they limit to 170?

6/24/2025 8:06am
thegromit wrote:
FYI- there going to be about 5x 170 and 5x 160 in stock and available in the us so go to your LBS and buy one...

FYI- there going to be about 5x 170 and 5x 160 in stock and available in the us so go to your LBS and buy one now if you want one.

Kusa wrote:

How that make any sense?

I guess I should have said this distributor will only have this many but if your LBS has a direct account with fox they will probably have more.

 

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6/24/2025 8:15am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2025 8:16am
ballz wrote:
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as...

Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?

Weight looks to be identical as well.  Why is it so  heavy compared to pushs coil fork

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6/24/2025 8:22am
dwhere wrote:

damn no 180 for a single crown that rides like a dual crown. 

Just as heavy as a dual crown though... 😬

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6/24/2025 8:42am
ballz wrote:
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as...

Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?

do you need to send the fox one back to inspection right after purchase too?

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6/24/2025 8:46am
ballz wrote:
Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as...

Why would anyone pick the Podium over the 9.1? Mass assembled in Asia with yet-to-be-seen quality control, crap damper, same old air spring, yet nearly as heavy as the coil sprung 9.1, same MSRP?

sethimus wrote:

do you need to send the fox one back to inspection right after purchase too?

Good point only if fox didnt have the the most failing shock with the x2. I would probably bet on Push's qc over fox's but I get it, its better to back the big corporate guys and shit on the little guys. AM I RITEEE!

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6/24/2025 8:59am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2025 8:59am
jonkranked wrote:

My first thoughts are that the brake cable rattling around in them guides is going to be noisy and distracting

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thegromit wrote:

MSRP 2k

And the new Shimano mtb shoes are $200. $2,000 for a fork seems… reasonable? God I hate how that feels to say. 

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6/24/2025 11:48am

I wonder if we’ll see an update to the Fox 38 that we’ve seen roll out with other Fox products like an update air shaft assembly. 

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6/24/2025 12:01pm
jalopyj wrote:

I wonder if we’ll see an update to the Fox 38 that we’ve seen roll out with other Fox products like an update air shaft assembly. 

I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its own sleeve not the sanction. I believe the sleeve was actually fox's original solution to the binding problem the new air spring looks to solve. It obviously just weighs a bit more. 

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6/24/2025 12:09pm
dwhere wrote:
I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its...

I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its own sleeve not the sanction. I believe the sleeve was actually fox's original solution to the binding problem the new air spring looks to solve. It obviously just weighs a bit more. 

I'd assume they'd do away with the sleeve and just go with the larger chamber combined with the glidecore.

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6/24/2025 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2025 12:24pm
dwhere wrote:
I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its...

I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its own sleeve not the sanction. I believe the sleeve was actually fox's original solution to the binding problem the new air spring looks to solve. It obviously just weighs a bit more. 

I'd assume they'd do away with the sleeve and just go with the larger chamber combined with the glidecore.

That's where I was thinking it would go as well. But that will require a larger overall change as the equalizing dimples are contained within the sleeve not the stanchion like the 36. So full overhaul with a refined chassis too? Now is even more compilated by where fox sees the 38 going in their product line with the release of podium. 

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6/24/2025 1:07pm
dwhere wrote:
I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its...

I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its own sleeve not the sanction. I believe the sleeve was actually fox's original solution to the binding problem the new air spring looks to solve. It obviously just weighs a bit more. 

I'd assume they'd do away with the sleeve and just go with the larger chamber combined with the glidecore.

I don't think the inner tube will go on the 38 as it's a fundamental part in reducing the ramp up from the trapped lower leg air volume.

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dwhere wrote:
I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its...

I don't know if that glide-core(?) technology in the new air spring is as necessary in the 38 because the air spring is contained in its own sleeve not the sanction. I believe the sleeve was actually fox's original solution to the binding problem the new air spring looks to solve. It obviously just weighs a bit more. 

I'd assume they'd do away with the sleeve and just go with the larger chamber combined with the glidecore.

I don't think the inner tube will go on the 38 as it's a fundamental part in reducing the ramp up from the trapped lower leg...

I don't think the inner tube will go on the 38 as it's a fundamental part in reducing the ramp up from the trapped lower leg air volume.

This.  Without the inner tube on the 38, you get a lot of inherent progression from the lower, like on the Zeb.  Then people like me add on a Noken to counter it.  Looks like at least 1 WC rider was running something similar on their Boxxer last race too.

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6/24/2025 1:14pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2025 1:14pm

Fox is going to replace the separate internal air spring of the 38 and put a regular starter tube instead of the oval internal one it has now to save weight. New FOX 38SL launching 2026. 

(This is basically the current Marzocchi Super Z + a grip X2 damper)

6/24/2025 1:45pm
Fox is going to replace the separate internal air spring of the 38 and put a regular starter tube instead of the oval internal one it...

Fox is going to replace the separate internal air spring of the 38 and put a regular starter tube instead of the oval internal one it has now to save weight. New FOX 38SL launching 2026. 

(This is basically the current Marzocchi Super Z + a grip X2 damper)

New 38's all have regular round steerer tubes, the oval one was phased out over a year ago.

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6/24/2025 1:47pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2025 6:56am
Fox is going to replace the separate internal air spring of the 38 and put a regular starter tube instead of the oval internal one it...

Fox is going to replace the separate internal air spring of the 38 and put a regular starter tube instead of the oval internal one it has now to save weight. New FOX 38SL launching 2026. 

(This is basically the current Marzocchi Super Z + a grip X2 damper)

New 38's all have regular round steerer tubes, the oval one was phased out over a year ago.

Well that shows how much I've paid attention. 

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6/24/2025 2:31pm
bensmith1 wrote:
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Needs Radial Tyres instead of maxxis for maximum hype and aura imo. 

And red brembos 

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6/24/2025 5:23pm
Kusa wrote:

While not a bike related, would be curious if this could eventually make its way into cycling https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65173776/bmw-m-cars-carbon-fiber-alt…

We have been bracing for a carbon fiber ban for 10 years or so and I am confident that the big players have contingency plans in place, but I for one would be psyched on a flax bike!

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6/24/2025 5:31pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2025 5:32pm
Kusa wrote:

While not a bike related, would be curious if this could eventually make its way into cycling https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65173776/bmw-m-cars-carbon-fiber-alt…

We have been bracing for a carbon fiber ban for 10 years or so and I am confident that the big players have contingency plans in...

We have been bracing for a carbon fiber ban for 10 years or so and I am confident that the big players have contingency plans in place, but I for one would be psyched on a flax bike!

Time to start the Flax-pivot thread

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6/24/2025 5:37pm
Fox is going to replace the separate internal air spring of the 38 and put a regular starter tube instead of the oval internal one it...

Fox is going to replace the separate internal air spring of the 38 and put a regular starter tube instead of the oval internal one it has now to save weight. New FOX 38SL launching 2026. 

(This is basically the current Marzocchi Super Z + a grip X2 damper)

The 38 sl is a 36 lol.
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6/24/2025 8:03pm

Looks to be a new tire from Schwable? Looks like a HR3/Hillbilly/Argotal pattern. Maybe an updated Dirty Dan that’s been cut? I imagine it’s radial casing as well. 

 IMG 9489.jpeg?VersionId=4VUXeuT2771gb8lwxkK

 

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6/24/2025 8:34pm
Kusa wrote:

While not a bike related, would be curious if this could eventually make its way into cycling https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a65173776/bmw-m-cars-carbon-fiber-alt…

We have been bracing for a carbon fiber ban for 10 years or so and I am confident that the big players have contingency plans in...

We have been bracing for a carbon fiber ban for 10 years or so and I am confident that the big players have contingency plans in place, but I for one would be psyched on a flax bike!

metadave wrote:

Time to start the Flax-pivot thread

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6/24/2025 8:58pm
Kapolczer wrote:
Looks to be a new tire from Schwable? Looks like a HR3/Hillbilly/Argotal pattern. Maybe an updated Dirty Dan that’s been cut? I imagine it’s radial casing...

Looks to be a new tire from Schwable? Looks like a HR3/Hillbilly/Argotal pattern. Maybe an updated Dirty Dan that’s been cut? I imagine it’s radial casing as well. 

 IMG 9489.jpeg?VersionId=4VUXeuT2771gb8lwxkK

 

Yes, new tire. Was discussed a few weeks back when it broke cover on PB. Was used by a number of Schwalbe athletes in Val Di Sole. 

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