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4/28/2025 11:32pm
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Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website...
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website has some “enter password” to access deal. It looks sick tho. Can’t post a picture cause I’m retarded and on my phone but look up southern gravity on Instagram.

Thank you for my evening chuckles my good man!!  I thought I was the only one that couldn’t figure out posting pics.  I can get some of them but some you have to be Einstein to post!!

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4/29/2025 6:54am
nskerb wrote:
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website...
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website has some “enter password” to access deal. It looks sick tho. Can’t post a picture cause I’m retarded and on my phone but look up southern gravity on Instagram.
Thank you for my evening chuckles my good man!!  I thought I was the only one that couldn’t figure out posting pics.  I can get some...

Thank you for my evening chuckles my good man!!  I thought I was the only one that couldn’t figure out posting pics.  I can get some of them but some you have to be Einstein to post!!

Right click on desired image, copy image, paste into text box.

 

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New e*thirteen Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks and Chainring

Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks

e*thirteen developed the Helix Race GR Cranks to meet the demands of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride riders, engineered and tested with their World Cup and Enduro athletes for durability and performance in challenging conditions.

CS5HAA-100 F3

Working alongside our World Cup DH and Enduro athletes, e*thirteen engineered the new Helix Race GR Cranks. These Forged AL-6066-T6, CNC-sculpted aluminum cranks are designed for the rigors of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride. The Helix Race GR shares the spindle design and low-profile shape with our top-end carbon and alloy cranks, with 83mm and 73mm spindle options. Helix Race GR cranks easily exceed ASTM 5 standards — a work of art made to take a beating.

Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for Downhill, Bike Park, Enduro and Freeride applications

Forged, CNC Machined, AL-6066-T6 arms and 30mm AL 7050-T7 spindle

73mm and 83mm spindle options for enduro and DH bikes

Available in popular gravity crank arm lengths, 160mm and 165mm

Molded crank boots, protective polymer decals, APS adjuster, and self-extractor system included

CS5HAA-102 1

Product Specs:

Chainline

83mm spindle cranks: Helix GR Chainrings for 56.5mm chainline

73mm spindle cranks: Helix Chainrings for 55mm chainline

Chainring

83mm spindle cranks - Helix GR Chainring

73mm spindle cranks - Helix Race, Helix Plus, or Helix Steel DM Chainrings 

*Not compatible with SL or UL Chainrings 

Ring Color: Black, Sterling Silver

Features:

Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for gravity use 

Forged and CNC Machined for optimized strength-to-weight ratio and classic styling 

Molded crank boots 

Adaptive Preload System (APS) 

Proven P3 Connect polygon spindle interface

Length: 160mm, 165mm

Material: Forged, CNC Machined AL 6066-T6 arms, 30mm AL 7075-T73 spindle

Spindle

Width: 73mm or 83mm

Diameter: 30mm

Interface: P3 Connect

Weight:  

83mm x 160mm: 590g / 664g w 34t Ring

83mm x 165mm: 607g / 681g w 34T ring

73mm x 160mm: 584g / 638g w 34T Helix Race Chainring

73mm x 165mm: 599g / 653g w 34T Helix Race Chainring

$239.95 USD

CR5HAA-104 S

Helix Race GR Direct Mount Chainrings

Helix Race GR chainrings are direct mount chainrings engineered to withstand the punishment of downhill, bike park, and freeride disciplines. They’re forged from AL 7075-T6 then machined for beauty and to handle the rigor of downhill riding. Our Quick Connect Direct Mount spline provides proven security and creak-free mounting. Featuring e*thirteen’s M4 narrow-wide tooth profile, GR Rings deliver flawless chain retention, reduced noise and system wear, and seamless compatibility with both Shimano and SRAM drivetrains (including T-type). Available in 34T and 36T sizes and Black or Sterling Silver color options. 

Product Specs:

Chain Retention: Updated M4 narrow-wide tooth profile improved retention, reduced chain noise, and decreased system wear

Chainline: 56.5mm with Helix Race GR 83mm spindle cranks

Color: Black, Sterling Silver

Compatibility: Helix Race GR 83mm Spindle cranks (73mm Cranks use Helix Race Chainrings) 

Material: AL 7075-T6

Size: 34T / 36T options

Weight: 34T: 74g / 36T: 79g

 

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4/29/2025 8:23am

oneup drops wave flat pedal

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4/29/2025 10:51am
sspomer wrote:

oneup drops wave flat pedal

Hopefully, they drop that stupid, massive inward bearing in the fact that you could feel the axle. This is one of the worst flat  ever.

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4/29/2025 11:11am
sspomer wrote:

oneup drops wave flat pedal

Hopefully, they drop that stupid, massive inward bearing in the fact that you could feel the axle. This is one of the worst flat  ever.

Their pre wave alloy? i've owned a set of those 'big bearing' pedals for years and i've probably put my foot on it once.

Regardless the answer to flat pedals is always the same.... go and buy clip pedals.

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4/29/2025 11:50am
sspomer wrote:

oneup drops wave flat pedal

Hopefully, they drop that stupid, massive inward bearing in the fact that you could feel the axle. This is one of the worst flat  ever.

Their pre wave alloy? i've owned a set of those 'big bearing' pedals for years and i've probably put my foot on it once.Regardless the answer...

Their pre wave alloy? i've owned a set of those 'big bearing' pedals for years and i've probably put my foot on it once.

Regardless the answer to flat pedals is always the same.... go and buy clip pedals.

It's love it or hate it. I have three original ones in rotation, lent them out to friends, I've been running Outlier-esque prototypes for over a year (modular proto with a huge bulge) and they have been in rotation with friends as well and the bulge is 100 % a deal breaker or a non issue. There is no in between. 

Primoz
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sspomer wrote:
New e*thirteen Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks and ChainringHelix Race Alloy GR Crankse*thirteen developed the Helix Race GR Cranks to meet the demands of...

New e*thirteen Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks and Chainring

Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks

e*thirteen developed the Helix Race GR Cranks to meet the demands of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride riders, engineered and tested with their World Cup and Enduro athletes for durability and performance in challenging conditions.

CS5HAA-100 F3

Working alongside our World Cup DH and Enduro athletes, e*thirteen engineered the new Helix Race GR Cranks. These Forged AL-6066-T6, CNC-sculpted aluminum cranks are designed for the rigors of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride. The Helix Race GR shares the spindle design and low-profile shape with our top-end carbon and alloy cranks, with 83mm and 73mm spindle options. Helix Race GR cranks easily exceed ASTM 5 standards — a work of art made to take a beating.

Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for Downhill, Bike Park, Enduro and Freeride applications

Forged, CNC Machined, AL-6066-T6 arms and 30mm AL 7050-T7 spindle

73mm and 83mm spindle options for enduro and DH bikes

Available in popular gravity crank arm lengths, 160mm and 165mm

Molded crank boots, protective polymer decals, APS adjuster, and self-extractor system included

CS5HAA-102 1

Product Specs:

Chainline

83mm spindle cranks: Helix GR Chainrings for 56.5mm chainline

73mm spindle cranks: Helix Chainrings for 55mm chainline

Chainring

83mm spindle cranks - Helix GR Chainring

73mm spindle cranks - Helix Race, Helix Plus, or Helix Steel DM Chainrings 

*Not compatible with SL or UL Chainrings 

Ring Color: Black, Sterling Silver

Features:

Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for gravity use 

Forged and CNC Machined for optimized strength-to-weight ratio and classic styling 

Molded crank boots 

Adaptive Preload System (APS) 

Proven P3 Connect polygon spindle interface

Length: 160mm, 165mm

Material: Forged, CNC Machined AL 6066-T6 arms, 30mm AL 7075-T73 spindle

Spindle

Width: 73mm or 83mm

Diameter: 30mm

Interface: P3 Connect

Weight:  

83mm x 160mm: 590g / 664g w 34t Ring

83mm x 165mm: 607g / 681g w 34T ring

73mm x 160mm: 584g / 638g w 34T Helix Race Chainring

73mm x 165mm: 599g / 653g w 34T Helix Race Chainring

$239.95 USD

CR5HAA-104 S

Helix Race GR Direct Mount Chainrings

Helix Race GR chainrings are direct mount chainrings engineered to withstand the punishment of downhill, bike park, and freeride disciplines. They’re forged from AL 7075-T6 then machined for beauty and to handle the rigor of downhill riding. Our Quick Connect Direct Mount spline provides proven security and creak-free mounting. Featuring e*thirteen’s M4 narrow-wide tooth profile, GR Rings deliver flawless chain retention, reduced noise and system wear, and seamless compatibility with both Shimano and SRAM drivetrains (including T-type). Available in 34T and 36T sizes and Black or Sterling Silver color options. 

Product Specs:

Chain Retention: Updated M4 narrow-wide tooth profile improved retention, reduced chain noise, and decreased system wear

Chainline: 56.5mm with Helix Race GR 83mm spindle cranks

Color: Black, Sterling Silver

Compatibility: Helix Race GR 83mm Spindle cranks (73mm Cranks use Helix Race Chainrings) 

Material: AL 7075-T6

Size: 34T / 36T options

Weight: 34T: 74g / 36T: 79g

 

Exceeding ASTM standard, did something change and the standard now includes meaningful component testing values? As far as I'm aware the standard only categorises bike use and general speeds and jumps with no meaningful loads to test components with... 

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MikeyMT
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4/29/2025 2:11pm
sspomer wrote:

oneup drops wave flat pedal

Hopefully, they drop that stupid, massive inward bearing in the fact that you could feel the axle. This is one of the worst flat  ever.

Idea is really cool but axle bump is not. Maybe next iteration they will finally fix that 

4/29/2025 2:27pm
sspomer wrote:

oneup drops wave flat pedal

Hopefully, they drop that stupid, massive inward bearing in the fact that you could feel the axle. This is one of the worst flat  ever.

MikeyMT wrote:

Idea is really cool but axle bump is not. Maybe next iteration they will finally fix that 

I guess. Been on chromag scarabs since release. Never had an issue and they feel great to me.  No need to change to a lesser quality design like this 

4/29/2025 2:48pm Edited Date/Time 4/29/2025 2:50pm

Beauty!

They appear to be hiding something near the front axle...

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4/29/2025 3:10pm Edited Date/Time 4/29/2025 3:19pm

Beauty!

They appear to be hiding something near the front axle...

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interesting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.

appears to be a big ass brake.  didn't doctor up the rear one

image 282.png?VersionId=J

 

appears to be a different caliper a few pics later:

image 283

edit: the rotors in the first pic look like magura, second pic looks like a gustav maybe? 

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4/29/2025 3:13pm

is that a can of crab meat? 🦀😂

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4/29/2025 3:14pm

Beauty!

They appear to be hiding something near the front axle...

jonkranked wrote:
enhance.gifinteresting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.appears to be a big ass brake.  didn't doctor up the rear one appears to be...

enhance.gif

interesting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.

appears to be a big ass brake.  didn't doctor up the rear one

image 282.png?VersionId=J

 

appears to be a different caliper a few pics later:

image 283

edit: the rotors in the first pic look like magura, second pic looks like a gustav maybe? 

This is from 2024 Worlds in Andorra.

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4/29/2025 3:15pm
cmaac wrote:
This Fox USD fork looks pretty buttoned up with off tool bits - any word on when this will hit the market? 
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This Fox USD fork looks pretty buttoned up with off tool bits - any word on when this will hit the market? 

To buttoned up for a proto for sure.

Should be available by June/July. From what I could gather you‘ll need a different axle size, hence hub.

Nothing official, date nor axle standard, just rumors…

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4/29/2025 3:15pm

They are doing another season on this thing? Aren't we due (overdue) for a production version of the Demo already. 

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4/29/2025 3:30pm

Beauty!

They appear to be hiding something near the front axle...

jonkranked wrote:
enhance.gifinteresting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.appears to be a big ass brake.  didn't doctor up the rear one appears to be...

enhance.gif

interesting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.

appears to be a big ass brake.  didn't doctor up the rear one

image 282.png?VersionId=J

 

appears to be a different caliper a few pics later:

image 283

edit: the rotors in the first pic look like magura, second pic looks like a gustav maybe? 

chriskief wrote:

This is from 2024 Worlds in Andorra.

Good catch. If the brake is blanked out in that first one, maybe it's because they're using different brakes this year? Time will tell.

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4/29/2025 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 4/29/2025 7:22pm
jonkranked wrote:
enhance.gifinteresting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.appears to be a big ass brake.  didn't doctor up the rear one appears to be...

enhance.gif

interesting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.

appears to be a big ass brake.  didn't doctor up the rear one

image 282.png?VersionId=J

 

appears to be a different caliper a few pics later:

image 283

edit: the rotors in the first pic look like magura, second pic looks like a gustav maybe? 

chriskief wrote:

This is from 2024 Worlds in Andorra.

jonkranked wrote:

Good catch. If the brake is blanked out in that first one, maybe it's because they're using different brakes this year? Time will tell.

If that was the case youd see a lot more low budget photoshopping on that post than just this one picture. Given that the bike looks to have a 3 piston caliper because of that size, Id say its a prototype of some sort. Or maybe an Öhlins integrated sensor or something. 

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4/29/2025 8:29pm
sspomer wrote:

oneup drops wave flat pedal

Hopefully, they drop that stupid, massive inward bearing in the fact that you could feel the axle. This is one of the worst flat  ever.

They are my favorite pedals of all time, never noticed the bearing, and the slight convex i find helps my grip due to the middle pins. Was just using Spank Spoon while servicing and found the grip way worse, might just be my foot size and shape though.

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4/29/2025 8:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/29/2025 8:31pm
jonkranked wrote:
is that a can of crab meat? 🦀😂

is that a can of crab meat? 🦀😂

image 284.png?VersionId=PQLk2 .RvctR9

Whatever it is I'll take a 5 year supply if it makes as fast as Loic. 

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4/29/2025 8:47pm

Beauty!

They appear to be hiding something near the front axle...

that‘s an old pic from world champs 2024 with the old proto, that‘s also why there are magura brakes.

nothing new here.

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boozed
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That is some of the clumsiest photoshopping I've ever seen

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4/30/2025 10:40am

I know there's already a bunch of info on it, but looks like Ritchie Rude was racing on the new Fox USD fork at the Squamish Enduro on the weekend. 

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4/30/2025 10:49am
saskskier wrote:
I know there's already a bunch of info on it, but looks like Ritchie Rude was racing on the new Fox USD fork at the Squamish...

I know there's already a bunch of info on it, but looks like Ritchie Rude was racing on the new Fox USD fork at the Squamish Enduro on the weekend. 

p5pb28077286

Shocking lol

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4/30/2025 11:09am
saskskier wrote:
I know there's already a bunch of info on it, but looks like Ritchie Rude was racing on the new Fox USD fork at the Squamish...

I know there's already a bunch of info on it, but looks like Ritchie Rude was racing on the new Fox USD fork at the Squamish Enduro on the weekend. 

p5pb28077286

lot of fox athletes were, even jordi chose it Smile

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Spy ninja 

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Spy ninja 

Spy ninja 

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Isn’t that just a Reign with data acquisition?

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4/30/2025 12:24pm

This came through my inbox this morning, and I figured at least a few water pack yielding individuals would find it interesting/practical. The Ai voice is also too much 😂 Kickstarter HERE 

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4/30/2025 12:30pm
This came through my inbox this morning, and I figured at least a few water pack yielding individuals would find it interesting/practical. The Ai voice is...

This came through my inbox this morning, and I figured at least a few water pack yielding individuals would find it interesting/practical. The Ai voice is also too much 😂 Kickstarter HERE 

Fucking finally! Amirite? 

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Does nobody throw their bladders in the freezer between uses? 

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