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3/20/2025 12:05pm
jonkranked wrote:
so it would seem that the new 34 SL is now the most direct competitor to the RS Sid.  The 32 is only available in tapered...

so it would seem that the new 34 SL is now the most direct competitor to the RS Sid.  The 32 is only available in tapered lowers (gravel) and step-cast, which I just noticed is targeted primarily for marathon XC.  

The SID has also adopted 35mm stanchions (except for the "SL" version). 32mm stanchions are slowly fading away as manufacturers figure out how to shave enough weight from wider-tubed forks to have their cake & eat it too. 

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If they would add hydraulic bottom out or something similar I’d consider running a dhx2, after experiencing that on ext and rockshox I won’t ride a coil without it.

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3/20/2025 2:05pm
Mwood wrote:
Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all...

Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all those who celebrate the relentless innovation we all don't really need!

chriskief wrote:
So we're likely to see...- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with...

So we're likely to see...

- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2
- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor
- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with Bosch
- Wireless XTR + updated brakes, maybe XT as well
- Mechanical SRAM Transmission

What else?

Don't forget new 32! Likely to see that reverse arch one out too.

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3/20/2025 2:58pm Edited Date/Time 3/20/2025 2:59pm
Mwood wrote:
Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all...

Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all those who celebrate the relentless innovation we all don't really need!

chriskief wrote:
So we're likely to see...- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with...

So we're likely to see...

- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2
- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor
- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with Bosch
- Wireless XTR + updated brakes, maybe XT as well
- Mechanical SRAM Transmission

What else?

Maybe New firebird? A pic from kerr blackout already exists.

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3/20/2025 4:03pm

Nice value and seems like a good warranty. 

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3/20/2025 7:29pm
Mwood wrote:
Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all...

Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all those who celebrate the relentless innovation we all don't really need!

chriskief wrote:
So we're likely to see...- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with...

So we're likely to see...

- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2
- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor
- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with Bosch
- Wireless XTR + updated brakes, maybe XT as well
- Mechanical SRAM Transmission

What else?

Dreadnought E bike 

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3/20/2025 8:03pm
sspomer wrote:
Carraig042 wrote:

Nice value and seems like a good warranty. 

How much are they? I clicked on the link but didn’t see a price 

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3/21/2025 12:12am
Mwood wrote:
Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all...

Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all those who celebrate the relentless innovation we all don't really need!

chriskief wrote:
So we're likely to see...- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with...

So we're likely to see...

- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2
- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor
- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with Bosch
- Wireless XTR + updated brakes, maybe XT as well
- Mechanical SRAM Transmission

What else?

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3/21/2025 2:25am
sspomer wrote:
Carraig042 wrote:

Nice value and seems like a good warranty. 

Splayleg wrote:

How much are they? I clicked on the link but didn’t see a price 

$550 with I9 1/1 hubs if you back the Kickstarter. Another $150 after will be regular.

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3/21/2025 4:24am
chriskief wrote:
So we're likely to see...- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with...

So we're likely to see...

- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2
- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor
- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with Bosch
- Wireless XTR + updated brakes, maybe XT as well
- Mechanical SRAM Transmission

What else?

chriskief wrote:

So if the 34sl has the speed holes, we can assume the 36 with the speed holes is also an SL? Hopefully this means fox do a beefed up 36 that can go to 180, and even more hopefully, rockshox come out with an update that makes the Lyrik follow suit. It's plenty stiff enough for 170-180 on a normal bike.

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So if the 34sl has the speed holes, we can assume the 36 with the speed holes is also an SL? Hopefully this means fox do...

So if the 34sl has the speed holes, we can assume the 36 with the speed holes is also an SL? Hopefully this means fox do a beefed up 36 that can go to 180, and even more hopefully, rockshox come out with an update that makes the Lyrik follow suit. It's plenty stiff enough for 170-180 on a normal bike.

With compliance being all the rage atm, that would be very sensible. Offering a long travel fork for lighter riders with reasonable effort looks like a win in my book

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3/21/2025 4:55am
Carraig042 wrote:

Nice value and seems like a good warranty. 

Splayleg wrote:

How much are they? I clicked on the link but didn’t see a price 

Carraig042 wrote:

$550 with I9 1/1 hubs if you back the Kickstarter. Another $150 after will be regular.

Isn't kickstarter supposed to be for new, innovative products or companies? I don't think a middle of the road alloy wheelset from an existing company fits that description. 

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It has been shown that ideas (original intention for Kickstarter) don't do well on crowdfunding platforms, developed products ready to go where crowdfunding is used to pay for the production run are the ones that are successful. In most cases. 

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3/21/2025 5:35am

Can anyone drop some knowledge on the directional spoke drilling?  I think we're all familiar with what WAO is doing with their Convergence line, but how unique and beneficial is the directional drilling in aluminum rims?

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3/21/2025 6:12am
sspomer wrote:
Can anyone drop some knowledge on the directional spoke drilling?  I think we're all familiar with what WAO is doing with their Convergence line, but how...

Can anyone drop some knowledge on the directional spoke drilling?  I think we're all familiar with what WAO is doing with their Convergence line, but how unique and beneficial is the directional drilling in aluminum rims?

I'm honestly not good enough to tell the difference in feel. But I have never had to put a spoke wrench to my Convergence rims. That's good enough for me. 

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3/21/2025 6:17am
Can anyone drop some knowledge on the directional spoke drilling?  I think we're all familiar with what WAO is doing with their Convergence line, but how...

Can anyone drop some knowledge on the directional spoke drilling?  I think we're all familiar with what WAO is doing with their Convergence line, but how unique and beneficial is the directional drilling in aluminum rims?

it's really the same idea as what WeAreOne / PeFarDone is doing.  it's less about the rim material; the goal is to have the surrounding area of the spoke hole more perpendicular to the direction of the spoke. the benefit of it is that the tension loading where the head of the nipple interfaces with the rim is distributed more evenly around this contact area. 

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Isn't kickstarter supposed to be for new, innovative products or companies? I don't think a middle of the road alloy wheelset from an existing company fits...

Isn't kickstarter supposed to be for new, innovative products or companies? I don't think a middle of the road alloy wheelset from an existing company fits that description. 

I think that was the original idea with Kickstarter. It also gives these smaller companies the ability to gain capital without having outside investors and possibly loans.

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3/21/2025 7:18am
Mwood wrote:
Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all...

Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all those who celebrate the relentless innovation we all don't really need!

chriskief wrote:
So we're likely to see...- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with...

So we're likely to see...

- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2
- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor
- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with Bosch
- Wireless XTR + updated brakes, maybe XT as well
- Mechanical SRAM Transmission

What else?

I believe there's a new enduro coming with ubb suspension and a new Santa Cruz bullet Bosch.

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3/21/2025 8:08am Edited Date/Time 3/21/2025 8:08am
Isn't kickstarter supposed to be for new, innovative products or companies? I don't think a middle of the road alloy wheelset from an existing company fits...

Isn't kickstarter supposed to be for new, innovative products or companies? I don't think a middle of the road alloy wheelset from an existing company fits that description. 

Carraig042 wrote:
I think that was the original idea with Kickstarter. It also gives these smaller companies the ability to gain capital without having outside investors and possibly...

I think that was the original idea with Kickstarter. It also gives these smaller companies the ability to gain capital without having outside investors and possibly loans.

It's so stupid.

 

Pay 10% back of retail all up front, with no guarantee that you'll receive a functional product or even anything at all.  What a deal! LMFAO

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3/21/2025 8:10am
sspomer wrote:
Can anyone drop some knowledge on the directional spoke drilling?  I think we're all familiar with what WAO is doing with their Convergence line, but how...

Can anyone drop some knowledge on the directional spoke drilling?  I think we're all familiar with what WAO is doing with their Convergence line, but how unique and beneficial is the directional drilling in aluminum rims?

Quite a few Chinese DtC carbon rim makers like EIE, Farsport, Light Bicycle do directional spoke drilling will have a sticker on the rim bed indicating it.

In alloy rims, they often recommend nipple washer to be used which does the same thing as directional spoke drilling.

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In DT's case the (PHR) washer is there to disperse the load. Without it the nipple would overload the aluminium in the small contact region it would have, deform the contact edge and slowly work it's way through the rim. The same can be achieved with eyelets. 

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3/21/2025 8:54am
Primoz wrote:
In DT's case the (PHR) washer is there to disperse the load. Without it the nipple would overload the aluminium in the small contact region it...

In DT's case the (PHR) washer is there to disperse the load. Without it the nipple would overload the aluminium in the small contact region it would have, deform the contact edge and slowly work it's way through the rim. The same can be achieved with eyelets. 

doesn't DT only require washers on alloy rims without eyelets? my understanding is that washers and eyelets perform essentially the same function eg dispersing the load

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jonkranked wrote:

doesn't DT only require washers on alloy rims without eyelets? my understanding is that washers and eyelets perform essentially the same function eg dispersing the load

Yes, I think that's why he added "The same can be achieved with eyelets." So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, eyelets are heavier and more convenient washers for cheaper alloy rims, and washers are lighter but more inconvenient eyelets for premium alloy rims.

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3/21/2025 9:10am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Yes, I think that's why he added "The same can be achieved with eyelets." So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, eyelets are heavier and more...

Yes, I think that's why he added "The same can be achieved with eyelets." So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly, eyelets are heavier and more convenient washers for cheaper alloy rims, and washers are lighter but more inconvenient eyelets for premium alloy rims.

man, i really need to stop skimming sometimes.  Durr.gif  

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3/21/2025 9:15am
Mwood wrote:
Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all...

Word from a lot of media is that the next 30~ days are going to be busy on this thread. Happy spring/sea otter season to all those who celebrate the relentless innovation we all don't really need!

chriskief wrote:
So we're likely to see...- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with...

So we're likely to see...

- Fox 34 / 36 + Float X2 / DH X2
- Specialized Levo w/ 100nm+ motor
- 2 new Yeti ebikes likely with Bosch
- Wireless XTR + updated brakes, maybe XT as well
- Mechanical SRAM Transmission

What else?

New SRAM mineral oil brake lineup and new AXS post

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3/21/2025 9:32am
samnation wrote:

I believe there's a new enduro coming with ubb suspension and a new Santa Cruz bullet Bosch.

Perhaps a 170mm version of the Vala?

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