"While Pivot’s precision-engineered bearings are designed to last, this program ensures riders are covered in the rare instance a replacement is needed."
Lol. Tell that to all the Pivot linkage bearings I replaced as a shop mechanic. Not saying they're worse than any other brand, but "rare instance" is pretty laughable. Nice of them to offer this now... tough luck for the owners who needed all the bearings in one or both links swapped in past years.
Instead of the Classified system, we need to ressurect the Hammerschmidt. Refine that system, get it lighter, 2x instead of 1.6x overdrive, and now you can...
Instead of the Classified system, we need to ressurect the Hammerschmidt. Refine that system, get it lighter, 2x instead of 1.6x overdrive, and now you can run a DH rear cassette-shifter on your enduro bike.
This thread just spent how many pages arguing about why a racer is using this or that to silence their chainslap, put another feather in the cap of gearboxes for DH racing.
This thread just spent how many pages arguing about why a racer is using this or that to silence their chainslap, put another feather in the...
This thread just spent how many pages arguing about why a racer is using this or that to silence their chainslap, put another feather in the cap of gearboxes for DH racing.
Yep! Gearboxes are THAT BAD that we'd rather put up with all the faffing with chains.
j/k. The truth is I've never ridden a gearbox and have nothing against them. I just like making jokes. I'm down to try one as soon as they end up on a bike that I'd be interested in buying, in a price range I want to hit, at a time I'm looking to buy one, and designed with my specific use case in mind.
Patents on suspension linkage designs "We'd be a lot cooler if we didn't"
Coolness doesn't matter, money does. This is capitalism after all, bike companies are meant to grow and create revenue. That they take that to the extreme, I agree.
Coolness doesn't matter, money does. This is capitalism after all, bike companies are meant to grow and create revenue. That they take that to the extreme...
Coolness doesn't matter, money does. This is capitalism after all, bike companies are meant to grow and create revenue. That they take that to the extreme, I agree.
Its shit like Canfield getting upset that treks proto DH bike has bars of metal with a spring along with an idler mounted somewhere and an adjustable pivot point that makes me roll my eyes.
I have countless hairball linkage drawings that look super similar to this that I have just drawn up and looked at how they would perform for fun... I didn't steal his "idea" I arrived at that shit the same way anyone else would... I used my brain.
I understand how the industry works I just wish at times the industry could you know "be cooler" lol
Anyone ever try and patent Flex stay tech? Should I go do tht now?
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent...
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
It's a proprietary blend of vertical compliance and lateral stiffness.
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent...
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
You are not even allow to speak about compliance in a bicycle whitout bragging about how laterally stiff your BB area is 😉
"MTB Patent rumors and innovation"... Spring can't come soon enought, haha.
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent...
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
You are not even allow to speak about compliance in a bicycle whitout bragging about how laterally stiff your BB area is 😉 "MTB Patent rumors and...
You are not even allow to speak about compliance in a bicycle whitout bragging about how laterally stiff your BB area is 😉
"MTB Patent rumors and innovation"... Spring can't come soon enought, haha.
I've ridden once in the last two months (and have been generally completely inactive) and have been sick for the whole time except one week. I'm losing my mind... This is all I have at the moment.
FWIW, prior art could be argued, but nobody marketed it as a feature. It was done for testing purposes by almost all companies up to this point.
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent...
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
I've ridden once in the last two months (and have been generally completely inactive) and have been sick for the whole time except one week. I'm...
I've ridden once in the last two months (and have been generally completely inactive) and have been sick for the whole time except one week. I'm losing my mind... This is all I have at the moment.
FWIW, prior art could be argued, but nobody marketed it as a feature. It was done for testing purposes by almost all companies up to this point.
Lapierre and Nukeproof both have marketed and sold bikes with movable main pivot positions in the recent past, probably others.
Richie running new Fox coil and new shimano brakes/rotors. Also still has neo sensors by calipers but doesn’t look like Neo shock. Maybe just left them on as he’s offseason testing
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent...
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
Has anyone checked to see if the patent office is still a thing? Could be that none of this matters anymore . . .
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent...
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
Has anyone checked to see if the patent office is still a thing? Could be that none of this matters anymore . . .
I believe it's not cheap to file a patent and if you are not awarded the patent you don't get your money back so... At this time I'd say
"it's the greatest division of government ever, it's great and does amazing things. You should see the people working there. They are Amazing. They do great things, you would love them."
About the whole suspension and patents thingy, does anyone remember when EU said all of the suspension designs do the same thing and therefore do not qualify as patents which lead to a bunch of companies (Canyon, YT, Radon,...) use horst link, they just could not sell the bikes to the States untill the patent expired?
Richie running new Fox coil and new shimano brakes/rotors. Also still has neo sensors by calipers but doesn’t look like Neo shock. Maybe just left them...
Richie running new Fox coil and new shimano brakes/rotors. Also still has neo sensors by calipers but doesn’t look like Neo shock. Maybe just left them on as he’s offseason testing
Richie running new Fox coil and new shimano brakes/rotors. Also still has neo sensors by calipers but doesn’t look like Neo shock. Maybe just left them...
Richie running new Fox coil and new shimano brakes/rotors. Also still has neo sensors by calipers but doesn’t look like Neo shock. Maybe just left them on as he’s offseason testing
About the whole suspension and patents thingy, does anyone remember when EU said all of the suspension designs do the same thing and therefore do not...
About the whole suspension and patents thingy, does anyone remember when EU said all of the suspension designs do the same thing and therefore do not qualify as patents which lead to a bunch of companies (Canyon, YT, Radon,...) use horst link, they just could not sell the bikes to the States untill the patent expired?
I don't remember that, but I would love to know more. Does anyone know more, please?
The EU patent office seems to have a hard time retaining any understanding that my slider-cam linkage is very much not a 6-bar or Horst link.
I recieved a new misunderstanding email yesterday, so I'm trying to decide right now whether applying there is a waste of time and money compared with just securing Germany and UK.
Well, since we were talking about prior art, I hope you don't mind me asking what the novelty compared to Yeti's switch infinity and/or what Maverick bikes did back in the day is?
"While Pivot’s precision-engineered bearings are designed to last, this program ensures riders are covered in the rare instance a replacement is needed."
Lol. Tell that to all the Pivot linkage bearings I replaced as a shop mechanic. Not saying they're worse than any other brand, but "rare instance" is pretty laughable. Nice of them to offer this now... tough luck for the owners who needed all the bearings in one or both links swapped in past years.
Fuck it, let's just go singlespeed with a tensioner and an expanding chainring.
https://youtu.be/xKzX-lIHsyU?si=AOQaPFuOg1OphWOV
This thread just spent how many pages arguing about why a racer is using this or that to silence their chainslap, put another feather in the cap of gearboxes for DH racing.
Yep! Gearboxes are THAT BAD that we'd rather put up with all the faffing with chains.
j/k. The truth is I've never ridden a gearbox and have nothing against them. I just like making jokes. I'm down to try one as soon as they end up on a bike that I'd be interested in buying, in a price range I want to hit, at a time I'm looking to buy one, and designed with my specific use case in mind.
Hot take.
Patents on suspension linkage designs "We'd be a lot cooler if we didn't"
Coolness doesn't matter, money does. This is capitalism after all, bike companies are meant to grow and create revenue. That they take that to the extreme, I agree.
Neko mentioned in the DHSE podcast he will be at a Fox product launch this weekend through next week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvXhYyhhU-g
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That's the XTR Race version, 12 speed, 10-45 cassette. The enduro one has a 10-51 cassette, and the four-pot calipers shown in the video.
That is just a video of another youtube hack hiding behind a mask and showing nothing but pictures that we have all already seen.
Its shit like Canfield getting upset that treks proto DH bike has bars of metal with a spring along with an idler mounted somewhere and an adjustable pivot point that makes me roll my eyes.
I have countless hairball linkage drawings that look super similar to this that I have just drawn up and looked at how they would perform for fun... I didn't steal his "idea" I arrived at that shit the same way anyone else would... I used my brain.
I understand how the industry works I just wish at times the industry could you know "be cooler" lol
Anyone ever try and patent Flex stay tech? Should I go do tht now?
Maybe compliance in general can be patented?
At the rate Shimano and SRAM patent stupid shit just to freeze each other out of future potential projects... I cant see why we can't patent "compliance"
It's a proprietary blend of vertical compliance and lateral stiffness.
You are not even allow to speak about compliance in a bicycle whitout bragging about how laterally stiff your BB area is 😉
"MTB Patent rumors and innovation"... Spring can't come soon enought, haha.
yea but is it artisanal?
Its ethically sourced.
Was gonna say "fair trade" however I think that contradicts this whole joke lol.
I've ridden once in the last two months (and have been generally completely inactive) and have been sick for the whole time except one week. I'm losing my mind... This is all I have at the moment.
FWIW, prior art could be argued, but nobody marketed it as a feature. It was done for testing purposes by almost all companies up to this point.
Lapierre and Nukeproof both have marketed and sold bikes with movable main pivot positions in the recent past, probably others.
Reynolds with a new prototype
Richie running new Fox coil and new shimano brakes/rotors. Also still has neo sensors by calipers but doesn’t look like Neo shock. Maybe just left them on as he’s offseason testing
Has anyone checked to see if the patent office is still a thing? Could be that none of this matters anymore . . .
I believe it's not cheap to file a patent and if you are not awarded the patent you don't get your money back so... At this time I'd say
"it's the greatest division of government ever, it's great and does amazing things. You should see the people working there. They are Amazing. They do great things, you would love them."
About the whole suspension and patents thingy, does anyone remember when EU said all of the suspension designs do the same thing and therefore do not qualify as patents which lead to a bunch of companies (Canyon, YT, Radon,...) use horst link, they just could not sell the bikes to the States untill the patent expired?
Got a link to any of it? Based on what is still patented I'm not sure it's a valid point that they all do the same thing...
Reminds me of the Jade X
Those are MT900 Rotors and Saint brakes.
I don't remember that, but I would love to know more. Does anyone know more, please?
The EU patent office seems to have a hard time retaining any understanding that my slider-cam linkage is very much not a 6-bar or Horst link.
I recieved a new misunderstanding email yesterday, so I'm trying to decide right now whether applying there is a waste of time and money compared with just securing Germany and UK.
Well, since we were talking about prior art, I hope you don't mind me asking what the novelty compared to Yeti's switch infinity and/or what Maverick bikes did back in the day is?