So I've heard on the internet,but measured all my RF, OneUp, Chromag bars, and they're all pretty much bang on, within a mm. Doesn't hurt to...
So I've heard on the internet,but measured all my RF, OneUp, Chromag bars, and they're all pretty much bang on, within a mm. Doesn't hurt to check,but is it really that common?
A few RF bars I had back in the day were routinely 5mm off.
One year DMR fncked up and labeled all the lines as if you were cutting 10 mm of your bars. I.e. 780mm has a 750mm mark on both ends. The only problem was they were 10mm apart, not 5mm so a lot of people had bars 10mm marrower than expected
apparently some guy mated a new front triangle to a balfa bb7 rear. pretty cool! (image found on fb):
apparently some guy mated a new front triangle to a balfa bb7 rear. pretty cool! (image found on fb):
I belive that is André's bike - One of the guys that works at Intend, and the guy most likely to answer if you email them. Super nice guy, and I believe he welds the front triangles himself. He's done a few bikes himself iirc.
Thats also a way better pic of that new (what I assume is) twintubed shock. As well as a carbon prototype blackline fork
Maybe not super interesting - But seems like Dan Booker is rocking some blue/green-ish Mavens on his Hardline SC V10.
Possibly a new limited run from Sram, pattern similar to the red ones they released at launch?
Skimmed through Jack Moirs videos, and this was the only clear-ish shot I could get of them. Im sure there are better images to have from photographers or other ytube vids.
Maybe not super interesting - But seems like Dan Booker is rocking some blue/green-ish Mavens on his Hardline SC V10.Possibly a new limited run from Sram...
Maybe not super interesting - But seems like Dan Booker is rocking some blue/green-ish Mavens on his Hardline SC V10.
Possibly a new limited run from Sram, pattern similar to the red ones they released at launch?
Skimmed through Jack Moirs videos, and this was the only clear-ish shot I could get of them. Im sure there are better images to have from photographers or other ytube vids.
troy brosnan had something about them in his vlog from the first day of hardline, think that they are just a new colour.
troy brosnan had something about them in his vlog from the first day of hardline, think that they are just a new colour.
Ah good catch! Yeah, looks like they're a similar pattern to the red ones from last year. Half the caliper is black, and the outside is "teal" with the acid stains or whatever they called it.
Ah good catch! Yeah, looks like they're a similar pattern to the red ones from last year. Half the caliper is black, and the outside is...
Ah good catch! Yeah, looks like they're a similar pattern to the red ones from last year. Half the caliper is black, and the outside is "teal" with the acid stains or whatever they called it.
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a good look for Pivot. While hardline is an extreme use case, if all the other brand's bikes hold up, it shows that the Pivot is not as strong. For instance, there are guys like Bulldog, who probably outweighs BK by 30%+, coming off the same drop on his 'cheap' ARI frame and it's holding up. The Pivot frame is VERY light. I believe the lightest weight production frame (by far). I'm assuming Pivot engineers are already at their computers today re-designing future frames to have another layer or two of carbon.
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a...
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a good look for Pivot. While hardline is an extreme use case, if all the other brand's bikes hold up, it shows that the Pivot is not as strong. For instance, there are guys like Bulldog, who probably outweighs BK by 30%+, coming off the same drop on his 'cheap' ARI frame and it's holding up. The Pivot frame is VERY light. I believe the lightest weight production frame (by far). I'm assuming Pivot engineers are already at their computers today re-designing future frames to have another layer or two of carbon.
That same video from Moi Moi had Brooke's bike making a similar noise on landing that drop a few clips later. Brooke pulled over to inspect the frame.
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a...
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a good look for Pivot. While hardline is an extreme use case, if all the other brand's bikes hold up, it shows that the Pivot is not as strong. For instance, there are guys like Bulldog, who probably outweighs BK by 30%+, coming off the same drop on his 'cheap' ARI frame and it's holding up. The Pivot frame is VERY light. I believe the lightest weight production frame (by far). I'm assuming Pivot engineers are already at their computers today re-designing future frames to have another layer or two of carbon.
Brook and Bernard are pretty much the same weight, but thats not super important. There are much heavier riders using production bikes and they can still put some massive strain on it too! There should be more than enough margin for error in these frames that hardline isn't an issue. If it was an ultra light prototype just for racing I could understand but they shouldn't be taking that to hardline if it was, and that was a production frame being used which is not a great sign.
This relates to one thing that always bugged me - production bikes aren't always optimised for racing, and race bikes aren't the best for mass production, so it would be better if the bikes for sale were simplified and stronger, while the race bikes can be more highly tuned to suit the very specific task. I don't know if race on sunday, sell on monday is a great argument since the number of DH bikes sold is sweet FA
The point is bikes shouldn't just break like that - you only need to add an extra kilo or so to make a bike wayyyyy more reliable, and the gains for going lighter are negligible compared to the risks it creates
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a...
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a good look for Pivot. While hardline is an extreme use case, if all the other brand's bikes hold up, it shows that the Pivot is not as strong. For instance, there are guys like Bulldog, who probably outweighs BK by 30%+, coming off the same drop on his 'cheap' ARI frame and it's holding up. The Pivot frame is VERY light. I believe the lightest weight production frame (by far). I'm assuming Pivot engineers are already at their computers today re-designing future frames to have another layer or two of carbon.
That same video from Moi Moi had Brooke's bike making a similar noise on landing that drop a few clips later. Brooke pulled over to inspect...
That same video from Moi Moi had Brooke's bike making a similar noise on landing that drop a few clips later. Brooke pulled over to inspect the frame.
It was a brand new bike he only rode for the first time a couple of days before flying out so it's a pretty brutal way to bed it in! He barely had time to do any testing at all so I don't blame him for wanting to keep an eye on it
Kaos is on what appears to be a Rallon with a dual crown at Hardline, and Tahnee pulled out of the race (didn't even show up for a few photos and hits on the "small" features). I wonder if Orbea even has a completed frame at this point. Supposedly it's been spotted in Queenstown, but I don't think there have been any leaked photos yet. Anyone have rumors on the Orbea DH?
I don't see any point in manufacturers having events like what broke Pivot's bike define the level of abuse a bike needs to be able to sustain. It's as if having any rider do a little turn-down or get a tiny bit sideways in the air means it's just another day for the bike industry.
These events have little to no relevance at the retail level. Anyone have HD Motorcycles sales when Evel Knievel was jumping rows of buses?? These events just sell out the discipline if not all bicycling.
I don't see any point in manufacturers having events like what broke Pivot's bike define the level of abuse a bike needs to be able to...
I don't see any point in manufacturers having events like what broke Pivot's bike define the level of abuse a bike needs to be able to sustain. It's as if having any rider do a little turn-down or get a tiny bit sideways in the air means it's just another day for the bike industry.
These events have little to no relevance at the retail level. Anyone have HD Motorcycles sales when Evel Knievel was jumping rows of buses?? These events just sell out the discipline if not all bicycling.
Nobody is forcing these Manufacturers to participate. They can stay home if they don't feel like their equipment is up to the task. They COULD, and in Pivot's case, probably should be more thoroughly dyno testing their frames after their last high profile bike failure.
You mentioned Evel Knievel and Harley Davidson... That combo of bike and rider was indeed groundbreaking, but there's a very good reason why freestyle riders and stunt riders have been riding Japanese and European motocross bikes, instead of HD's since the 80's. HD had no desire to keep up with the sport that E.K. had created. In Hardline's case, manufacturer spending is a drop in the bucket compared to what they spend racing world cups. In Evil Knievel's case, they paid him a tiny, tiny fraction of the money they spent (and still spend) racing Flat Track.
Yes, these events are side shows, but don't kid yourself all these companies love the (almost) free publicity.
fox asked to remove it, so i did. it wasn't public information. the difference between a trackside leak, rider leak or an admin mistake that a brand makes on a website.
fox asked to remove it, so i did. it wasn't public information. the difference between a trackside leak, rider leak or an admin mistake that a...
fox asked to remove it, so i did. it wasn't public information. the difference between a trackside leak, rider leak or an admin mistake that a brand makes on a website.
i get where they're coming from, but for those of us who remember what was stated - this essentially confirms it was not a rumor.
One year DMR fncked up and labeled all the lines as if you were cutting 10 mm of your bars. I.e. 780mm has a 750mm mark on both ends. The only problem was they were 10mm apart, not 5mm so a lot of people had bars 10mm marrower than expected
Atherton, Yeti, commencal ETC use a bearing pivot on their 6-bar linkages for a reason.
I belive that is André's bike - One of the guys that works at Intend, and the guy most likely to answer if you email them. Super nice guy, and I believe he welds the front triangles himself. He's done a few bikes himself iirc.
Thats also a way better pic of that new (what I assume is) twintubed shock. As well as a carbon prototype blackline fork
Maybe not super interesting - But seems like Dan Booker is rocking some blue/green-ish Mavens on his Hardline SC V10.
Possibly a new limited run from Sram, pattern similar to the red ones they released at launch?
Skimmed through Jack Moirs videos, and this was the only clear-ish shot I could get of them. Im sure there are better images to have from photographers or other ytube vids.
troy brosnan had something about them in his vlog from the first day of hardline, think that they are just a new colour.
Ah good catch! Yeah, looks like they're a similar pattern to the red ones from last year. Half the caliper is black, and the outside is "teal" with the acid stains or whatever they called it.
yeah godziek has em too
oh sick! I still regret not hanging on to my 02 bb7 frame when I moved to Nelson for a year in 2012...
If the Pivot is the only bike that breaks this week from that drop (which it likely will be at this point), then it's not a good look for Pivot. While hardline is an extreme use case, if all the other brand's bikes hold up, it shows that the Pivot is not as strong. For instance, there are guys like Bulldog, who probably outweighs BK by 30%+, coming off the same drop on his 'cheap' ARI frame and it's holding up. The Pivot frame is VERY light. I believe the lightest weight production frame (by far). I'm assuming Pivot engineers are already at their computers today re-designing future frames to have another layer or two of carbon.
The new flex rear-end
That same video from Moi Moi had Brooke's bike making a similar noise on landing that drop a few clips later. Brooke pulled over to inspect the frame.
Looks like Scott accidentally posted the yet-to-be-released Gambler's drawing to the geometry section of the current Gambler.
they really dig that ebike look
Brook and Bernard are pretty much the same weight, but thats not super important. There are much heavier riders using production bikes and they can still put some massive strain on it too! There should be more than enough margin for error in these frames that hardline isn't an issue. If it was an ultra light prototype just for racing I could understand but they shouldn't be taking that to hardline if it was, and that was a production frame being used which is not a great sign.
This relates to one thing that always bugged me - production bikes aren't always optimised for racing, and race bikes aren't the best for mass production, so it would be better if the bikes for sale were simplified and stronger, while the race bikes can be more highly tuned to suit the very specific task. I don't know if race on sunday, sell on monday is a great argument since the number of DH bikes sold is sweet FA
The point is bikes shouldn't just break like that - you only need to add an extra kilo or so to make a bike wayyyyy more reliable, and the gains for going lighter are negligible compared to the risks it creates
It was a brand new bike he only rode for the first time a couple of days before flying out so it's a pretty brutal way to bed it in! He barely had time to do any testing at all so I don't blame him for wanting to keep an eye on it
That thing looks 7, maybe 8 months along? Wonder if the baby shower happened yet.
Kaos is on what appears to be a Rallon with a dual crown at Hardline, and Tahnee pulled out of the race (didn't even show up for a few photos and hits on the "small" features). I wonder if Orbea even has a completed frame at this point. Supposedly it's been spotted in Queenstown, but I don't think there have been any leaked photos yet. Anyone have rumors on the Orbea DH?
Scott out here kicking the trends and blazing their own path with the low low pivot bike.
It better have water bottle mounts
I don't see any point in manufacturers having events like what broke Pivot's bike define the level of abuse a bike needs to be able to sustain. It's as if having any rider do a little turn-down or get a tiny bit sideways in the air means it's just another day for the bike industry.
These events have little to no relevance at the retail level. Anyone have HD Motorcycles sales when Evel Knievel was jumping rows of buses?? These events just sell out the discipline if not all bicycling.
I may or may not have seen this at Euro Champs last year.
It really is all new this time.
Nobody is forcing these Manufacturers to participate. They can stay home if they don't feel like their equipment is up to the task. They COULD, and in Pivot's case, probably should be more thoroughly dyno testing their frames after their last high profile bike failure.
You mentioned Evel Knievel and Harley Davidson... That combo of bike and rider was indeed groundbreaking, but there's a very good reason why freestyle riders and stunt riders have been riding Japanese and European motocross bikes, instead of HD's since the 80's. HD had no desire to keep up with the sport that E.K. had created. In Hardline's case, manufacturer spending is a drop in the bucket compared to what they spend racing world cups. In Evil Knievel's case, they paid him a tiny, tiny fraction of the money they spent (and still spend) racing Flat Track.
Yes, these events are side shows, but don't kid yourself all these companies love the (almost) free publicity.
"the oil stays inside the shock... wtf"
What happened to today's earlier comments about Fox's upcoming long travel fork?
fox asked to remove it, so i did. it wasn't public information. the difference between a trackside leak, rider leak or an admin mistake that a brand makes on a website.
I cant find that shot in the video? I wonder if they edited it out?
i get where they're coming from, but for those of us who remember what was stated - this essentially confirms it was not a rumor.
Moi Moi pulled down his video and Spomer nuked the Fox info.
Tech rumors forum bringing the heat this week.
so, 6 bar with a bb concentric lower link like the new ransom