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Eae903
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Question, does anyone know what a tuned mass damper would do for a hardtail? Or a full suspension XC bike? Like does this positively effect a...

Question, does anyone know what a tuned mass damper would do for a hardtail? Or a full suspension XC bike? Like does this positively effect a bike more if it has more or less travel? 

I don’t think the weight matters on how much suspension you have. The heavier it is, the bigger change you feel. Say 400g removes 20% of those...

I don’t think the weight matters on how much suspension you have. The heavier it is, the bigger change you feel. 

Say 400g removes 20% of those vibrations, 600g gets to 35% and 800g will cover 50%.   You just notice the different more. Hope that helps, I have tried 400g and 800g on my fork.

Does a tuned mass damper really do all that much in MTB applications though? The motion of a bike isn't very consistent, so the vibrations will vary a lot. 

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For simplicities sake I'll be using the king crab's pricing from this site: https://fishmanmkt.com/pages/market-pricesWeAreOne: 39.53 lbs - $1976.10Intense: 41.8 lbs lbs - $2089.58Greg's Norco: 45.15...

For simplicities sake I'll be using the king crab's pricing from this site: https://fishmanmkt.com/pages/market-prices

WeAreOne: 39.53 lbs - $1976.10

Intense: 41.8 lbs lbs - $2089.58

Greg's Norco: 45.15 lbs - $2257.04

Gracie's Norco: 43.28 lbs - $2163.56

Transition: 39.37 lbs - $1968.10

Trek: 42.57 lbs - $2128.92

Giant: 39.29 lbs - $1964.10

Crestline - 39.88 lbs - $1993.60

Atherton - 40.32 lbs - $2015.59

Gamux - 44.62 lbs - $2230.55

Pivot - 36.38 lbs - $1818.63

Personally I'd love to pay crab pricing rather than the pricing we have now. Which of these athletes would consider trading to me their bike if I offered their race bike's weight in King Crab?

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homepaged.

homepaged.

crabweight

I'm honored.

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Eae903 wrote:
Does a tuned mass damper really do all that much in MTB applications though? The motion of a bike isn't very consistent, so the vibrations will...

Does a tuned mass damper really do all that much in MTB applications though? The motion of a bike isn't very consistent, so the vibrations will vary a lot. 

Yes it does, I can tell you. Have one on my bike and it is a massive difference in how the entire fork/wheel feels.

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10/2/2024 4:43pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2024 7:26pm

To mark the official arrival of Crab Link as a thing. I did a thing you can install on your chrome based browser (basically completely 100% stolen from the cloud to butt plugin)

I present Horst Link to Crab Link Chrome based plugin!

https://github.com/DServy/horst-to-crab

See it in action here!

Screenshot 2024-10-02 at 5.38.14%E2%80%AFPM


Edit: Please, no one actually use this. 
 

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The new Pivot DH rig is really cool. I wonder if it could run a dropper, the seat post looks like it could???

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DServy wrote:
To mark the official arrival of Crab Link as a thing. I did a thing you can install on your chrome based browser (basically completely 100%...

To mark the official arrival of Crab Link as a thing. I did a thing you can install on your chrome based browser (basically completely 100% stolen from the cloud to butt plugin)

I present Horst Link to Crab Link Chrome based plugin!

https://github.com/DServy/horst-to-crab

See it in action here!

Screenshot 2024-10-02 at 5.38.14%E2%80%AFPM


Edit: Please, no one actually use this. 
 

What a time to be alive

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The new Pivot DH rig is really cool. I wonder if it could run a dropper, the seat post looks like it could???

You could probably use the second chain to crack crab shells

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Got a Kona Minute with a Bafang BBSHD on it. It goes 30mph and hauls a lot of stuff. I really wish it had suspension. With a CRAB link in the back. Cuz when ya hit a pothole at 30 and you're in "cruiser" mode on a sunny afternoon, it is fuckin sketchy. Slow down, you say? Fat chance once you get used to the POWA and the speed! Its glorious! Worst digger in the last 5 years for me was on... the eSUV, and a little squish might have saved me! 

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DServy wrote:
To mark the official arrival of Crab Link as a thing. I did a thing you can install on your chrome based browser (basically completely 100%...

To mark the official arrival of Crab Link as a thing. I did a thing you can install on your chrome based browser (basically completely 100% stolen from the cloud to butt plugin)

I present Horst Link to Crab Link Chrome based plugin!

https://github.com/DServy/horst-to-crab

See it in action here!

Screenshot 2024-10-02 at 5.38.14%E2%80%AFPM


Edit: Please, no one actually use this. 
 

I think this meme is now officially way out of hand but in the best possible way

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The kind of forum sliding Im all for. Right into my veins

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Stop reading this for a day, and now it’s seafood rumors and innovation.


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The only solution is to show up to MSA with a 45 pound bag of raw, dripping king crab meat and see who will take you...

The only solution is to show up to MSA with a 45 pound bag of raw, dripping king crab meat and see who will take you up on the offer. 

Eddy Masters, I know you are reading this. Head to the Fish Market right now! 

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10/2/2024 7:20pm

Guys, this is the Tech Rumors and Innovation thread. Let's get it back on track.

There's been a $2230.55 prize offered up by CraberShox if you can win an Elite DH race with a TMD on your unsprung claw.

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10/2/2024 8:09pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2024 8:32pm

Bike companies are struggling to sell bikes and Giant go a release the new Trance X Advanced SX, one of the best looking fun bikes perfect for Australia in limited countries only so we can't get our hands on it 🤦‍♂️

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I dont want to let this down. 4bar is now crab link for me in this forum. One day I want to see a press release from a bike company, that lurks here, announcing that their frame has “Crab Linkage System”. One day.

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I dont want to let this down. 4bar is now crab link for me in this forum. One day I want to see a press release...

I dont want to let this down. 4bar is now crab link for me in this forum. One day I want to see a press release from a bike company, that lurks here, announcing that their frame has “Crab Linkage System”. One day.

I can imagine Transition launching the next Crab Sentinel 

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Thanks for the nightmares... 

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10/2/2024 11:25pm

Everyone designing bikes can rest easy knowing AI hasn’t caught on yet. The closer you look the more your head hurts.IMG 6893

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What if you ask it to make a Crab Link bike?

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10/2/2024 11:45pm
Primoz wrote:

What if you ask it to make a Crab Link bike?

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sspomer wrote:

the varying weights of crabs may shock you.

world cup DH bike weights.

I know anything about a new saint group feels like beating a dead horse at this point, but it caught my attention that the Pivot mechanic specifically mentioned the Saint cranks. I know when the lugged prototype was first rolling around it was on Raceface Atlas cranks with Saint stickers, but the latest pics do look like Shimano cranks. Not 100% sure if they're just relabeled XTs or XTRs but seemed interesting.

Also Cascade I think it might be past your bedtime, but we'll let it slide in exchange for some Dominion brake booster spy shots...

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10/3/2024 12:14am
brash wrote:
those hybrid type e-mtb's make sense, would be good for adventuring on fire roads (ours are rough AF) and generally good for getting older people on...

those hybrid type e-mtb's make sense, would be good for adventuring on fire roads (ours are rough AF) and generally good for getting older people on bikes. I'm all for it.

Re: Shakeweight on a hardtail, I was thinking about this the other day. My Torrent would be incredible with a bit of sting taken out the back. 

Exactly this, we are all here for latest and most capable bikes designed mostly for descending but haibike targets specifically German market and if anyone ever ventures into the area of northern Alps with their vast network of long range bicycle routes this type of bikes will represent some 90% of what you will see mostly ridden by groups of very active retirees.

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10/3/2024 12:20am
Primoz wrote:

What if you ask it to make a Crab Link bike?

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That’s more of a crabpacking rig 

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10/3/2024 1:18am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 9:26am
Everyone designing bikes can rest easy knowing AI hasn’t caught on yet. The closer you look the more your head hurts.

Everyone designing bikes can rest easy knowing AI hasn’t caught on yet. The closer you look the more your head hurts.IMG 6893

And then Haibike was like: "Hold my beer..." 

EDIT: I'm just realising I was a bit late on this one. Sorry guys. 

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