A lot of folks are favoring the float x over the x2 on their enduro bikes. Same thing over in rockshox land, there are a lot...
A lot of folks are favoring the float x over the x2 on their enduro bikes. Same thing over in rockshox land, there are a lot of riders who don’t see any benefit to running a vivid over an sdu. When you look at how people are running the big shocks it seems like they have to stuff them full of tokens, which then defeats the point of running a big shock. I guess you can get a little more control through the real rough sections but I don’t know first hand because I can’t fit an x2 on my bike. Hoping to try a vivid to see how much of a difference it makes…
Different from a tuning perspective. Out of the box, not very different for an average rider.A well tuned shock of any variant will always beat an un-tuned...
Different from a tuning perspective.
Out of the box, not very different for an average rider.
A well tuned shock of any variant will always beat an un-tuned shock of another design.
Ones twin tube (X2) one is monotube. If you want to learn more id go watch this video:
Neko mentioned working with Fox and having good results with monotube shocks in the enduro frame launch vid and I didn’t really know what that meant. Today I learned a new thing, but damn if it wont take me good long while to fully understand it
Looks like Spec launched new colors for the Turbo Levo SL and more interesting they also quietly launched a new Genie Float X. Basically a Genie with an extra Reservoir.
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air but it gets noticeably hot on long descents and changes feel. This might have fixed that.
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air...
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air but it gets noticeably hot on long descents and changes feel. This might have fixed that.
Yeah but how else are they going to differentiate the stumpy 15 from the stumpy 15 evo?
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air...
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air but it gets noticeably hot on long descents and changes feel. This might have fixed that.
Yeah but how else are they going to differentiate the stumpy 15 from the stumpy 15 evo?
if they actually do an evo version, might just be a buildkit that comes with that shock i guess, still curious why not going with the piggy back design on the stumpy tho
A lot of folks are favoring the float x over the x2 on their enduro bikes. Same thing over in rockshox land, there are a lot...
A lot of folks are favoring the float x over the x2 on their enduro bikes. Same thing over in rockshox land, there are a lot of riders who don’t see any benefit to running a vivid over an sdu. When you look at how people are running the big shocks it seems like they have to stuff them full of tokens, which then defeats the point of running a big shock. I guess you can get a little more control through the real rough sections but I don’t know first hand because I can’t fit an x2 on my bike. Hoping to try a vivid to see how much of a difference it makes…
The real hack is to pickup the linear XL can for the new SDU. Did that on my 160mm enduro bike and added significantly better sensitivity whilst not having to run a comically large shock. I'm only 165 lb's suited up but I ride fairly aggressively and even over full park runs I haven't been able overheat the thing. Rode an X2 prior to that and have been able to briefly ride a couple Vivids, would buy for a DH rig but don't think it's worth the $$$/weight on anything meant to go uphill.
Fox Genie fork incoming? AKA a fork with a larger air spring and piston.
The other site has an article on the Genie-equiped Levo SL, and they write "Word is a fork equivalent on the dual-stage air spring is under development."
Fox Genie fork incoming? AKA a fork with a larger air spring and piston.The other site has an article on the Genie-equiped Levo SL, and they...
Fox Genie fork incoming? AKA a fork with a larger air spring and piston.
The other site has an article on the Genie-equiped Levo SL, and they write "Word is a fork equivalent on the dual-stage air spring is under development."
I imagine it would be fairly easy to implement if you started with a twin tube air spring design like the 38.
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air...
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air but it gets noticeably hot on long descents and changes feel. This might have fixed that.
if they actually do an evo version, might just be a buildkit that comes with that shock i guess, still curious why not going with the...
if they actually do an evo version, might just be a buildkit that comes with that shock i guess, still curious why not going with the piggy back design on the stumpy tho
Sorry, I missed the “if” part of your post.
A speci rep said in an interview that they were saving the Evo name for a bike that really lived up to the title. Obviously they would hold back the piggyback for that bike. Overall it will be a heavier build, maybe different kinematics?!? So they are going to want to make the reg stumpy seem lighter and more trail by comparison.
The people want a €3.6k metal bike with deore and xfusion?
Pretty much inline with Spesh pricing for a while now. My 2014 enduro AL with rubbish parts was over 3k.
7k for a levo SL frame is blowing my mind though.
Can only imagine how expensive and poorly equipped the new Levo's will be, apparently the release has been pushed back again, might be quite outdated by the time they announce it.
The biggest problem with rubbish parts is the rubbish shock that is mostly a big pain to upgrade due to the size and tune that you need to match to the bike.
Too bad Gabel Profi went under, back in the day you could get any single part for Rock Shox shocks and even have a custom valves shock ordered for not much premium over an otherwise off the shelf shock.
The rear tire says infact 27.5Seems odd to me that they come specced with SLX, aren't we waiting for mechanical transmision? Maybe its a mockup photo...
The rear tire says infact 27.5
Seems odd to me that they come specced with SLX, aren't we waiting for mechanical transmision? Maybe its a mockup photo, waiting for the release
There's Shimano on the new Status also. Think it's likely the final spec. Specialized seem the vary between Shimano/SRAM on a year to year basis.
The rear tire says infact 27.5Seems odd to me that they come specced with SLX, aren't we waiting for mechanical transmision? Maybe its a mockup photo...
The rear tire says infact 27.5
Seems odd to me that they come specced with SLX, aren't we waiting for mechanical transmision? Maybe its a mockup photo, waiting for the release
There's Shimano on the new Status also. Think it's likely the final spec. Specialized seem the vary between Shimano/SRAM on a year to year basis.
Yeah, and at least in the past, even alternative xtr/xx1 sworks builds. No, I just tought shimano is phasing out SLX already (I stopped looking at it before summer, but it was a dificult groupset to source parts for, at least in europe)
Genuinely surprised they kept the twin chain transmission on the production bike.That is a lot of proprietary parts and complexity. I assumed they would just simplify it to a traditional idler set up. There must be some tangible benefits to justify it.
Zooming in on the photo. Adjustable progression on lower shock mount. Adjustable geo via seatstay chip Adjustable reach with headset cups. Custom chainset (don't know brand). It will be eye wateringly expensive (not from photo......it's just a Pivot).
Genuinely surprised they kept the twin chain transmission on the production bike.That is a lot of proprietary parts and complexity. I assumed they would just simplify...
Genuinely surprised they kept the twin chain transmission on the production bike.That is a lot of proprietary parts and complexity. I assumed they would just simplify it to a traditional idler set up. There must be some tangible benefits to justify it.
It's the essence of Dave Weagles patent. And the best way to implement a high pivot. It adds less drag than a traditional idler because of the chainring size. The layout I was thinking of a few years ago (pre patent) was twin 22t rings basically as near together as possible, giving you the option to vary the final drive ratio by going to either 20/24 or a 24/20 combo without affecting the antisquat in any way.
Genuinely surprised they kept the twin chain transmission on the production bike.That is a lot of proprietary parts and complexity. I assumed they would just simplify...
Genuinely surprised they kept the twin chain transmission on the production bike.That is a lot of proprietary parts and complexity. I assumed they would just simplify it to a traditional idler set up. There must be some tangible benefits to justify it.
The main point with the two chains was that you can have a smaller chainring for clearance because of the gearing ratio.
Neko mentioned working with Fox and having good results with monotube shocks in the enduro frame launch vid and I didn’t really know what that meant. Today I learned a new thing, but damn if it wont take me good long while to fully understand it
Looks like Spec launched new colors for the Turbo Levo SL and more interesting they also quietly launched a new Genie Float X. Basically a Genie with an extra Reservoir.
I wish this would have been an option on my Stumpy 15. I’ve really been liking the Genie coming from a Vivid Air and SD air but it gets noticeably hot on long descents and changes feel. This might have fixed that.
Yeah but how else are they going to differentiate the stumpy 15 from the stumpy 15 evo?
if they actually do an evo version, might just be a buildkit that comes with that shock i guess, still curious why not going with the piggy back design on the stumpy tho
The real hack is to pickup the linear XL can for the new SDU. Did that on my 160mm enduro bike and added significantly better sensitivity whilst not having to run a comically large shock. I'm only 165 lb's suited up but I ride fairly aggressively and even over full park runs I haven't been able overheat the thing. Rode an X2 prior to that and have been able to briefly ride a couple Vivids, would buy for a DH rig but don't think it's worth the $$$/weight on anything meant to go uphill.
Fox Genie fork incoming? AKA a fork with a larger air spring and piston.
The other site has an article on the Genie-equiped Levo SL, and they write "Word is a fork equivalent on the dual-stage air spring is under development."
I imagine it would be fairly easy to implement if you started with a twin tube air spring design like the 38.
Sorry, I missed the “if” part of your post.
A speci rep said in an interview that they were saving the Evo name for a bike that really lived up to the title. Obviously they would hold back the piggyback for that bike. Overall it will be a heavier build, maybe different kinematics?!? So they are going to want to make the reg stumpy seem lighter and more trail by comparison.
I've come across some the new alloy Stumpjumper,
Base:
https://cykelexperten.dk/specialized-stumpjumper-15-alloy-2025-hvid-s1/
Comp:
https://cykelexperten.dk/specialized-stumpjumper-15-comp-alloy-2025-sort-s1/
Pro/Expert:
https://cykelexperten.dk/specialized-stumpjumper-15-fox-coil-alloy-2025…
Finally Finally! Specialized giving the people what they want!
The people want a €3.6k metal bike with deore and xfusion?
It's a 3,6k € Specialized.
wait, Psylo ?
edit: just realized it had been released already. My bad
Pretty much inline with Spesh pricing for a while now. My 2014 enduro AL with rubbish parts was over 3k.
7k for a levo SL frame is blowing my mind though.
Can only imagine how expensive and poorly equipped the new Levo's will be, apparently the release has been pushed back again, might be quite outdated by the time they announce it.
The biggest problem with rubbish parts is the rubbish shock that is mostly a big pain to upgrade due to the size and tune that you need to match to the bike.
Too bad Gabel Profi went under, back in the day you could get any single part for Rock Shox shocks and even have a custom valves shock ordered for not much premium over an otherwise off the shelf shock.
That Pro/Expert looks mullet to me....anyone else?
New production Phoenix on the latest issue of Enduro MTB
Oh yes!
The rear tire says infact 27.5
Seems odd to me that they come specced with SLX, aren't we waiting for mechanical transmision? Maybe its a mockup photo, waiting for the release
Check out the Enduro Mag. They alreay have a test…sorry cannot not upload png to the forum. 😂
There's Shimano on the new Status also. Think it's likely the final spec. Specialized seem the vary between Shimano/SRAM on a year to year basis.
Yeah, and at least in the past, even alternative xtr/xx1 sworks builds. No, I just tought shimano is phasing out SLX already (I stopped looking at it before summer, but it was a dificult groupset to source parts for, at least in europe)
Genuinely surprised they kept the twin chain transmission on the production bike.That is a lot of proprietary parts and complexity. I assumed they would just simplify it to a traditional idler set up. There must be some tangible benefits to justify it.
Any more details on pivot DH bike?
Zooming in on the photo.
Adjustable progression on lower shock mount.
Adjustable geo via seatstay chip
Adjustable reach with headset cups.
Custom chainset (don't know brand).
It will be eye wateringly expensive (not from photo......it's just a Pivot).
It's the essence of Dave Weagles patent. And the best way to implement a high pivot. It adds less drag than a traditional idler because of the chainring size. The layout I was thinking of a few years ago (pre patent) was twin 22t rings basically as near together as possible, giving you the option to vary the final drive ratio by going to either 20/24 or a 24/20 combo without affecting the antisquat in any way.
The main point with the two chains was that you can have a smaller chainring for clearance because of the gearing ratio.
3.5k you get Fox suspensions...but not that cool as S
https://images2.giant-bicycles.com/b_white%2Cc_pad%2Ch_2000%2Cq_80/jii1…