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after my latest build i'm considering making the jump to an electronic dropper... if the price is right.
I feel you, routing a dropper can be painful. That being said...I sold my AXS dropper and went with one up v3. Can get a 210 drop instead of the 175 max on the AXS, and a much lower stack height.
i mean, it wasn't awful. just a hassle. the thought of just slapping it in and GO certainly has an appeal.
Lessee, Mid-August, Taichung Bike Week is a bit over a month away, and the industry is still swimming in inventory. My bet is there are new goods waiting for stock levels to taper before release and some of the new bits will be showing up next month. No intel to justify my theory, but it would follow a pattern from prev boom/bust cycles.
MSRP-----------$$$$$$860
@Dave_Camp Just curious, at what velocity are those number generated?
SIZE ???
Thank you !! Was really hoping for a 240mm, I'll stick with the Oneup until then.
where'd you see the MSRP?
It probably shows pricing if you log in with a shop account.
it's here- @TEAMROBOT's ochain vs no chain feature is live. please discuss it on that review page instead of clogging up tech rumors. charlie rules!
https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/can-pedal-kickback-denier-see-light
charlie's alternative seinfeld-inspired thumbnail
Great read. Thanks for the doing the work for us, and damn you for making me think about getting an o-chain...
Everything I've heard points to them trying to generate cash/move overstock in a terrible bike market. The 'clearance' pricing is not about a new model coming out, but rather trying to generate cash flow.
Haha, no surprise the Shimano (who's electronic shift system is way off the back in 2024) PM would say that on a podcast about (to hype) Shimano products.
Similar to the famous quote by Steve Balmer that iPhones wouldn't be successful in business because they didn't have a physical keyboard.
Shimano's electronic MTB shifting is currently dead in the water for mountain bikes. It has virtually 0% spec on OEM builds. With SRAM introducing the lower cost "S" series wireless Transmission kit, you will see a ton of it flooding OEM builds in 2025 and beyond. By 2026, I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of OEM MTBs (with price points over $3,000) are SRAM wireless Transmission.
Lots of great talking points. I’ve been running an ochain and also have felt a noticeable improvement especially under braking. It makes me wonder how much influence our current drivetrain system (chain, derailleur, clutch) has on suspension performance and if gearbox bikes also suffer from “chain growth” and pedal kickback.
That would make sense if they had bikes, but a lot of things are sold out. Scouts have been sold out in almost every configuration for months.
Also the carbon Sentinel still isn’t UDH. I thought we were gonna get an update this summer for sure.
I'll be that guy and repost from the other site. Anyone have any idea what this is?

My buddy stopped in at his local dealer looking at Smugglers and they mentioned September for new Sentinel. He heard UDH, same travel, slightly steeper STA and in-frame storage but no further details
You could pay your LBS to do it and still have a bunch of money left over to spend on wheels/tires/suspension.
There is a new DH bike still to drop this season. Everything isn't dried up just yet.
Design kinda looks like it could be an evil, looks pretty sick
Exactly what I thought at first. It does look great.
The headtube makes it look like an evil as other said. Looks like a flip chip for mullet in that current configuration. The Zeb combo makes me think a new Wreckoning or Insurgent, or they combined both into a singular platform?
Everyone complaining about this thread getting derailed, go read this and comment on it there so all the discussion is actually in a on-topic spot
Thoughts on this?
https://www.instagram.com/loopsdrive/
Imagine if behind your cassette was a 42 tooth cog, and thats where the "pawls" engage instead of in the hub.
naah evil without delta? can't be, it’s the best thing about the bikes!
Can't see Evil dropping Delta ,it really works well and let them be different .
Maybe a new Intense ?
Or something Euro since the rear brake seems like an Intend .
Big legged bird that returns from the ashes?
Would be surprised if they went away front Delta, but the linkage does give me Dave Weagle vibes, maybe delta v2?