So the other site has some drawings from E*13's "floating" hub.
I've felt pedal kickback before, on a DH bike with a really high main pivot...
So the other site has some drawings from E*13's "floating" hub.
I've felt pedal kickback before, on a DH bike with a really high main pivot (previous gen Scott Gambler), but it was at very low speeds, going down multiple foot-high stair-step like rocks on a very steep trail where you're trying to go as slow as possible but losing the battle against gravity. As the speed would pick up past 5 mph it would go away. Its really noticeable if your rear is locked up.
For "normal" riding, I'm super skeptical OChain and other solutions do anything at all. If OChain really does work, doesn't the free motion have to be on the crankset? If the chain is pulling on the front chainring, but the ring is fixed, all this hub would do is prevent the chain growth from attempting to turn the cassette. If you're rolling forward at any decent speed the cassette moving will not catch up with the speed of wheel rotation.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance...
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance after the summer break. Other candidates include the new enduro, stumpjumper, and I'm hoping it's not another ebike.
As has been said a few times in this forum, looks like early June release for new Stumpjumper...
I doubt it's the Stumpy he's filming on:
He's their DH athlete--that's their trail bike. He would either be filming on the final carbon Demo or the new Enduro that was inspired by the proto Demo they've been racing on. Also, if Stumpjumper early June release is accurate, they wouldn't be shooting a high quality video for the bike only 2 weeks before. Need time to edit, do graphics, get approved, make changes, re-edit, etc.
That Bilstein patent looks super interesting... I played with a few frequency sensitive valves at RS but could never get them to work smoothly and/or be...
That Bilstein patent looks super interesting... I played with a few frequency sensitive valves at RS but could never get them to work smoothly and/or be durable. They would ride great on small bump but then you'd hit something that 'bottomed' the frequency sensitive part and it would bang or spike the damping.
Would be cool to see Bilstein enter the MTB market.
How is the lightweight e-moto market, Surron Tallarie etc, affecting the DH Mtb fork market? Is this Bilstein fork a result of the increased demand for these types of forks as upgrades or targeting an OEM market?
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance...
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance after the summer break. Other candidates include the new enduro, stumpjumper, and I'm hoping it's not another ebike.
As has been said a few times in this forum, looks like early June release for new Stumpjumper...
I doubt it's the Stumpy he's filming on: ...
As has been said a few times in this forum, looks like early June release for new Stumpjumper...
I doubt it's the Stumpy he's filming on:
He's their DH athlete--that's their trail bike. He would either be filming on the final carbon Demo or the new Enduro that was inspired by the proto Demo they've been racing on. Also, if Stumpjumper early June release is accurate, they wouldn't be shooting a high quality video for the bike only 2 weeks before. Need time to edit, do graphics, get approved, make changes, re-edit, etc.
Wild to me sometimes how "matter of fact statements" come about based on very little (im making an assumption here)
Bryn Atkinson (DH athlete) has one of the coolest press videos for the Norco Optic. Matt Hunter (freeride athlete) has a great Spesh video on the old Stumpy)
Almost makes sense to do some filmimg with Loic on the new Stumpy, to highlight its descending abilities (especially if there are plans to shelve the EVO model). Not sure it makes any more sense for Bruni to film on the Enduro than the Stumpy.
Bruni could be filming for a segment that gets released a month after launch, or maybe the launch is delayed, or maybe it is filming on the enduro, who the hell knows (other than those at Spesh that are involved).
I could be all wrong in reality, but Bruni railing berms on a flex stay Stumpy for close ups of exploding berms sounds like a friggin good watch to me!
Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see...
Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see if the Ochain really works as advertised?
PLEASE, YES. I've been ignoring the pedal kickback debate by smugly saying "your hub engagement doesn't need to be that high" (in most cases I do not think instant engagement is that big of an advantage). But I would love to actually learn what contributes to it and what can be done to mitigate it.
Also to pay for continuing the thread derailment - I saw what I think was a 29er Bomber 58 this last weekend. It was only in passing but I swear the wheel was too big for a 27.5 and it had the M bridge over the tire. No badging. Anybody seen anything about that?
Another little tidbit - friend tried to buy a Manitou Mara for a lightweight trail bike build he's doing but they're OOS in the size he needed. They said there's a new shock on the way.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back in the day.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the...
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the...
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the...
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the...
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts...
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the...
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts...
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
The rules around this seem very ambiguous (or people at the UCI aren't clear on what telemetry actually is).
By the letter of the rules it seems fine but I know Nick at Downamics/MucOff Younguns has inquired several times about running our data acquisition systems (which have no transmission ability) for race runs and has been refused.
It's now a situation where you can run electronic suspension which collects data AND acts on it while not being able to just collect data. Feels a bit inconsistent to me.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back...
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back in the day.
In the interview with Olivier mentioned that that during those days they would always develop Nico's frame/bike based on the world champ track that year - that was always the focus.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
I personally would bet that those 3 buttons / lights on Loic's and Finn's bike / suspension are for Mapping specific sections of track (Blue Button) that will therefore record the specific suspension / terrain behavior via the data acquisition and then Jack & Kevin with Ohlins can set specific shock tunes for that section of track via a parallel damper ( à la Push 11/6) and than the rider can activate / de-activate said parallel/different tune with the Green / Red Button
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back...
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back in the day.
In the interview with Olivier mentioned that that during those days they would always develop Nico's frame/bike based on the world champ track that year -...
In the interview with Olivier mentioned that that during those days they would always develop Nico's frame/bike based on the world champ track that year - that was always the focus.
The French have always done quite well at adapting bikes specifically for Worlds. I remember Fabien's uber slack (for the time) Kona Stab. They always worked super hard to do all they could to win on that one day.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
I personally would bet that those 3 buttons / lights on Loic's and Finn's bike / suspension are for Mapping specific sections of track (Blue Button)...
I personally would bet that those 3 buttons / lights on Loic's and Finn's bike / suspension are for Mapping specific sections of track (Blue Button) that will therefore record the specific suspension / terrain behavior via the data acquisition and then Jack & Kevin with Ohlins can set specific shock tunes for that section of track via a parallel damper ( à la Push 11/6) and than the rider can activate / de-activate said parallel/different tune with the Green / Red Button
That sounds like a lot to manage during a race run (altho I'm the guy who still occasionally forgets to lower his saddle before dropping in so what do I know...)
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance...
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance after the summer break. Other candidates include the new enduro, stumpjumper, and I'm hoping it's not another ebike.
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance...
Bruni filming on a new bike for Specialized in Poland this week, per WynTV. I'm hoping that finally we'll see the new Demo make it's appearance after the summer break. Other candidates include the new enduro, stumpjumper, and I'm hoping it's not another ebike.
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts...
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like shock adjustment) should occur.
Then run the program in the race, you wouldn’t even need to be distracted by pressing buttons.
I don’t know if this is what’s happening here, or if there are rules about it. Just brainstorming a possibility.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the...
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts...
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
Exactly.
Are probably preset buttons loaded at each stop, for whatever Podcast is getting all... that... hype... Totally seeing this.
For ex. - Upcoming events may just be:
Austria - 'Let's Blitz' (a podcast about Schrader Valve Adapter rumors and innovations)
France - 'Tham Wooden Wheels' (this podcast is all about experimenting with Violin, Viola and Cello Bridge Angles. It eventually gets repetitive...)
France - 'Tham Wooden Wheels' (...episode II)
Canada - 'C.N.D' (a podcast all about those two dudes who changed the name of an area of North America from 'C.N.D.' to Canada. Apparently said 'Eh?' after words quite a bit (**Spoiler Alert**))
Or could be that Taco Button Jon Kranked mentioned a few pages ago.
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with...
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back...
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back in the day.
In the interview with Olivier mentioned that that during those days they would always develop Nico's frame/bike based on the world champ track that year -...
In the interview with Olivier mentioned that that during those days they would always develop Nico's frame/bike based on the world champ track that year - that was always the focus.
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts...
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like...
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like shock adjustment) should occur.
Then run the program in the race, you wouldn’t even need to be distracted by pressing buttons.
I don’t know if this is what’s happening here, or if there are rules about it. Just brainstorming a possibility.
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts...
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like...
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like shock adjustment) should occur.
Then run the program in the race, you wouldn’t even need to be distracted by pressing buttons.
I don’t know if this is what’s happening here, or if there are rules about it. Just brainstorming a possibility.
I like where the tech is going, but this idea seems frought with issues.
What if you get caught offline, what if the course changes slightly, what if you find a faster line as the course develops between track walk, and practice, and qually?
Im thinking the Fox stuff is simply an on/off, and they are working to make that more of an automated system.
the RS stuff, likely a slightly different version of what FA already is, with loads of data to draw from as the system has been in the wild for a bit now.
The 3 button Ohlins, seems like it could be a toggle between two compression circuits (automated version of a Push shock)
Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see...
Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see if the Ochain really works as advertised?
Would be cool to include an older/less modern bike (compatibility considered) that has a ridiculous amount of pedal kickback.
I like where the tech is going, but this idea seems frought with issues.
What if you get caught offline, what if the course changes slightly...
I like where the tech is going, but this idea seems frought with issues.
What if you get caught offline, what if the course changes slightly, what if you find a faster line as the course develops between track walk, and practice, and qually?
Im thinking the Fox stuff is simply an on/off, and they are working to make that more of an automated system.
the RS stuff, likely a slightly different version of what FA already is, with loads of data to draw from as the system has been in the wild for a bit now.
The 3 button Ohlins, seems like it could be a toggle between two compression circuits (automated version of a Push shock)
Another thought on Flight Attendant: by putting FA on World Cup DH bikes, they're facing the ultimate programming and hardware challenge. I think there's actually a lot of trickle down benefit from putting FA on Luca Shaw's bike, Troys, Vali's, etc. Because of the speeds and forces at play, they're getting real world race data that's much more violent then XC or even Enduro, and being forced to refine their programming and sensors to determine what's essential, what's unhelpful, and what's possible. If SRAM can make it work there, it can kinda work anywhere. This is of course assuming they're using it as anything other than an expensive wireless lockout switch.
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts...
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like...
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like shock adjustment) should occur.
Then run the program in the race, you wouldn’t even need to be distracted by pressing buttons.
I don’t know if this is what’s happening here, or if there are rules about it. Just brainstorming a possibility.
I like where the tech is going, but this idea seems frought with issues.
What if you get caught offline, what if the course changes slightly...
I like where the tech is going, but this idea seems frought with issues.
What if you get caught offline, what if the course changes slightly, what if you find a faster line as the course develops between track walk, and practice, and qually?
Im thinking the Fox stuff is simply an on/off, and they are working to make that more of an automated system.
the RS stuff, likely a slightly different version of what FA already is, with loads of data to draw from as the system has been in the wild for a bit now.
The 3 button Ohlins, seems like it could be a toggle between two compression circuits (automated version of a Push shock)
I'm sure there must either be a rule against my idea or it just doesn't deliver wins, it's so simple that if it worked everyone would have done it - and then the rules would have been changed to prohibit it.
I haven't reviewed the rules, was merely noting that you could work around rules against transmitting data (that's the definition of telemetry, right?).
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I think that's the graphic playing tricks on your eyes. Which is precisely the point of it.
Tairin has had this hub available for a while now
https://www.tairinwheels.ca/product-page/silent-shogun-rear-hub
I've been listening to many podcasts discussing technology and advancement in suspension - like the "En Route Libre" episode with Olivier Bossard and the one with Loic Bruni. Seems like the French has always had a formula 1 approach to racing and what I would consider advanced suspension tech when compared to the rest of the field. Even Olivier said that he has ideas of things that could be done now to greatly help riders.
In the latest Inside Line Podcast Dak was saying that he has a hard time making sure he's in the right gear, let alone figuring out what buttons to push and when to make sure the suspension is in the right setting. Hats off to the guys using it... Since suspension electronics is a hot topic right now it got me thinking.
The French teams (and others as well now) always have many people along the course taking notes and analyzing runs. How long until they have people along the course doing the work for the riders? eg. Team determines segment(s) on the course where they need to alter the suspension, have people stand on the side of the track at the beginning of each segments with remotes (or blue tooth devices) and do the work for the rider. The only thing the rider would have to do is disengage everything at the end of these specific segments. Or even course markers like timing systems that would do the work.
That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on data acquisition information based on the course.
As has been said a few times in this forum, looks like early June release for new Stumpjumper...
I doubt it's the Stumpy he's filming on:
He's their DH athlete--that's their trail bike. He would either be filming on the final carbon Demo or the new Enduro that was inspired by the proto Demo they've been racing on. Also, if Stumpjumper early June release is accurate, they wouldn't be shooting a high quality video for the bike only 2 weeks before. Need time to edit, do graphics, get approved, make changes, re-edit, etc.
How is the lightweight e-moto market, Surron Tallarie etc, affecting the DH Mtb fork market? Is this Bilstein fork a result of the increased demand for these types of forks as upgrades or targeting an OEM market?
Wild to me sometimes how "matter of fact statements" come about based on very little (im making an assumption here)
Bryn Atkinson (DH athlete) has one of the coolest press videos for the Norco Optic. Matt Hunter (freeride athlete) has a great Spesh video on the old Stumpy)
Almost makes sense to do some filmimg with Loic on the new Stumpy, to highlight its descending abilities (especially if there are plans to shelve the EVO model). Not sure it makes any more sense for Bruni to film on the Enduro than the Stumpy.
Bruni could be filming for a segment that gets released a month after launch, or maybe the launch is delayed, or maybe it is filming on the enduro, who the hell knows (other than those at Spesh that are involved).
I could be all wrong in reality, but Bruni railing berms on a flex stay Stumpy for close ups of exploding berms sounds like a friggin good watch to me!
PLEASE, YES. I've been ignoring the pedal kickback debate by smugly saying "your hub engagement doesn't need to be that high" (in most cases I do not think instant engagement is that big of an advantage). But I would love to actually learn what contributes to it and what can be done to mitigate it.
Also to pay for continuing the thread derailment - I saw what I think was a 29er Bomber 58 this last weekend. It was only in passing but I swear the wheel was too big for a 27.5 and it had the M bridge over the tire. No badging. Anybody seen anything about that?
Another little tidbit - friend tried to buy a Manitou Mara for a lightweight trail bike build he's doing but they're OOS in the size he needed. They said there's a new shock on the way.
The legendary Sunn team in the late 90s and then Nico's VProcess team where light years ahead of everyone else with that kind of approach back in the day.
"That or maybe eventually they will be able to program the shock/fork to automatically do the work based on telemetry or GPS information based on the course."
I would not be surprised if if this was happening with Bruni's shock/fork already....
Civilian GPS is not accurate enough for that.
Especially GPS with tree cover, the GPS would be very unreliable.
Telemetry systems are banned under the UCI rules.
i wish news articles would call it the proper name data acquisition NOT telemetry!
telemetry broadcasts to a third party location, ie you sat at home at a computer this is banned
recording data that is collected on the bike is not
This probably doesn't help the naming confusion... https://bybtech.it/product/telemetry
The rules around this seem very ambiguous (or people at the UCI aren't clear on what telemetry actually is).
By the letter of the rules it seems fine but I know Nick at Downamics/MucOff Younguns has inquired several times about running our data acquisition systems (which have no transmission ability) for race runs and has been refused.
It's now a situation where you can run electronic suspension which collects data AND acts on it while not being able to just collect data. Feels a bit inconsistent to me.
In the interview with Olivier mentioned that that during those days they would always develop Nico's frame/bike based on the world champ track that year - that was always the focus.
I personally would bet that those 3 buttons / lights on Loic's and Finn's bike / suspension are for Mapping specific sections of track (Blue Button) that will therefore record the specific suspension / terrain behavior via the data acquisition and then Jack & Kevin with Ohlins can set specific shock tunes for that section of track via a parallel damper ( à la Push 11/6) and than the rider can activate / de-activate said parallel/different tune with the Green / Red Button
The French have always done quite well at adapting bikes specifically for Worlds. I remember Fabien's uber slack (for the time) Kona Stab. They always worked super hard to do all they could to win on that one day.
Edit: Retro Race Bikes - Fabien Barel's 2005 Kona Stab Supreme (alltimebikes.com)
That sounds like a lot to manage during a race run (altho I'm the guy who still occasionally forgets to lower his saddle before dropping in so what do I know...)
Probably the new Stumpy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNpb8Mz7fOQ
39:59 Bruni talking about "shooting the new bike"
For DH racing you could probably do this without telemetry. Pre-ride the course, pressing buttons to program the distance from the start gate where events (like shock adjustment) should occur.
Then run the program in the race, you wouldn’t even need to be distracted by pressing buttons.
I don’t know if this is what’s happening here, or if there are rules about it. Just brainstorming a possibility.
Exactly.
Are probably preset buttons loaded at each stop, for whatever Podcast is getting all... that... hype... Totally seeing this.
For ex. - Upcoming events may just be:
Austria - 'Let's Blitz' (a podcast about Schrader Valve Adapter rumors and innovations)
France - 'Tham Wooden Wheels' (this podcast is all about experimenting with Violin, Viola and Cello Bridge Angles. It eventually gets repetitive...)
France - 'Tham Wooden Wheels' (...episode II)
Canada - 'C.N.D' (a podcast all about those two dudes who changed the name of an area of North America from 'C.N.D.' to Canada. Apparently said 'Eh?' after words quite a bit (**Spoiler Alert**))
Or could be that Taco Button Jon Kranked mentioned a few pages ago.
Yeah I recall that interview. Fascinating stuff!
Telemetry is the new dampening.
I like where the tech is going, but this idea seems frought with issues.
What if you get caught offline, what if the course changes slightly, what if you find a faster line as the course develops between track walk, and practice, and qually?
Im thinking the Fox stuff is simply an on/off, and they are working to make that more of an automated system.
the RS stuff, likely a slightly different version of what FA already is, with loads of data to draw from as the system has been in the wild for a bit now.
The 3 button Ohlins, seems like it could be a toggle between two compression circuits (automated version of a Push shock)
Would be cool to include an older/less modern bike (compatibility considered) that has a ridiculous amount of pedal kickback.
Or a budget bike.
Another thought on Flight Attendant: by putting FA on World Cup DH bikes, they're facing the ultimate programming and hardware challenge. I think there's actually a lot of trickle down benefit from putting FA on Luca Shaw's bike, Troys, Vali's, etc. Because of the speeds and forces at play, they're getting real world race data that's much more violent then XC or even Enduro, and being forced to refine their programming and sensors to determine what's essential, what's unhelpful, and what's possible. If SRAM can make it work there, it can kinda work anywhere. This is of course assuming they're using it as anything other than an expensive wireless lockout switch.
I'm sure there must either be a rule against my idea or it just doesn't deliver wins, it's so simple that if it worked everyone would have done it - and then the rules would have been changed to prohibit it.
I haven't reviewed the rules, was merely noting that you could work around rules against transmitting data (that's the definition of telemetry, right?).
teamrobot set a record for forum thumbs up, so here's a preview of what's to come (unlisted, only for the special people in this forum topic) regarding taking out pawls and testing ochain.