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PJ205
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4/10/2024 3:48pm
TimBud wrote:
If I got paid to run them and/or was given them for free I’d stifle my voice. Certainly won’t be purchasing them to use, buy i’m...

If I got paid to run them and/or was given them for free I’d stifle my voice.

Certainly won’t be purchasing them to use, buy i’m tempted to buy them and put them in the stash for when they become collectible 

I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended up leaving with a Podium Gold fork. Nothing on my bike matches anymore and it looks hilariously bad with all of the random colors on it, but I don't even care; function over fashion.

I am EXTREMELY grateful that I was even given the opportunity to go to Scotts Valley to check out all of the impressive new and upcoming products from Fox, Race Face and Marzocchi, and take home some cool new products that I am happily putting to use. It's exciting to swap out some of my favorite parts that I've been riding for almost a couple of years now with well-thought out new products that perform differently, while simultaneously freshening up my enduro bike right before bike park season here in California.

Because of my specific job and the department that I work in, I've been able to see and learn about a ton of really cool new products from a ton of different companies well in advance and it always makes me laugh to read all of the absurdly negative comments from people who have never even seen some of this stuff in person or have any idea how much thought, time and effort that the companies have put into research and development before they're released. If I were an engineer for any bike-related company, I'd probably never visit any sort of forum or comment section solely to maintain sanity.

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FaahkEet
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4/10/2024 3:55pm

The fork sort of matches some of the cat at least. 

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4/10/2024 4:22pm
Losifer wrote:
Gen 6 Knolly Fugitive: https://knollybikes.com/en-ca/products/fugitive-140?variant=40906299310178 $5799 for the XT/ Fox Factory build down to $4599 for the Deore/ Marzocchi build, with frame/ Fox Float X Factory...

Gen 6 Knolly Fugitive:

https://knollybikes.com/en-ca/products/fugitive-140?variant=40906299310…

$5799 for the XT/ Fox Factory build down to $4599 for the Deore/ Marzocchi build, with frame/ Fox Float X Factory at $2499

Also 10% off for the first 50 sold (49 now, cuz I bought a frame)

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4/10/2024 4:23pm
PJ205 wrote:
I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended...

I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended up leaving with a Podium Gold fork. Nothing on my bike matches anymore and it looks hilariously bad with all of the random colors on it, but I don't even care; function over fashion.

I am EXTREMELY grateful that I was even given the opportunity to go to Scotts Valley to check out all of the impressive new and upcoming products from Fox, Race Face and Marzocchi, and take home some cool new products that I am happily putting to use. It's exciting to swap out some of my favorite parts that I've been riding for almost a couple of years now with well-thought out new products that perform differently, while simultaneously freshening up my enduro bike right before bike park season here in California.

Because of my specific job and the department that I work in, I've been able to see and learn about a ton of really cool new products from a ton of different companies well in advance and it always makes me laugh to read all of the absurdly negative comments from people who have never even seen some of this stuff in person or have any idea how much thought, time and effort that the companies have put into research and development before they're released. If I were an engineer for any bike-related company, I'd probably never visit any sort of forum or comment section solely to maintain sanity.

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What is this "specific job" and do you have any job openings?

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4/10/2024 4:23pm

Good to see we can throw another shade of gold in the fork/dropper/X2 kashima colour gamut. Never seen the holy trinity match.

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boozed
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4/10/2024 5:37pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2024 5:39pm
brash wrote:

Good to see we can throw another shade of gold in the fork/dropper/X2 kashima colour gamut. Never seen the holy trinity match.

Throw in some Burgtec "Kash Bronze" components and you're golden.

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rludes025
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4/10/2024 5:44pm
owl-x wrote:
“Tacky” isn’t just for dirt anymore. The gold on gold is objectively bad. That the dampers fit existing forks is great—an admittedly low bar but that’s...

“Tacky” isn’t just for dirt anymore. The gold on gold is objectively bad. That the dampers fit existing forks is great—an admittedly low bar but that’s what mtb manufacturers have done to us. I’ll put one in a fork and pretend I can tell what’s going on for sure. But if it were only offered in the gold/gold, I’d be rattle canning that thing immediately. No more needs to be said. 

I am honestly surprised the dampers fit existing forks. That has not been the way with fox as of late.    i have a Raaw Madonna...

I am honestly surprised the dampers fit existing forks. That has not been the way with fox as of late. 
 

i have a Raaw Madonna frame on its way to me currently and needed a fork for it. I knew fox and RS both have new dampers on the way and I actually went ZEB for this exact reason. Assuming i wouldn’t be able to swap a new damper in the 38, and would be able to on the zeb. Oh well. We’ll see how the new RS damper is soon enough. 

Huh? Fox has generally been good about about backwards compatibility.

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scookson
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4/10/2024 6:22pm

Prototype TRP Calipers on Intense Factory Racing bikes? 
 

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mrpfp
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4/10/2024 7:08pm

Those look dead on the Lewis LH4

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4/10/2024 7:41pm
samdaman1 wrote:
DVO have launched a new Diamond, which is basically just an updated 36mm Onyx (slightly updated CSU but with the same lowers, and supposedly more accurately...

DVO have launched a new Diamond, which is basically just an updated 36mm Onyx (slightly updated CSU but with the same lowers, and supposedly more accurately machined bushings and dropouts for less binding, etc) with the newer D1 damper and SL air spring. Travel is 140mm-160mm and I'd assume that it is still adjustable with spacers similarly to the previous model, but could be wrong. 

The old spring design with the OTT negative spring allowed spacer travel changes, I think the SL spring uses a bypass dimple and air negative spring like Fox / RS, so needs a different length shaft to change travel. 

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4/10/2024 7:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2024 7:51pm

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Electric bits spotted on the super deluxe and zeb?Wonder if that's flight attendant stuff or just for telemetry Huh

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4/10/2024 7:48pm
Update to the DHX?

Update to the DHX?

looks like the electronic version that some riders were on last season

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owl-x
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4/10/2024 8:21pm

it’s madness and I am outraged at these damn gold forx 

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Primoz
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4/10/2024 8:49pm
mrpfp wrote:

Those look dead on the Lewis LH4

Ultimates. 

Primoz
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Electric bits spotted on the super deluxe and zeb?Wonder if that's flight attendant stuff or just for telemetry 

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Electric bits spotted on the super deluxe and zeb?Wonder if that's flight attendant stuff or just for telemetry Huh

Looks like flight attendant but the coil version of the shock is selected people only apparently. 

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4/10/2024 11:46pm
PJ205 wrote:
I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended...

I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended up leaving with a Podium Gold fork. Nothing on my bike matches anymore and it looks hilariously bad with all of the random colors on it, but I don't even care; function over fashion.

I am EXTREMELY grateful that I was even given the opportunity to go to Scotts Valley to check out all of the impressive new and upcoming products from Fox, Race Face and Marzocchi, and take home some cool new products that I am happily putting to use. It's exciting to swap out some of my favorite parts that I've been riding for almost a couple of years now with well-thought out new products that perform differently, while simultaneously freshening up my enduro bike right before bike park season here in California.

Because of my specific job and the department that I work in, I've been able to see and learn about a ton of really cool new products from a ton of different companies well in advance and it always makes me laugh to read all of the absurdly negative comments from people who have never even seen some of this stuff in person or have any idea how much thought, time and effort that the companies have put into research and development before they're released. If I were an engineer for any bike-related company, I'd probably never visit any sort of forum or comment section solely to maintain sanity.

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No one’s being absurdly negative about the fork matey. Just the colour. And no one needs to be EXTREMELY privileged (sic - work in the industry at a shop/dealer) to see that colour. It’s right there in all of the images we’ve been bombarded with.

Colour isn’t anything to get upset about as we can buy the same fork in the other colours and slap some aftermarket decals on it to tone it down or up to our liking. Just like the orange we discussed several pages back.

 

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4/11/2024 12:20am
This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot'...

This same YouTuber also recently did a tour of the Norco headquarters here...here's the best look at what I think is probably an upcoming 'mid-pivot' e-bike, or at least a prototype of one.

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A bit late but I guess this was the Range VLT, lol

LLLLL
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4/11/2024 12:35am
TimBud wrote:
If I got paid to run them and/or was given them for free I’d stifle my voice. Certainly won’t be purchasing them to use, buy i’m...

If I got paid to run them and/or was given them for free I’d stifle my voice.

Certainly won’t be purchasing them to use, buy i’m tempted to buy them and put them in the stash for when they become collectible 

PJ205 wrote:
I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended...

I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended up leaving with a Podium Gold fork. Nothing on my bike matches anymore and it looks hilariously bad with all of the random colors on it, but I don't even care; function over fashion.

I am EXTREMELY grateful that I was even given the opportunity to go to Scotts Valley to check out all of the impressive new and upcoming products from Fox, Race Face and Marzocchi, and take home some cool new products that I am happily putting to use. It's exciting to swap out some of my favorite parts that I've been riding for almost a couple of years now with well-thought out new products that perform differently, while simultaneously freshening up my enduro bike right before bike park season here in California.

Because of my specific job and the department that I work in, I've been able to see and learn about a ton of really cool new products from a ton of different companies well in advance and it always makes me laugh to read all of the absurdly negative comments from people who have never even seen some of this stuff in person or have any idea how much thought, time and effort that the companies have put into research and development before they're released. If I were an engineer for any bike-related company, I'd probably never visit any sort of forum or comment section solely to maintain sanity.

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Wow sitting room tool box 👌🏻👍

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4/11/2024 12:51am
sspomer wrote:
i think we had 14 new bikes/products go live on the homepage yesterday and the week isn't over yet. not sure why that whole "launch on...

i think we had 14 new bikes/products go live on the homepage yesterday and the week isn't over yet. not sure why that whole "launch on tuesday" thing is so real.

Well... Tuesdays are usually the most efficient day to launch a product, most emails are opened/read on that day. 

Mondays are busy days @work and emailboxes are full of crap you'd get through the weekend, so usually the boxes are cleared on tuesdays mornings or so. 

And launching this kind of product on any other day might be too deep in the week: doing it on tuesday means you let 4 full days for the product to ke aknowledged by your community, just before the weekend where they would talk about the new shit on social rides. 

 

(OR this is just about email opening statistics and I'm overthinking)

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4/11/2024 5:21am
PJ205 wrote:
I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended...

I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended up leaving with a Podium Gold fork. Nothing on my bike matches anymore and it looks hilariously bad with all of the random colors on it, but I don't even care; function over fashion.

I am EXTREMELY grateful that I was even given the opportunity to go to Scotts Valley to check out all of the impressive new and upcoming products from Fox, Race Face and Marzocchi, and take home some cool new products that I am happily putting to use. It's exciting to swap out some of my favorite parts that I've been riding for almost a couple of years now with well-thought out new products that perform differently, while simultaneously freshening up my enduro bike right before bike park season here in California.

Because of my specific job and the department that I work in, I've been able to see and learn about a ton of really cool new products from a ton of different companies well in advance and it always makes me laugh to read all of the absurdly negative comments from people who have never even seen some of this stuff in person or have any idea how much thought, time and effort that the companies have put into research and development before they're released. If I were an engineer for any bike-related company, I'd probably never visit any sort of forum or comment section solely to maintain sanity.

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TimBud wrote:
No one’s being absurdly negative about the fork matey. Just the colour. And no one needs to be EXTREMELY privileged (sic - work in the industry...

No one’s being absurdly negative about the fork matey. Just the colour. And no one needs to be EXTREMELY privileged (sic - work in the industry at a shop/dealer) to see that colour. It’s right there in all of the images we’ve been bombarded with.

Colour isn’t anything to get upset about as we can buy the same fork in the other colours and slap some aftermarket decals on it to tone it down or up to our liking. Just like the orange we discussed several pages back.

 

Take it for what it is - FOX Shox 50th anniversary appears to have occurred right as everyone agreed on a hue of Gold Lacquer for a new fork.  ...the 60th Anniversary - everyone right now is said to have one Diamond Bedazzled Hose Anchor - subtlety in leu of recent feedback on the internet this week.

FOX Shox sincerely apologizes about their 50 years of creating products while the internet flourishes... I'd guess. 

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4/11/2024 6:34am Edited Date/Time 4/11/2024 6:34am
sspomer wrote:
i think we had 14 new bikes/products go live on the homepage yesterday and the week isn't over yet. not sure why that whole "launch on...

i think we had 14 new bikes/products go live on the homepage yesterday and the week isn't over yet. not sure why that whole "launch on tuesday" thing is so real.

Nico_Hrndz wrote:
Well... Tuesdays are usually the most efficient day to launch a product, most emails are opened/read on that day.  Mondays are busy days @work and emailboxes...

Well... Tuesdays are usually the most efficient day to launch a product, most emails are opened/read on that day. 

Mondays are busy days @work and emailboxes are full of crap you'd get through the weekend, so usually the boxes are cleared on tuesdays mornings or so. 

And launching this kind of product on any other day might be too deep in the week: doing it on tuesday means you let 4 full days for the product to ke aknowledged by your community, just before the weekend where they would talk about the new shit on social rides. 

 

(OR this is just about email opening statistics and I'm overthinking)

Guarantee product managers/marketers who launched this Tuesday (trying to get the sea otter jump) regret it. It was overload and I’m surprised there wasn’t more coordination with media to prevent it. (I work in a marketing adjacent field and had a campaign launch the week prior, a bit over sensitized w/ launch dates).
 

Maybe analytics prove me wrong, but on Monday I’m already trying to escape work with bike distractions. Non-bike inbox stuff I mass delete. 

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4/11/2024 6:42am
TimBud wrote:
If I got paid to run them and/or was given them for free I’d stifle my voice. Certainly won’t be purchasing them to use, buy i’m...

If I got paid to run them and/or was given them for free I’d stifle my voice.

Certainly won’t be purchasing them to use, buy i’m tempted to buy them and put them in the stash for when they become collectible 

PJ205 wrote:
I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended...

I'm not a professional/talented rider or anyone special by any means, but I am one of the people who was invited to the launch and ended up leaving with a Podium Gold fork. Nothing on my bike matches anymore and it looks hilariously bad with all of the random colors on it, but I don't even care; function over fashion.

I am EXTREMELY grateful that I was even given the opportunity to go to Scotts Valley to check out all of the impressive new and upcoming products from Fox, Race Face and Marzocchi, and take home some cool new products that I am happily putting to use. It's exciting to swap out some of my favorite parts that I've been riding for almost a couple of years now with well-thought out new products that perform differently, while simultaneously freshening up my enduro bike right before bike park season here in California.

Because of my specific job and the department that I work in, I've been able to see and learn about a ton of really cool new products from a ton of different companies well in advance and it always makes me laugh to read all of the absurdly negative comments from people who have never even seen some of this stuff in person or have any idea how much thought, time and effort that the companies have put into research and development before they're released. If I were an engineer for any bike-related company, I'd probably never visit any sort of forum or comment section solely to maintain sanity.

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just curious - was there a raffle/giveaway for the fork, or were they available for purchase to the attendees? 

also, the comment about the fork matching the cat gets my vote for comment of the year.

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PJ205
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4/11/2024 7:28am Edited Date/Time 4/11/2024 7:29am
jonkranked wrote:
just curious - was there a raffle/giveaway for the fork, or were they available for purchase to the attendees?  also, the comment about the fork matching...

just curious - was there a raffle/giveaway for the fork, or were they available for purchase to the attendees? 

also, the comment about the fork matching the cat gets my vote for comment of the year.

All of the product that we received was provided to each of us at the event, there was an entire classroom-sized group of us from all around the world so nothing about this launch was inexpensive for them. We weren't asked to give any glowing reviews of anything or told what to (or not to) say, they were extremely open and honest about every question thrown at them and gave us the opportunity to ride at different places each day of presentations then asked us to try everything at our regular riding spots back home to really notice the difference in performance/ride feel.

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owl-x
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4/11/2024 7:31am

Related: saw my first Cybertruck in the wild last week. 

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4/11/2024 7:58am

Not sure that this has been posted yet but first time ive seen a vivid with a flight attendant piggyback 

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Primoz
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4/11/2024 8:01am

Technically it's modular, so no great surprise there I guess... 

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