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4/1/2024 10:17am Edited Date/Time 4/1/2024 10:20am
jofish wrote:
I’m pretty confident they’re not 3D printed. There are some amazing SLA machines but nothing I’ve seen that would give you that kind of optical clarity...

I’m pretty confident they’re not 3D printed. There are some amazing SLA machines but nothing I’ve seen that would give you that kind of optical clarity and surface finish. It’s possible they could be machined in 2 halves but that would require a hell of a lot of hand finishing which isn't easy on those internal surfaces. They really look like they’ve been tooled up and injection moulded. 

yea, i wasn't certain if you could get that kind of optical clarity directly from 3d printing.  another option is 3d printing the mold and then just thermoforming a clear material. 

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Sandreezy
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4/1/2024 10:19am
Sandreezy wrote:

Um... This looks game changing. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxiIubMTnxk

Looks like a massive step forward for fork/frame rigidity. 

IDK, looks like it would only last for 3-4 minutes

 

hahahaha damnit well played, I cracked up

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Sandreezy wrote:

Um... This looks game changing. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxiIubMTnxk

Looks like a massive step forward for fork/frame rigidity. 

I feel like it would be hard to quantify the improvement. And wouldn't that increase stroke as well?

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4/1/2024 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 4/1/2024 12:56pm

I think you can heat treat and polish (flame polishing and mechanical polishing) transparent 3D prints to get clarity... I would not be surprised at all if the Dangerholm frame is actually 3D printed...

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4/1/2024 2:53pm
Sandreezy wrote:

Um... This looks game changing. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxiIubMTnxk

Looks like a massive step forward for fork/frame rigidity. 

Next iteration will have a "dampener" in the steer tube 

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4/1/2024 7:40pm

An update to the levo comming soon? Saw a guy ripping up Galbraith today with an all raw aluminum levo look alike.

Any other observations? 

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4/1/2024 8:53pm Edited Date/Time 4/1/2024 8:55pm
bizutch wrote:

Nah...it was out there for everyone to see.

Haven't seen a media pic of it though.  Maybe it wasn't that special after all.

junkbox wrote:

name checks out

bizutch wrote:

if you're reaching for insults & butthurt, you're gonna need to dig deeper.

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4/1/2024 9:26pm
junkbox wrote:

name checks out

bizutch wrote:

if you're reaching for insults & butthurt, you're gonna need to dig deeper.

What is the pose lmao

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4/1/2024 11:52pm
bizutch wrote:

if you're reaching for insults & butthurt, you're gonna need to dig deeper.

What is the pose lmao

In Aus we do a Le Mans start for the DH races now, so you gotta wait by the gate and run over to your bike and tear down the track. 

Anyone know how much a Pademelon is? Almost all the pros at Maydena have been testing them this off season

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lickmycrinkle
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4/2/2024 12:28am
bizutch wrote:

if you're reaching for insults & butthurt, you're gonna need to dig deeper.

What is the pose lmao

Magic bike. Stand it up for photos.

On the topic of clear bike, I very much doubt anyone from Scott touched it before it was finished. I have a bud that only does similar types of marketing materials for all sorts of industry. My guess would be cast resin in a silicone mould, anything else is (even more) cost prohibitive.

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What is the pose lmao

In Aus we do a Le Mans start for the DH races now, so you gotta wait by the gate and run over to your bike...

In Aus we do a Le Mans start for the DH races now, so you gotta wait by the gate and run over to your bike and tear down the track. 

Anyone know how much a Pademelon is? Almost all the pros at Maydena have been testing them this off season

Hopey site points to their site now.
But their site is just a "put your email address in the box" site.
No pricing. 
No media.
But...they have a National Champion and zero sales so hopefully they hop to it.

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junkbox
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4/2/2024 5:27am
Does anyone know what Yeti plans to do with switch infinity link? Do they evolve on it in an even more unique fashion? I hope so...

Does anyone know what Yeti plans to do with switch infinity link? Do they evolve on it in an even more unique fashion? I hope so personally. 
 

Also speaking of unique things, what ever came about Cannondale testing the 2 rear shock downhill bike? 

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that...

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that hasn’t been 100% true. With Pivot changing their whole line up to a new platform with some of the same DW attributes. Or Devinci changing all their bikes to all 4 bar horst link.
 

TL;DR: maybe, but I wouldn’t count on it. I definitely wouldn’t count on it being anything other than a DWish platform. 

Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link

Yeti isn't DW Link

Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot

Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot

Being designed by Dave Weagle does not make something a DW Link

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4/2/2024 6:55am
Does anyone know what Yeti plans to do with switch infinity link? Do they evolve on it in an even more unique fashion? I hope so...

Does anyone know what Yeti plans to do with switch infinity link? Do they evolve on it in an even more unique fashion? I hope so personally. 
 

Also speaking of unique things, what ever came about Cannondale testing the 2 rear shock downhill bike? 

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that...

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that hasn’t been 100% true. With Pivot changing their whole line up to a new platform with some of the same DW attributes. Or Devinci changing all their bikes to all 4 bar horst link.
 

TL;DR: maybe, but I wouldn’t count on it. I definitely wouldn’t count on it being anything other than a DWish platform. 

junkbox wrote:
Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link Yeti isn't DW Link Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot...

Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link

Yeti isn't DW Link

Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot

Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot

Being designed by Dave Weagle does not make something a DW Link

Wasn't switch infinity a DW patent work around IIRC?

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4/2/2024 7:13am

What is the pose lmao

In Aus we do a Le Mans start for the DH races now, so you gotta wait by the gate and run over to your bike...

In Aus we do a Le Mans start for the DH races now, so you gotta wait by the gate and run over to your bike and tear down the track. 

Anyone know how much a Pademelon is? Almost all the pros at Maydena have been testing them this off season

I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one ever again, also said arm pump is never an issue anymore with it.
 

As for cost I’m pretty sure the dampener costs almost as much as the fork you’re installing it on. He was probably talking Australian dollars, not USD, so maybe a bit less, was trying to see if i could get my hands on one, but that price he mentioned put me off for the time being. 

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4/2/2024 7:15am

What is the pose lmao

In Aus we do a Le Mans start for the DH races now, so you gotta wait by the gate and run over to your bike...

In Aus we do a Le Mans start for the DH races now, so you gotta wait by the gate and run over to your bike and tear down the track. 

Anyone know how much a Pademelon is? Almost all the pros at Maydena have been testing them this off season

I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one...

I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one ever again, also said arm pump is never an issue anymore with it.
 

As for cost I’m pretty sure the dampener costs almost as much as the fork you’re installing it on. He was probably talking Australian dollars, not USD, so maybe a bit less, was trying to see if i could get my hands on one, but that price he mentioned put me off for the time being. 

What was the price ? 

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4/2/2024 7:18am

WRP is designing a Steering damper also, based on the CRF damper I think. 

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4/2/2024 7:29am
I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one...

I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one ever again, also said arm pump is never an issue anymore with it.
 

As for cost I’m pretty sure the dampener costs almost as much as the fork you’re installing it on. He was probably talking Australian dollars, not USD, so maybe a bit less, was trying to see if i could get my hands on one, but that price he mentioned put me off for the time being. 

What a dampener may look like

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Uncle Cliffy
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4/2/2024 8:01am
dolface wrote:
What a dampener may look like

What a dampener may look like

Tried to install one of these on my fork, but ended up taking it to a shop. This is a tough installation if you don’t know what you’re doing…

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I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one...

I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one ever again, also said arm pump is never an issue anymore with it.
 

As for cost I’m pretty sure the dampener costs almost as much as the fork you’re installing it on. He was probably talking Australian dollars, not USD, so maybe a bit less, was trying to see if i could get my hands on one, but that price he mentioned put me off for the time being. 

DAMPER

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I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one...

I was in Maydena in January and talked to someone who had one, he was raving about it. Said he’ll never ride a bike without one ever again, also said arm pump is never an issue anymore with it.
 

As for cost I’m pretty sure the dampener costs almost as much as the fork you’re installing it on. He was probably talking Australian dollars, not USD, so maybe a bit less, was trying to see if i could get my hands on one, but that price he mentioned put me off for the time being. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:

DAMPER

I appreciate your dedication to this cause.

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4/2/2024 10:36am
sspomer wrote:
not high level, but shimano dropped ESSA today - 8-speed budget drivetrain https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/shimano-introduces-essa-front-single-8-speed-drivetrain-active-entry-level-cyclists-affordable-price

not high level, but shimano dropped ESSA today - 8-speed budget drivetrain

https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/shimano-introduces-essa-fro…

530997-ESSA 1x8s Drivetrain-c77646-original-1710953147

Psss... Don't spill the beans on the wireless shifter version. Or the shifterless, auto-shifting one!

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4/2/2024 11:03am
Does anyone know what Yeti plans to do with switch infinity link? Do they evolve on it in an even more unique fashion? I hope so...

Does anyone know what Yeti plans to do with switch infinity link? Do they evolve on it in an even more unique fashion? I hope so personally. 
 

Also speaking of unique things, what ever came about Cannondale testing the 2 rear shock downhill bike? 

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that...

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that hasn’t been 100% true. With Pivot changing their whole line up to a new platform with some of the same DW attributes. Or Devinci changing all their bikes to all 4 bar horst link.
 

TL;DR: maybe, but I wouldn’t count on it. I definitely wouldn’t count on it being anything other than a DWish platform. 

junkbox wrote:
Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link Yeti isn't DW Link Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot...

Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link

Yeti isn't DW Link

Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot

Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot

Being designed by Dave Weagle does not make something a DW Link

Evil's D.E.L.T.A link stands for "Daves' Entirely Legitimate Travel Apparatus". Not a DW Link. 

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4/2/2024 11:13am
So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that...

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that hasn’t been 100% true. With Pivot changing their whole line up to a new platform with some of the same DW attributes. Or Devinci changing all their bikes to all 4 bar horst link.
 

TL;DR: maybe, but I wouldn’t count on it. I definitely wouldn’t count on it being anything other than a DWish platform. 

junkbox wrote:
Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link Yeti isn't DW Link Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot...

Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link

Yeti isn't DW Link

Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot

Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot

Being designed by Dave Weagle does not make something a DW Link

Evil's D.E.L.T.A link stands for "Daves' Entirely Legitimate Travel Apparatus". Not a DW Link. 

It's actually DAVE’S EXTRA LEGITIMATE TRAVEL APPARATUS

But yea, hence why I said it isn't a DW Link

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4/2/2024 11:46am
junkbox wrote:
Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link Yeti isn't DW Link Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot...

Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link

Yeti isn't DW Link

Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot

Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot

Being designed by Dave Weagle does not make something a DW Link

Evil's D.E.L.T.A link stands for "Daves' Entirely Legitimate Travel Apparatus". Not a DW Link. 

junkbox wrote:

It's actually DAVE’S EXTRA LEGITIMATE TRAVEL APPARATUS

But yea, hence why I said it isn't a DW Link

Ah right. Guess I could have googled before putting it here. Tongue

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4/2/2024 11:46am Edited Date/Time 4/2/2024 11:48am
So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that...

So Yeti is a DW (suspension link designed by Dave Weagle) historical DW bikes don’t really change such as Ibis, Yeti, Evil. But recent years that hasn’t been 100% true. With Pivot changing their whole line up to a new platform with some of the same DW attributes. Or Devinci changing all their bikes to all 4 bar horst link.
 

TL;DR: maybe, but I wouldn’t count on it. I definitely wouldn’t count on it being anything other than a DWish platform. 

junkbox wrote:
Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link Yeti isn't DW Link Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot...

Ibis and Pivot utilize DW Link

Yeti isn't DW Link

Evil isn't DW Link, they're linkage driven single pivot

Devinci were never DW Link, they're Split Pivot

Being designed by Dave Weagle does not make something a DW Link

Evil's D.E.L.T.A link stands for "Daves' Entirely Legitimate Travel Apparatus". Not a DW Link. 

It’s “The DW Link” but it is a type of DW link. 
 

I think it’s “Extra” not “Entirely.”

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Another Beautiful bike ruined by cable tourism, a real plague on this market.

Spindrift? a light ebike? let's see, real shame Propain decided to fuck everything up with Acros

image-20240402205125-2

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