Actually my Relay is the best handling bike I've ever ridden. The 430 watt battery is plenty for a several hour long ride. I don't care...
Actually my Relay is the best handling bike I've ever ridden. The 430 watt battery is plenty for a several hour long ride. I don't care one bit about the mediocre controller or the display, as all it does is give me an idea of how much juice I have and I usually notice it 2-5x over a several hour ride. It has more than enough power for my needs. The motor is reliable enough and they are rebuildable for a couple of hundred and last a few years anyways.
Electric motors are very old technology and don't have room for significant improvement. If my battery was made of air the bike would be 5#s lighter. In reality it's going to take 5-10 years to get even a 20% improvement in battery capacity/ weights.
E-bikes will for sure continue to improve. But with the introduction of the Fazua 60 motor and the new Bosch mid-power, proper e-bikes have in fact arrived and further improvements will be incremental. Geo, taken from bikes is already dialed and now the motor packages are as well.
I knew they stopped but it seemed so… sudden and unannounced. Like that was a frame that seemed to have some intent behind it. Noone said how it rode or if it did anything special. Just showed up and gone.
I thought the Jekyll came before that
I knew they stopped but it seemed so… sudden and unannounced. Like that was a frame that seemed to...
I thought the Jekyll came before that
I knew they stopped but it seemed so… sudden and unannounced. Like that was a frame that seemed to have some intent behind it. Noone said how it rode or if it did anything special. Just showed up and gone.
I believe that dual shock bike was just an experiment. Like stated above, the Jekyll was born from that. The DH bike was tested with dual shock and single shock.
I thought the Jekyll came before that
I knew they stopped but it seemed so… sudden and unannounced. Like that was a frame that seemed to...
I thought the Jekyll came before that
I knew they stopped but it seemed so… sudden and unannounced. Like that was a frame that seemed to have some intent behind it. Noone said how it rode or if it did anything special. Just showed up and gone.
I believe that dual shock bike was just an experiment. Like stated above, the Jekyll was born from that. The DH bike was tested with dual...
I believe that dual shock bike was just an experiment. Like stated above, the Jekyll was born from that. The DH bike was tested with dual shock and single shock.
Yup, I remember reading something from them along the lines of "we are always trying new stuff and we will take what we learned and apply it to future development".
So incredibly true. I’m all for the excitement of tinkering and bracketing to find out what works best for me but there is definitely a point...
So incredibly true. I’m all for the excitement of tinkering and bracketing to find out what works best for me but there is definitely a point where focusing on being a better rider will make you way faster than focusing on the mm’s of a frame or what new incremental changes are coming to X part.
What sucks is when the opinions of people who have never ridden the thing they have an opinion on drive trends. Just look at the Pinkbike comments or even this forum to find self proclaimed engineers who apparently know what’s best vs the company that invested thousands of R&D to make the final product that you’re immediately sh*tting on the day it’s released. Click on their profile of these “experts” and you’ll find that they’re most often 35-50 yr old dads who think that the bike is holding them back.
Puzzling is cool but people need to get outside more.
Just entertain the thought that maybe, just maybe, the bike is really holding the 35-50 y/o dads back, but in a different way than you might...
Just entertain the thought that maybe, just maybe, the bike is really holding the 35-50 y/o dads back, but in a different way than you might think. Most bikes are designed and developed for and with 25 +/- y/o, fit, incredibly skilled pro riders. That is not me and most others on here are not on that level as well. So that is why trying to emulate a setup that pro riders use and the bike industry sells as the cool new stuff to have might in reality be holding back the average rider. I am not saying this is always the case, there are good examples of improvements and products that the average Joe can benefit from. As you wrote, trying out what works best for you is the way to go. However, that also means that sometimes you can already see from the prodcut announcement that this product most likely will not be beneficial for the average rider, or, in the worst case, even be detrimental for their riding experience. So why not voice this opinion in the comments on forums that are meant to exchange opinions about mountain bike-related topics?
Road cycling has started to figure this out; most people won't be comfortable on a the bike a world tour rider rides so they've started offering...
Road cycling has started to figure this out; most people won't be comfortable on a the bike a world tour rider rides so they've started offering bikes for normal (i.e. not world tour) riders.
i remember back i think in 09 or 10 when rach and gee both won worlds, and Fox released a limited edition 40 that had the same tune they raced on. limited edition of like 200. sold out super quick, but a bunch of them quickly hit the resale market because they were "too stiff". well of course its too stiff, the average rider doesn't need the same tune that a WC racer needs.
transparent star trek aluminum would likely make internal routing easier to see.
but that's good commitment to an A1 gag. actually kind of cool to see...
transparent star trek aluminum would likely make internal routing easier to see.
but that's good commitment to an A1 gag. actually kind of cool to see. next year he should 3d print a transparent fork, that would be cool
Back in the day, I believe Manitou had a clear stanchion display fork to show the TPC damper function..
I’m sure fox have done plenty of transparent bits over the years. I am curious how they produce these? Is there some way for them to use the carbon tooling or do they really do soft injection moulding tooling just for these press camps?
I’m sure fox have done plenty of transparent bits over the years. I am curious how they produce these? Is there some way for them to...
I’m sure fox have done plenty of transparent bits over the years. I am curious how they produce these? Is there some way for them to use the carbon tooling or do they really do soft injection moulding tooling just for these press camps?
i doubt they'd risk messing with production tooling to make something that's a one off for a trade show display. given only a handful are made, they're probably just hand samples, nowadays probably 3d printed.
I’m pretty confident they’re not 3D printed. There are some amazing SLA machines but nothing I’ve seen that would give you that kind of optical clarity and surface finish. It’s possible they could be machined in 2 halves but that would require a hell of a lot of hand finishing which isn't easy on those internal surfaces. They really look like they’ve been tooled up and injection moulded.
You could probaby engineer windows into parts for the nerds that like to take things apart. Fox and Manitou have both done clear versions of forks but labeled them "not rideable". Was more something they could use to show off how the dampers and internals worked. Isn't one of them in the Marin bike museum?
I’m pretty confident they’re not 3D printed. There are some amazing SLA machines but nothing I’ve seen that would give you that kind of optical clarity...
I’m pretty confident they’re not 3D printed. There are some amazing SLA machines but nothing I’ve seen that would give you that kind of optical clarity and surface finish. It’s possible they could be machined in 2 halves but that would require a hell of a lot of hand finishing which isn't easy on those internal surfaces. They really look like they’ve been tooled up and injection moulded.
yea, i wasn't certain if you could get that kind of optical clarity directly from 3d printing. another option is 3d printing the mold and then just thermoforming a clear material.
I think you can heat treat and polish (flame polishing and mechanical polishing) transparent 3D prints to get clarity... I would not be surprised at all if the Dangerholm frame is actually 3D printed...
I’m on my second 1.2 and one of my mates is in his 4th.
Nothing to do with water ingress though!
He dirtjumps his at Chicksands.
The only water ingress issues I’ve seen recently have been connectors, switches and displays.
Most guys that have water ingress with motors are because they treat them like shit and do no tlc.
Don’t even begin to say the FAZUA is great lol.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/e-bike-talk-not-tech-rumor-derailme…
Gonna ask again. What happened to the Cannondale double shock downhill bike?
Jekyl is all that came from that.
Where have you been?
I thought the Jekyll came before that
I knew they stopped but it seemed so… sudden and unannounced. Like that was a frame that seemed to have some intent behind it. Noone said how it rode or if it did anything special. Just showed up and gone.
They changed Marketing managers and gave their budget to Josh bryceland
I believe that dual shock bike was just an experiment. Like stated above, the Jekyll was born from that. The DH bike was tested with dual shock and single shock.
Yup, I remember reading something from them along the lines of "we are always trying new stuff and we will take what we learned and apply it to future development".
it catapulted Jack Moirs career to the stratosphere! That's what happened. Imagine if that team happened and he broke another collarbone......
It would have to be the greatest silver lining to a shit sandwich situation I have ever seen in MTB. Stoked for him
Wow this seems super far along if it's already in production. Announce date coming soon?
Soon is all I know.
An update to the levo comming soon? Saw a guy ripping up Galbraith today with an all raw aluminum levo look alike.
i remember back i think in 09 or 10 when rach and gee both won worlds, and Fox released a limited edition 40 that had the same tune they raced on. limited edition of like 200. sold out super quick, but a bunch of them quickly hit the resale market because they were "too stiff". well of course its too stiff, the average rider doesn't need the same tune that a WC racer needs.
I know it's a joke but it's also legit pretty cool:
transparent star trek aluminum would likely make internal routing easier to see.
but that's good commitment to an A1 gag. actually kind of cool to see. next year he should 3d print a transparent fork, that would be cool
Back in the day, I believe Manitou had a clear stanchion display fork to show the TPC damper function..
I’m sure fox have done plenty of transparent bits over the years. I am curious how they produce these? Is there some way for them to use the carbon tooling or do they really do soft injection moulding tooling just for these press camps?
i swear i've seen it done on hubs too. more just thinking it'd be really cool to see more of the bike done that way.
i doubt they'd risk messing with production tooling to make something that's a one off for a trade show display. given only a handful are made, they're probably just hand samples, nowadays probably 3d printed.
I’m pretty confident they’re not 3D printed. There are some amazing SLA machines but nothing I’ve seen that would give you that kind of optical clarity and surface finish. It’s possible they could be machined in 2 halves but that would require a hell of a lot of hand finishing which isn't easy on those internal surfaces. They really look like they’ve been tooled up and injection moulded.
You could probaby engineer windows into parts for the nerds that like to take things apart. Fox and Manitou have both done clear versions of forks but labeled them "not rideable". Was more something they could use to show off how the dampers and internals worked. Isn't one of them in the Marin bike museum?
Um... This looks game changing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxiIubMTnxk
Looks like a massive step forward for fork/frame rigidity.
IDK, looks like it would only last for 3-4 minutes
<looks at the date> yup, checks out.
yea, i wasn't certain if you could get that kind of optical clarity directly from 3d printing. another option is 3d printing the mold and then just thermoforming a clear material.
hahahaha damnit well played, I cracked up
Went balls deep in the development of that.
I feel like it would be hard to quantify the improvement. And wouldn't that increase stroke as well?
I think you can heat treat and polish (flame polishing and mechanical polishing) transparent 3D prints to get clarity... I would not be surprised at all if the Dangerholm frame is actually 3D printed...